Employee Spotlight: Pam Keaton, Safety and HR at Cypress

Employee Spotlight: Pam Keaton, Safety and HR at Cypress
Released 09/23/2026
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Imagine waking up in your truck and discovering someone else's bumper attached to your trailer. What do you do? Apparently you call Pam Keaton. After nearly two decades at Cypress Truck Lines, that is probably not even the strangest problem Pam has been asked to solve. In Episode 38 of the Cypress Truck Lines Podcast, Marcus sits down with Pam Keaton, safety assistant and HR specialist, for an employee spotlight that is long overdue. Pam's name has come up multiple times on this podcast because drivers have shouted her out without being prompted. Today it is the show's turn to give her flowers. They cover safety incidents, HR questions, benefits, 401k enrollment, qualifying life events, and what actually happens when drivers call the safety and HR line at Cypress. Spoiler: somebody who has spent 20 years understanding drivers, what they need, and what success looks like for each of them individually is waiting for that call. Pam's single biggest message is simple. Call sooner, not later. Because the longer you wait the smaller her ability to help gets. New episodes drop every Wednesday. Subscribe now and find out who is in your corner.

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Imagine waking up in your truck, taking a look at your trailer, and discovering someone else's bumper attached to it. What do you do? Apparently you call Pam Keaton. And after nearly two decades at Cypress Truck Lines that is probably not even the strangest problem Pam has been asked to solve. In Episode 38 of the Cypress Truck Lines Podcast Marcus introduces listeners to the woman who has been quietly helping keep Cypress moving for nearly 20 years — handling safety incidents, HR questions, benefits, 401k enrollments, qualifying life events, and the kind of problems that never show up in a job description but show up every single day anyway. Marcus notes that Pam's name has come up organically on this podcast multiple times because drivers have shouted her out without being asked. Today it is the show's turn to return the favor.

EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS

Somebody decided a tractor trailer was fine for doing donuts: Marcus opens Episode 38 with a cold open that immediately signals this conversation is going to be different from any other safety and HR episode the show has done. A driver woke up to find a stranger's bumper attached to his trailer. Someone had apparently decided that a parking lot and a tractor trailer were an acceptable combination for a little late-night automotive creativity. Pam handled it. Marcus says this anecdote is a perfect introduction to what Pam's job actually looks like on a daily basis — unpredictable, occasionally absurd, always consequential, and always requiring someone with the patience and experience to work through it calmly.

Call sooner, not later: Pam's single most important message to every Cypress driver is this: call sooner not later. Whether it is a safety concern, a benefits question, a qualifying life event, or something that just does not feel right — the earlier Pam hears about it the more she can do about it. The longer a driver lets something sit the smaller her ability to help becomes. Marcus repeats this in the outro and says it is the most actionable thing any driver can take away from this episode. The phone number exists. Pam wants to hear from you. Use it before the problem grows.

500 drivers, 500 definitions of success: One of the most revealing moments of the episode is when Pam explains how she thinks about her job. She is not just solving individual problems. She is thinking about whether or not each driver is going to be successful at Cypress. And with roughly 500 drivers on the fleet that means 500 different definitions of success. More money for some. A newer truck for others. Getting home every weekend. Making it to retirement. Or simply waking up every day and enjoying the job. Pam knows which version of success each driver is working toward and she shapes how she helps them accordingly. Marcus says that level of individual attention inside a 500 driver fleet is not something most companies can claim.

The driver at the gate: Marcus describes one of the most memorable stories from the interview in the cold open and returns to it in the outro. A brand new Cypress driver was sitting at a gate convinced he could not get the truck through. He called Pam. She talked him through it. Slow down. Look at your space. You have been trained for this. You can do it. He made it through. Then he called her back just to say thank you. Marcus says that phone call back is the whole job in one moment. Pam was not just solving a logistical problem. She was building the confidence of a driver who needed to hear that someone believed in him.

Safety is not just there to enforce the rules: Pam said something in this interview that Marcus highlights in the outro as one of the most important reframes of what a safety department actually does. Safety at Cypress is not just there to enforce the rules. They are there because they want you to succeed. After spending nearly an hour with Pam, Marcus says he believes every word of it. The combination of Pam's genuine enthusiasm for helping drivers and her deep institutional knowledge of what the job actually demands makes her one of the most valuable people at Cypress for any driver who knows to pick up the phone.

The Hall of Fame left tackle: Marcus closes Episode 38 by returning to the football analogy from Episode 35. A successful football team needs every player doing their specific job with skill, confidence, and trust. The offensive tackle does not need to throw the football. He needs to stand in the way of the people trying to get to the quarterback. Pam is Cypress's Hall of Fame left tackle. Handling problems nobody else sees. Making sure everyone around her can do their job. And doing it for nearly 20 years without needing a spotlight. Until now.

Open enrollment is coming in December: Marcus closes by flagging that this episode is the first of two planned conversations with Pam. She will return during open enrollment in December for a dedicated episode about the benefits decisions every Cypress driver needs to make and the specific changes and adjustments available to them. Marcus says he is already looking forward to it and encourages every driver to treat this episode as the introduction so they know exactly who Pam is before the open enrollment episode drops.

From The Host

"I said it at the end and I want to say it again. Drivers have mentioned Pam's name on this podcast without being asked. Multiple times. That is the clearest thing I can tell you about who she is and how much she means to the people who drive for Cypress. And after spending almost an hour with her today I understand it completely. She genuinely understands drivers. Not just what they need from a paperwork standpoint but what success looks like for each person individually. Call sooner not later. That is her message. And I hope every driver listening to this right now writes that down somewhere they can see it because the version of Pam that can help you most is the Pam you call before the problem gets too big to solve easily. She is waiting for that call."— Marcus Bridges, Host

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1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:06,680 Imagine waking up in your truck. Taking a look at your trailer and discovering someone else's 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:13,200 bumper was attached to it. What do you do? Well, apparently you call Pam 3 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:18,959 Keaton, and after nearly two decades at Cypress, that's probably not even the strangest problem 4 00:00:18,959 --> 00:00:23,400 Pam has been asked to solve. Because here's something I learned during the conversation 5 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:29,760 you're about to hear when you call safety or HR. You might be thinking about an accident. Paperwork 6 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:35,919 benefits your 401 K or some problem you need fixed so that you can get back on the road. 7 00:00:36,480 --> 00:00:42,040 Pam's thinking about something bigger. She's thinking about whether or not you're successful 8 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:48,600 here. And with roughly 500 drivers at Cypress, that means 500 different definitions of 9 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:54,800 success. Maybe it's making more money. Maybe it's getting into a newer truck. Maybe it's getting 10 00:00:54,800 --> 00:01:00,520 home every weekend. Or maybe you're a brand new driver staring at a gate. You're convinced you 11 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:05,519 can't get that truck through, and you just need somebody on the other end of the phone to remind 12 00:01:05,519 --> 00:01:12,480 you you've been trained for this. Slow down. Look at your space. You can do it. And Pam has 13 00:01:12,519 --> 00:01:17,920 actually taken that call. She talked to driver through it. He made it through the gate, and then 14 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:24,519 he called her back just to say thank you. That is the person we're introducing you to today. And 15 00:01:24,519 --> 00:01:30,079 here's the crazy part. We didn't even have to ask management whether drivers appreciate Pam Keaton. 16 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:36,920 A driver told us that before we ever recorded an interview with her. Pam's name has come up 17 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:42,039 multiple times organically on this podcast, because somebody wanted to give her flowers for 18 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:48,080 taking care of the people behind the wheel. And today it's our turn. We're pulling back the 19 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:53,520 curtain on one of the people who's been quietly helping keep Cypress moving for nearly 20 years. 20 00:01:53,560 --> 00:02:00,489 We're talking safety. H.R. Benefits 401 KS. Open enrollment. What you can do to 21 00:02:00,529 --> 00:02:07,369 help Pam. Help you. Why? One driver woke up with a bumper attached to his trailer. And 22 00:02:07,369 --> 00:02:12,449 yes, apparently somebody wants decided a tractor trailer was an acceptable vehicle for doing 23 00:02:12,449 --> 00:02:18,209 donuts in a parking lot. But underneath all of those stories is something bigger. Pam told me 24 00:02:18,210 --> 00:02:24,289 that safety isn't just there to enforce the rules. They're there because they want you to succeed. 25 00:02:24,609 --> 00:02:31,609 And after talking to her for almost an hour, I believe every dang word of it. This is the Cypress 26 00:02:31,609 --> 00:02:34,529 Truck Lines podcast. Let's meet Pam Keaton. 27 00:02:39,490 --> 00:02:44,049 Countdown to the Cypress Truck Lines podcast starts now. 28 00:02:46,410 --> 00:02:53,289 Your number one professional flatbed podcast here to deliver stories, safety updates and company 29 00:02:53,289 --> 00:02:58,049 news directly to your ears. Let's get down to business. 30 00:03:04,369 --> 00:03:09,729 How's the weather out there? Cypress and sun belt. Welcome into another episode of the Cypress Truck 31 00:03:09,729 --> 00:03:15,449 Lions podcast. Thank you so much for being here with me today. Very excited about today's episode. 32 00:03:15,449 --> 00:03:22,089 And of course, gotta remind you about our website podcast.cypresstruck.com. That's our landing page. 33 00:03:22,089 --> 00:03:27,649 It's on the Cypress Truck website. You can go check out all the episodes that we have, who we're 34 00:03:27,649 --> 00:03:32,809 talking to, what we're talking about, and you can send me an email there as well. Podcast.cypresstruck.com 35 00:03:32,809 --> 00:03:38,609 And a little bit of homework today is just the same as it has been. We're still 36 00:03:38,649 --> 00:03:43,969 on this tele friend announcement okay. And after today's episode, I really think you're going to 37 00:03:44,009 --> 00:03:49,449 want to tell a friend, um, maybe it's somebody who's thinking about coming to work for Cypress, 38 00:03:49,450 --> 00:03:54,779 but just hasn't crossed the fence yet, and they're just there. They're on the fence about it. It looks 39 00:03:54,780 --> 00:04:01,260 good, but hey, maybe it's not. Point them at this podcast and specifically this episode, because we 40 00:04:01,260 --> 00:04:07,580 are doing an employee spotlight today. As I said in the cold open on Pam Keaton. Now, Pam is a 41 00:04:07,580 --> 00:04:14,259 safety assistant and HR specialist, and she has been with Cypress for nearly 20 years across two 42 00:04:14,259 --> 00:04:21,219 different stints. Uh, Pam knows the job like the back of her hand. She is a problem solver from the 43 00:04:21,219 --> 00:04:27,859 word go, and she understands drivers better than a lot of people I've talked to in the 44 00:04:27,859 --> 00:04:34,459 industry, uh, that do her job. I will say that. And I think Cypress is very unique in that aspect. 45 00:04:34,579 --> 00:04:39,259 I don't know that I've run up and I've worked with a lot of trucking fleets over the past four 46 00:04:39,260 --> 00:04:45,379 years. I do not know that I've run up on a company that has so many people that 47 00:04:45,379 --> 00:04:52,099 fundamentally and intimately understand the truck driver, who this person is, 48 00:04:52,099 --> 00:04:58,619 what their goals are, what their aspirations are, what means success to them. And when you're 49 00:04:58,620 --> 00:05:05,219 talking about 500 ish drivers, that can be a monumental lift. And 50 00:05:05,219 --> 00:05:11,419 Pam, well, she's been lifting it for 20 years with a smile on her face. And I don't want to give too 51 00:05:11,420 --> 00:05:16,459 much of this interview away. We're just going to jump into it here in just a couple of seconds. But 52 00:05:16,459 --> 00:05:21,379 I want you to look for what I took out of this interview. I'm going to give it to you before. 53 00:05:21,379 --> 00:05:26,298 Normally, this is something I would say after the interview. I want to go ahead and reinforce it 54 00:05:26,299 --> 00:05:33,059 before she ever says any of it. Pay attention to how much enthusiasm Pam has, 55 00:05:33,100 --> 00:05:39,779 not only for the job, but for helping other people do their job. She wants you to call. 56 00:05:39,820 --> 00:05:46,339 She wants to help you out. She wants to figure out the not only the problem, but the cause behind the 57 00:05:46,339 --> 00:05:53,139 problem and understand working through a solution with you. That is I 58 00:05:53,140 --> 00:05:58,579 mean, that that type of asset to have in your company is amazing when it's just one person. 59 00:05:58,620 --> 00:06:03,660 Knowing we've talked to Sherry enough on this podcast. Sherry to heart, of course. Director of 60 00:06:03,660 --> 00:06:10,139 safety for Cypress and Sun Belt. She's given the podcast so much time. We already had a suspicion 61 00:06:10,140 --> 00:06:16,739 that she had a really good team working beneath her. And what Pam offers here is, is a little bit 62 00:06:16,739 --> 00:06:23,499 of a peek behind that curtain. And wow, what a peek. I mean, I'll tell you right now, this is 63 00:06:23,579 --> 00:06:29,259 and I say this a lot because I get to because I'm the host of the podcast, and you just have to 64 00:06:29,260 --> 00:06:32,819 listen to the things that I'm going to say if you're going to tune in. And that is that this is 65 00:06:32,820 --> 00:06:38,060 another one of those that turned into like a favorite interview for me, a top ten or for sure, 66 00:06:38,099 --> 00:06:44,539 maybe even a top fiver. Uh, this was phenomenal. And I really want you to pay attention to the things 67 00:06:44,540 --> 00:06:50,669 that Pam says and listen to her, because she opened up for this interview. Um, and, and I 68 00:06:50,670 --> 00:06:57,189 couldn't have asked for any better time with Pam Keaton than what I got today. So she's going to be 69 00:06:57,189 --> 00:07:03,350 back on this podcast again, and we'll talk about that in the end of the show. But for now, let's do 70 00:07:03,350 --> 00:07:09,189 our employee spotlight with safety assistant and HR specialist Pam Keaton. 71 00:07:17,349 --> 00:07:22,548 All right. Welcome back into the Cypress Truck Lines podcast. Very excited here. Obviously I told 72 00:07:22,549 --> 00:07:27,629 you in the open it's an employee spotlight episode. So let's get our spotlighted employee in 73 00:07:27,630 --> 00:07:34,309 here. Please welcome to the show safety assistant and also HR professional Pam Keaton. Pam, thank you 74 00:07:34,309 --> 00:07:40,190 so much for being here today. Well, thank you for having me. I'm glad to be here. Well, you came very 75 00:07:40,190 --> 00:07:46,430 highly recommended to us for management. And I'd just like to say, uh, Randomly. I was recording with 76 00:07:46,430 --> 00:07:52,669 some drivers yesterday and you got a shout out from one, uh, Ariel Vanderpool on the show. I didn't 77 00:07:52,709 --> 00:07:58,309 tell him that I was recording with you today. It was just very organic, and I felt like maybe that 78 00:07:58,309 --> 00:08:03,670 would be a great way to start this out. He just gave you guys a shout out, uh, specifically saying 79 00:08:03,670 --> 00:08:08,150 that his pay was always right and it was always there. I don't know if there's a better thing you 80 00:08:08,150 --> 00:08:14,429 can do for a driver, Pam. Not at all. Pay is part of what you need to live. Absolutely. And I will say 81 00:08:14,430 --> 00:08:19,869 this as well. The safety department got a shout out from him as well. So, uh, Dave, I mean, it just 82 00:08:19,870 --> 00:08:24,749 sounds like you're. You're all aces out there, Pam. Yeah, there's, um, I think there's five of us in the 83 00:08:24,749 --> 00:08:29,909 department, and we all kind of work together as a group, which really helps. So we try to do our best 84 00:08:29,910 --> 00:08:35,429 for the drivers and for the company. Well, it seems like you do a great job based on what I've heard. 85 00:08:35,429 --> 00:08:40,950 So let's dig into it a little bit. How long have you actually been working for Cypress Pam. So I 86 00:08:40,950 --> 00:08:44,789 actually worked. This is my second time working for Cypress. Okay, so the first time I worked for 87 00:08:44,789 --> 00:08:49,069 Cypress, I was here for five years and I left, and then I came back. And this time, I think I've been 88 00:08:49,070 --> 00:08:55,869 here a little over 14 years now. Oh, wow. So we're working on two decades total. Yeah, it's been a 89 00:08:55,870 --> 00:09:02,548 long time. That is amazing. Yeah, well, that's what I hear. And, uh, I wonder, you know, I've had 90 00:09:02,549 --> 00:09:07,510 drivers on here before, Pam. That'll tell me they left Cypress because they, you know, they saw an 91 00:09:07,510 --> 00:09:12,509 advertisement. It was a real grass is greener on the other side of the fence situation. And lo and 92 00:09:12,510 --> 00:09:17,149 behold, after a few years, they're back. And they realized the grass wasn't greener on the other 93 00:09:17,150 --> 00:09:23,630 side. Was that a similar situation for you? Um, yeah, kind of. Sort of. Yes. What happened was when I took 94 00:09:23,630 --> 00:09:28,909 the other job, I thought it was going to be it was more of a sideways move, but I thought it offered 95 00:09:28,909 --> 00:09:34,509 more potential for me to move up. But when I got over there, there was quite a few issues. And then 96 00:09:34,510 --> 00:09:39,069 they ended up closing down the office here in Jacksonville because they were downsizing. Oh, no. 97 00:09:39,070 --> 00:09:43,760 And so then I was kind of like just hanging around for a bit. Trying to find a job. And lo and 98 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:47,999 behold, Carol. They were looking for someone for safety. And Carol remembers me from the first time 99 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:54,119 I was here. Carol is Mr. Penland sister. And so she just called me out of the blue and said, hey, Pam, 100 00:09:54,119 --> 00:09:58,959 guess what? We got a job for you here or something, but I was I was quick to take it. Yes, yes, yes. What 101 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:04,639 do you need me to come back? Yes. I'll be there tomorrow. Today? That's great. So they brought me 102 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:09,759 right back into the safety department. It was really good. Oh. That's awesome. So tell me, I mean, 103 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:15,559 after, you know, 20 total years with Cypress. Uh, what's changed over the years since you very 104 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:20,558 first started all the way to now, aside from maybe your position? Well, actually, you know, when I first 105 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:24,879 started here, I was working in the recruiting. I was actually a temporary employee. Then they hired 106 00:10:24,919 --> 00:10:29,439 me permanently as a recruiter. And then I slowly made my way over to safety. And I don't even 107 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:33,719 remember how that happened. But I know one day I was in recruiting, next day I was in safety. And I 108 00:10:33,719 --> 00:10:40,080 actually really like safety. Safety's busy 24 hours a day and it's a different every day. So it 109 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:45,799 keeps you busy and it keeps you going. And I think you learn as things change or as new 110 00:10:45,799 --> 00:10:50,679 opportunities come up. So that's what I like. I like safety and I like it. And I don't know why. 111 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:58,039 It's just part of. I just enjoy the the daily routine of safety. I love the changes 112 00:10:58,039 --> 00:11:03,639 and the way it's different every day. And I love the crew that I work with. Now, you mentioned Carol 113 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:09,959 in there, and I wonder who was kind of the person who taught you, uh, during your tenure? The, the sort 114 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:15,399 of the Cypress way. You know, we talk about the way that Cypress functions as a company, obviously a 115 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:21,519 very well-oiled machine with this many drivers, this many trailers, you got to have your head on 116 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:26,718 straight to keep everything from falling apart. Pam. So who was kind of your mentor to bring you 117 00:11:26,719 --> 00:11:31,919 along? Because I imagine that shift from recruiting to safety, while it was a positive one 118 00:11:31,919 --> 00:11:36,359 for you and you really liked it, those are two completely different realms. But we're selling 119 00:11:36,359 --> 00:11:41,209 we're selling popsicles in one, and we're making sure they stay frozen in the other one. It's a 120 00:11:41,210 --> 00:11:46,249 little bit different, so talk to me about that. So when I first moved to safety, there was a lady in 121 00:11:46,249 --> 00:11:50,810 here named Miss Viera. She no longer works here, but she's the one who brought me in and taught me 122 00:11:50,810 --> 00:11:56,488 straight from from the very beginning to where I am now. And so for the first five years, first five 123 00:11:56,489 --> 00:12:01,530 years I was here, I worked side by side with Mrs. Viera. And back then we did things a little bit 124 00:12:01,530 --> 00:12:06,009 different. I mean, it was almost 20, 25 years ago. So of course she did things different. And as the 125 00:12:06,010 --> 00:12:10,489 rules and regulations changed throughout the years, you have to grow and accommodate with those 126 00:12:10,490 --> 00:12:15,609 as well. So for the first five years, I was with her and she was kind of like my trainer. Then once 127 00:12:15,610 --> 00:12:20,569 I came back the second time, I came back under Sun Belt first. And I don't know if you know, but 128 00:12:20,570 --> 00:12:25,609 Cypress bought some belt and so I came back under Sun Belt first, and then the person I was working 129 00:12:25,609 --> 00:12:32,090 under was Mat Matthew Penland, and he was my safety director. And then once I integrated into 130 00:12:32,650 --> 00:12:38,169 Sunbelt and Cypress kind of kind of combined, and I was working for both sides. Then I was working 131 00:12:38,169 --> 00:12:42,689 under a couple different safety directors to where I am now, where I'm working under three. 132 00:12:43,570 --> 00:12:48,249 Perfect. So I would say I learned her a few different people along the way. Yeah, I would say 133 00:12:48,250 --> 00:12:54,209 so. You definitely got a roster of people that have been been there for you. And, uh, you know, 134 00:12:54,249 --> 00:13:01,049 Shari and Matt both have given so much time and effort to this show. And I imagine, Pam, that that's 135 00:13:01,050 --> 00:13:06,009 the same way they treat bringing an employee along and making sure that that employee not only 136 00:13:06,010 --> 00:13:11,449 has everything they need and understands the job, but understands it through the lens of Cypress and 137 00:13:11,450 --> 00:13:17,609 Sun Belt. Yeah, that's true. And and I will say this, I, I give Matt and Sherry flowers on this show 138 00:13:17,609 --> 00:13:24,369 anytime, any place. So I'm glad you brought them up because it's it's sort of kind of what I wanted 139 00:13:24,369 --> 00:13:30,129 to get to here is maybe when you started your second tenure, did you know, Pam, that this was 140 00:13:30,130 --> 00:13:35,409 going to be such a big chunk of your career? Did you know that second time with, uh, when you went 141 00:13:35,409 --> 00:13:42,049 back with Sunbelt? I'm staying here this time. And if so, why? You know, I really didn't know, but I 142 00:13:42,049 --> 00:13:46,569 think after you. You know, when I came back the second time, I had younger kids. And so my goal was 143 00:13:46,569 --> 00:13:51,449 to find something that was a little bit more stable. And so Cypress was one of those companies 144 00:13:51,450 --> 00:13:55,089 that were Sun Belt. Cypress was one of those companies that I knew would be around for a long 145 00:13:55,090 --> 00:14:01,009 time. So when I started here, I didn't I didn't make plans to stay here this long. But then, you 146 00:14:01,010 --> 00:14:06,089 know, as you come here and you work day to day, the years go by really, really quickly. You know, I like 147 00:14:06,090 --> 00:14:10,369 the environment in, in. I'm in I like the people that I work with. So I have a tendency just to 148 00:14:10,369 --> 00:14:17,210 stay. I learn new things, you know. Um, and I like what I do, so because I like what I do, I think I'm 149 00:14:17,210 --> 00:14:22,529 going to stay for a long time. I don't have any plans on leaving. Yeah, well, I know that you'd have 150 00:14:22,530 --> 00:14:27,369 some people very sad if you did decide to leave. Just based on how many times your name's been 151 00:14:27,369 --> 00:14:32,899 mentioned before we ever got you here on the podcast. So, you know, um. Yeah, that makes me happy, 152 00:14:32,940 --> 00:14:36,378 Pam, because, you know, I'm gonna come knocking on your door again. I can already tell you. We're only 153 00:14:36,379 --> 00:14:40,859 eight minutes in. This is going great. Uh, you're you're welcome back anytime. I normally wait for 154 00:14:40,859 --> 00:14:45,379 the end of the interview to say that, but I don't care where this one goes. Uh, I'm loving it so much. 155 00:14:45,379 --> 00:14:51,700 You have great energy for somebody working in safety and HR. Pam, is that something that you've 156 00:14:51,700 --> 00:14:56,939 always had inherently? Is that something that you strive to bring to work today? You seem like a 157 00:14:56,940 --> 00:15:03,179 very, uh, friendly and outgoing person. And I'll tell you, in my professional career, I've had both 158 00:15:03,179 --> 00:15:08,179 types of people and by HR department, I've never had a safety department as a podcaster, but I've 159 00:15:08,179 --> 00:15:14,140 been in HR once or twice in my life. And I get I've seen people like yourself that are very 160 00:15:14,140 --> 00:15:18,779 friendly and outgoing and approachable. I've also seen some people that you kind of walk in and 161 00:15:18,780 --> 00:15:23,659 it's like a dark cave, and they never smile and things never seem to be going well. So talk to me 162 00:15:23,659 --> 00:15:28,300 a little bit about just your attitude that you bring every day, Pam, because from my seat it's 163 00:15:28,300 --> 00:15:34,539 phenomenal. You know what I think? I think when a driver calls in and they have an issue and they 164 00:15:34,539 --> 00:15:40,739 get a person on the phone who's friendly. I think they're more likely to talk to you. And so I do 165 00:15:40,819 --> 00:15:45,539 try my best. Don't get me wrong. There are days when you're you can't be fully 247. But I do try 166 00:15:45,580 --> 00:15:50,899 to be friendly with the driver, and I try to listen and hear their side of the story before I 167 00:15:50,900 --> 00:15:55,979 make any opinions or any assumptions. Drivers. You have to hear the whole story from the beginning 168 00:15:56,020 --> 00:16:01,060 to the end, just to figure out exactly what happened or what their needs will be. And then I 169 00:16:01,060 --> 00:16:06,859 try to see if I can fulfill whatever they need. It can be anything. It can be minor questions to like, 170 00:16:06,859 --> 00:16:11,538 hey, who's the person in charge of the law department? Something I can easily answer, or it 171 00:16:11,539 --> 00:16:16,778 could be something really complicated. Hey Pam, I signed up for my 401. I don't know what I did 172 00:16:16,779 --> 00:16:21,340 wrong. I'm not getting deductions. I don't know how much money I'm supposed to have. How can you help 173 00:16:21,340 --> 00:16:25,539 me straighten and figure it out? And I think drivers like when people can give them answers. 174 00:16:25,539 --> 00:16:30,469 And if I can't give an answer, I try to get in contact with the person that can give them the 175 00:16:30,469 --> 00:16:36,069 answer or or connect them to that person that can give them an answer. And drivers like that, they 176 00:16:36,069 --> 00:16:40,629 like to have their problem solved and they like to have their questions answered. We do that makes 177 00:16:40,629 --> 00:16:45,830 a happy driver. Yeah, real no nonsense bunch, aren't they? It's it's pretty simple to keep them happy 178 00:16:45,830 --> 00:16:49,709 as long as you can help them out with when they have a problem. They're, uh. They're not gonna make 179 00:16:49,709 --> 00:16:55,149 any, uh, any bones in your day, are they? Yeah. No. And some drivers are. We got, you know, we got over 500 180 00:16:55,149 --> 00:17:00,589 drivers here. And in all the years I've been here, most of the drivers are just really nice people. 181 00:17:00,870 --> 00:17:05,469 Yeah. If you talk to them, you say, hey, how's your day going? They'll talk to you back and say, hey, 182 00:17:05,469 --> 00:17:09,029 how's your day going? You know, and they and they like that. They like to have a friendly 183 00:17:09,029 --> 00:17:14,550 conversation. If they're having a bad day and they get a friendly person, it kind of perks them up. Oh, 184 00:17:14,590 --> 00:17:19,229 it totally does. I know that does it for me. And I can feast off of that for the rest of the day, and 185 00:17:19,229 --> 00:17:23,869 I will. Pam, this is a you know, I'm out here on the West Coast, so I'm up a little early for this 186 00:17:23,870 --> 00:17:29,150 interview and I was happy to do it. but your attitude and your energy will literally keep me 187 00:17:29,150 --> 00:17:35,749 going through my Friday. So I totally understand that. I wonder. Um, you know, being here all this 188 00:17:35,750 --> 00:17:41,869 time and working directly with the drivers in the safety department as well as in HR. Uh, what are 189 00:17:41,869 --> 00:17:46,789 some of your strategies for building good relationships with these drivers? Uh, or is it 190 00:17:46,789 --> 00:17:51,228 something that you are out on the lot when you see them out there and you're trying to sort of, 191 00:17:51,269 --> 00:17:55,790 you know, break the ice, or is it something where once they call you, that's kind of where the 192 00:17:55,790 --> 00:18:00,429 relationship building starts? I think it's a combination of both. Like, I'll see people in a lot 193 00:18:00,470 --> 00:18:04,389 and I'll just say, hey, how's it going today? If you need anything, come up and see us. But then it's 194 00:18:04,389 --> 00:18:08,709 also when people call in and say, hey, I need this, or can you help me with that? I think that builds 195 00:18:08,709 --> 00:18:13,029 a relationship as well. So I think it's a combination of both. Drivers come in to the safety 196 00:18:13,029 --> 00:18:16,189 department. Some of them just want to shoot the breeze. And if you're friendly and you shoot the 197 00:18:16,189 --> 00:18:19,989 breeze back with them, they're good to go. Some of them come in to the safety department. They just 198 00:18:19,990 --> 00:18:23,349 want to get their answers, and they want to get out and get on the road and get back to making 199 00:18:23,349 --> 00:18:28,109 money. And so if you give them your answers as quick, concise as you can, then they can get back 200 00:18:28,110 --> 00:18:33,429 on the road very quickly as well. I think I don't know if I have a strategy for that. I just think I 201 00:18:33,430 --> 00:18:40,309 just try my best to give the drivers what they need. I mean, if I can't answer their questions or 202 00:18:40,310 --> 00:18:44,509 if it's a safety issue and I can solve their safety issue, they are happy. And if our drivers 203 00:18:44,510 --> 00:18:50,229 are happy, it makes it. If everybody happy makes the world go round, makes it a better place. Yeah. 204 00:18:50,270 --> 00:18:56,069 Well, one thing I think I can say without, uh, with, without a doubt is that you clearly understand 205 00:18:56,109 --> 00:19:01,749 truck drivers all these years with them. Um, you can just hear, you know, do they, do they have a 206 00:19:01,749 --> 00:19:05,709 problem? Do they want to talk or do they want to get back on the road? Those are simple things that 207 00:19:05,709 --> 00:19:10,949 not everybody understands about, uh, just the psyche of a truck driver and how they make their 208 00:19:10,949 --> 00:19:16,869 money and and what goes on during their day. Uh, with almost 20 years under your belt, you clearly 209 00:19:16,870 --> 00:19:22,119 understand that. In fact, I'd be willing to say, if we put you in a truck out there at CTC, You could 210 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:27,039 probably even back the thing up at this point. Bam! I probably could. You know, tricks are automatic 211 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:33,359 now too. So you keep behind the wheel and keep going. Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am. Yeah, there's a lot, I 212 00:19:33,360 --> 00:19:38,759 mean. Yeah. You know, I think there's some old time drivers you get to know and you get to know them 213 00:19:38,759 --> 00:19:42,599 really, really well. I mean, you know, their kids, you know, their wives. And we used to have this annual 214 00:19:42,599 --> 00:19:46,759 Christmas party every year. They would bring their wives and they would bring their kids. So you got 215 00:19:46,759 --> 00:19:50,559 to know the whole family. And those are some old time drivers. You talk to them every time you see 216 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:56,359 them. Then there's a new bunch of drivers that are coming in. And I mean, they are really not just new 217 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:01,559 to a company, they're new to the industry. So you want to make them feel comfortable. So you try to 218 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:06,400 be friendly with them as well. Hey, you have any problems? Come see us here in safety. Sometimes 219 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,559 there's some things we have to give it to somebody else to solve. But, you know, we try our 220 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:13,319 best to help you out as best we can. And I think that's what everybody in our department does. I 221 00:20:13,319 --> 00:20:18,040 think that's why we have such a good safety department. Yeah. And and just a stellar record 222 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:24,479 with the drivers too. They talk. So, uh, just so respectfully and with such adoration of their 223 00:20:24,479 --> 00:20:29,999 safety department because they all understand, Pam, how important the job that you guys, that you do 224 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:35,519 there in the safety department is without the work that you do. And, uh, you know, Sherry and the 225 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:41,239 entire team do, uh, this would be a very different company and a very different conversation, for 226 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:47,239 that matter. So, uh, you know, it's it I really we want to give you your flowers for that, too, 227 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:52,199 because, uh, it's something we hear about from almost every driver that comes on here. We do a 228 00:20:52,199 --> 00:20:57,040 segment we call our Final Thoughts segment here. And you'll get the chance to do this too, which is 229 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:02,040 just an opportunity to bring up anything that you want to before we wrap the interview and, uh, you 230 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:06,599 know, give shout outs if that's what you want to do. And the drivers are constantly shouting out 231 00:21:06,599 --> 00:21:13,560 safety. Um, and for good reason. And, and again, um, Sherry has given us so much. It's giving us so 232 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:19,718 much here. So you're just another shining example of how awesome the safety department is at Cypress 233 00:21:19,719 --> 00:21:24,799 and the type of people that it really takes to make it move forward. Pam, if everybody came to 234 00:21:24,839 --> 00:21:30,079 work with a with a dark cloud over their head every single day, I think this gets a lot tougher. 235 00:21:30,079 --> 00:21:35,999 And what I constantly see is just a fly on the wall at Cypress is I don't talk to anybody that's 236 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:41,999 upset, anybody that's mad or anybody that's having a bad day. It seems that everybody there, uh, really 237 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:47,879 loves their job. And that is very, very pertinent to running the company as, as efficiently as what 238 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:52,479 you you all do. Yeah. And I think too, though, is part of safety too, is we just don't help the 239 00:21:52,479 --> 00:21:57,479 drivers. There's also people in the background that we help as well. There are the mechanics and 240 00:21:57,519 --> 00:22:01,358 the office people as well that need help. And sometimes if we can help them with the safety 241 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,999 department, any issues they have will help those people as well, because that's what we're here for. 242 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:09,999 We represent the whole company, not just the drivers. And I think people appreciate that. Now, uh, 243 00:22:09,999 --> 00:22:13,959 just kind of a funny question here. If somebody gets a bad paper cut or puts a staple through 244 00:22:13,959 --> 00:22:17,769 their finger, or are they coming down to safety to talk to you. Pam, are they handling that one on 245 00:22:17,769 --> 00:22:22,649 their own? I think most people try to handle that one on their own, but if they feel that they need 246 00:22:22,650 --> 00:22:27,129 to come to safety, they come see and talk to us. Yeah. The doors. Are open. Plenty of ways we can 247 00:22:27,129 --> 00:22:30,289 handle that. We can put a Band-Aid on it. We hate. There's Band-Aids in the cabinet. We can get you 248 00:22:30,290 --> 00:22:34,129 set up on a Band-Aid. Or if you need to go seek a professional for that, we'd be more than happy to 249 00:22:34,130 --> 00:22:40,969 send you out for professional review. I love it, I love it. Well. Pam. Tell me 250 00:22:40,969 --> 00:22:45,849 this real quick. Uh, all these drivers you've seen come and go over the years. Uh, what is it that 251 00:22:45,850 --> 00:22:50,368 makes a memorable driver for you? Somebody that even when they're not with the company anymore, 252 00:22:50,369 --> 00:22:55,608 you remember? Hey, that was a fun employee to have on the on the team. Uh, anything like that pop up 253 00:22:55,609 --> 00:23:00,208 in your mind when I asked. You know, we got some. We had some old time drivers. And you know what 254 00:23:00,209 --> 00:23:06,249 sticks with me a lot is, you know, their handle. We had a driver call smiley, I mean, and he was he was 255 00:23:06,250 --> 00:23:12,729 happy all the time. I mean, we had, um. Oh, what's some of the names we had, Sarge? I mean, everybody 256 00:23:12,730 --> 00:23:18,728 has a different, different handle. There's mud fish that's here now. Yep. I bet mud fish. Yeah. I mean, 257 00:23:18,729 --> 00:23:22,489 and so those are the drivers I think, that have been here so long. You stick out, they stick out. 258 00:23:22,489 --> 00:23:27,049 And you just talk to them on a regular. And um, because they're such an old time driver, because 259 00:23:27,050 --> 00:23:31,609 they have a handle, you know, I try to remember their handle and I try to refer to them as their 260 00:23:31,610 --> 00:23:36,329 handles, and they're just great guys. They're just great old timers that just they loved working, too. 261 00:23:36,369 --> 00:23:40,568 And, you know, you a good driver is a driver that just loves working. So I like that too about them. 262 00:23:40,609 --> 00:23:46,089 Yeah. You know, uh, the thing that I love about CB handles, Pam, is that they're bestowed upon you. 263 00:23:46,089 --> 00:23:51,809 They're not necessarily selected by the person that goes by them. True. Um, I will tell you on 264 00:23:51,810 --> 00:23:58,688 another podcast, I had a trucker bestow upon me. Uh, the CB handle never shuts up. Um, 265 00:23:58,689 --> 00:24:04,889 and I think that's probably, you know, I think it's probably a good thing for what I do for a living, 266 00:24:04,890 --> 00:24:10,729 but, uh, at the same time, I did feel just a slight jab in there as a truck driver ever tried to 267 00:24:10,770 --> 00:24:15,660 bestow upon you a C.B. handle, Pam? No, not that I know. If it is, it's been behind my back and no 268 00:24:15,660 --> 00:24:22,179 one's told me about it. Okay. All right. Well, uh, for those of you out there thinking about it, uh, you 269 00:24:22,180 --> 00:24:27,219 should give her a name that is, uh, is in front of her back so that she knows it and make sure that 270 00:24:27,219 --> 00:24:31,939 it's not, uh, you know, derogatory or anything like that. You guys have shouted Pam out a lot on this 271 00:24:31,939 --> 00:24:37,540 podcast. I think she deserves a good, uh, CBA. Yeah, a good CB head. I'll be great. We could call you 272 00:24:37,579 --> 00:24:42,698 Spartan. You got that Michigan State shirt on right now. You could be Spartan. I this is from my 273 00:24:42,699 --> 00:24:47,900 aunt. My aunt was a super big Michigan State fan. I am actually a graduate of Western Michigan 274 00:24:47,900 --> 00:24:54,420 University. Wow. So you had quite the heartbreaker this weekend. Uh, this last weekend. Just so 275 00:24:54,420 --> 00:25:00,899 everybody knows, we're recording this on September 11th. Never forget. Um, but, uh, obviously Western 276 00:25:00,900 --> 00:25:06,379 Michigan. I will take too long to talk football in this, uh, employee spotlight, but. Wow. Uh, you guys 277 00:25:06,379 --> 00:25:10,819 got robbed last week, Pam. That's what they're saying. That's what everyone's saying. yes, yes, yes. 278 00:25:11,020 --> 00:25:17,818 We have a guy here. His name's Cecil. He hit me up last week and got all on me about how he lost. And 279 00:25:17,859 --> 00:25:23,299 I mean, what can you do? I think we were Matt champions last season was the last season. I think 280 00:25:23,300 --> 00:25:28,259 we were the Mac champions last season. So, you know, we can get robbed. We can. We can get robbed. We can 281 00:25:28,259 --> 00:25:33,259 come back. I'm feeling positive about that. Good, good. And is that Cecil Clarke that you're talking 282 00:25:33,259 --> 00:25:38,819 about. Yes yes. Yes okay. No fellow. Yes. He's a clerk. Yes, he's a clerk I was yes. Yeah. So unless he's a 283 00:25:38,819 --> 00:25:45,618 barrel, he's a clerk. Yeah. Fellow, uh, fellow Western Michigan grad. Huh? No I am yes. Cecil's not. 284 00:25:45,699 --> 00:25:51,419 Oh, he's not okay. He was just talking. He was just, uh, feeling for your team. I see, I get it. Nico is a 285 00:25:51,420 --> 00:25:56,379 big, uh, sports fan, so I think he likes all sports. Do you ever had that person that watches 286 00:25:56,379 --> 00:26:01,179 everything from fishing to tennis to football to baseball? I think the Cecil is one of those guy. He 287 00:26:01,180 --> 00:26:05,499 really likes sports, so it's good. It's good to chit chat with him. He's a good guy, I like him. Oh, 288 00:26:05,500 --> 00:26:08,739 he's he's knowledge. He's a really knowledgeable as a driver. There's another thing I like about 289 00:26:08,739 --> 00:26:14,299 them. If I have a question about how to tie down a load that I don't know about, I'll call up Cecil 290 00:26:14,300 --> 00:26:20,060 or Randy is another good guy to seesaw Randy. And I'm like, hey, can you help me with this one? You 291 00:26:20,060 --> 00:26:23,619 know, it's a new product. It's a new item we haven't tied down before, and so I need help, how 292 00:26:23,619 --> 00:26:28,779 to figure it out, and I love that I got people I can call up and get answers from. Absolutely. And 293 00:26:28,780 --> 00:26:32,979 I'll tell you, we've only been fortunate enough to have Cecil on here once. He was a little bit 294 00:26:32,979 --> 00:26:38,739 nervous, but he did a great job. And so I've got I've got him I've got him pegged for an episode 295 00:26:38,739 --> 00:26:43,819 in the future. We'll see if we can get back to him. But we've had Randy on the show a couple of times. 296 00:26:43,900 --> 00:26:50,179 Another name that all shout out is Ken over there at CTC. Oh yeah. The the knowledge base between 297 00:26:50,180 --> 00:26:54,619 just those three guys alone, they've probably forgotten more about trucking than most of us 298 00:26:54,619 --> 00:26:58,979 will ever know. Yeah. You know, it's one of those people that have been around and Randy and Cecil 299 00:26:58,979 --> 00:27:03,899 have been here forever. I mean, they were both here, I think, when I was here the first time. I think 300 00:27:03,900 --> 00:27:09,629 they were here. So, I mean, they've been here just as long as I have. Yeah. Probably driving. Maybe. 301 00:27:09,630 --> 00:27:14,149 Both of them were still driving. Randy, I don't think Randy was driving then. I think Cecil was, 302 00:27:14,149 --> 00:27:20,669 though. Cecil was a driver when I first came in, but Randy, I think was still. I don't think he was 303 00:27:20,670 --> 00:27:24,549 driving the first time I came. For some reason, I remember Randy still kind of being the all around 304 00:27:24,550 --> 00:27:28,749 guy. Randy is like the all around guy. You can ask him for anything. And Randy, I'll get you some 305 00:27:28,749 --> 00:27:32,630 answers if you need a truck. Randy is going to get you a truck. You need a hat. Randy is going to get 306 00:27:32,630 --> 00:27:39,629 you a hat. You need. You need something. Randy's got ya. You need a ride somewhere? Randy's got you. Yeah. 307 00:27:39,670 --> 00:27:45,389 He's got he's a good guy. He's great. He's great. And, uh, and and, like you said, so knowledgeable. And 308 00:27:45,389 --> 00:27:51,469 I think that really is sort of a peek behind the curtain. Pam, you guys there at Cypress and Sunbelt? 309 00:27:51,469 --> 00:27:58,270 Both. Um, you you very much honor the people that have put in the time. And, uh, guys like Cecil and 310 00:27:58,270 --> 00:28:03,869 Randy, who they know this company like the back of their hand because they've been with it for so 311 00:28:03,870 --> 00:28:10,188 long. And you you don't. Uh, it's it's not like you put those guys up on a pedestal, but it seems like 312 00:28:10,189 --> 00:28:16,990 everybody at the company understands who those few people are within the company. And, uh, I 313 00:28:16,990 --> 00:28:23,709 just having such a big company, 500 drivers is is no small, uh, fleet. And 314 00:28:23,710 --> 00:28:28,829 having such a big company and everybody still getting along so well is kind of constantly 315 00:28:28,830 --> 00:28:34,389 baffled me. I don't understand how you do it. Until I got to Jacksonville and started meeting people 316 00:28:34,390 --> 00:28:39,430 and started having conversations, and then it was like, well, I could work here. I mean, these people 317 00:28:39,430 --> 00:28:45,510 are great, and it really is. I, I feel like, um, do you feel as somebody that's been there for 20 318 00:28:45,510 --> 00:28:50,789 years, like yourself? You're you're sort of in that same group of people, like you've been here long 319 00:28:50,789 --> 00:28:56,149 enough, you know, this, like the back of your hand. Um, do you take a lot of pride in, in bringing the 320 00:28:56,150 --> 00:29:02,920 next crop of Cypress employees along in that culture? Pam I guess I 321 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:07,639 do. I mean, yeah, I guess you could say we do. We take pride in our drivers and even the office 322 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:12,199 people that we bring in a new crew. It's always good to teach them, right. So they'll do a good job 323 00:29:12,199 --> 00:29:17,519 and do it this way. And I think we do. I think we all take pride if we're in that, if we work with 324 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:23,519 that person, we all take pride of making sure that person adjusts to the job and like the job and 325 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:30,080 want to remain here. And I think we all take pride in doing that. We just want to make we want that. 326 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:35,080 We want them to like Cypress the way we like Cypress. Right? Right. So you can't force that. You 327 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:39,959 do? Yeah. So the best thing you can do is teach them. And because some people, if you don't teach 328 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,799 them right, they'll feel lost in the beginning. So you want to make sure they have all the knowledge 329 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,919 that they need to be able to do their job correctly. If you give them all that knowledge, 330 00:29:47,959 --> 00:29:51,639 they'll do their job correctly and they'll become stellar drivers or stellar office people. And 331 00:29:51,639 --> 00:29:57,399 that's what we like. Well put, well put. I want to dig in a little bit to the day to day. You talked 332 00:29:57,399 --> 00:30:03,319 about kind of the challenge everything being different in safety and HR alike. Is there 333 00:30:03,319 --> 00:30:10,079 anything that you would consider a typical day, like a typical Monday? Or is this is it just when 334 00:30:10,079 --> 00:30:14,159 you show up, whatever's waiting for you is going to be different than it was the day before, 335 00:30:14,159 --> 00:30:19,680 because that's sort of the nature of the job, Pam. Uh, how would you quantify that? Well, there are 336 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:24,159 some things you're going to have to do every day, like I'm the Der, which is, um, the designated 337 00:30:24,159 --> 00:30:30,279 employee rep for drug screens. So for our drug program here, that's a daily thing. That's what I'm 338 00:30:30,279 --> 00:30:34,119 going to I'm going to do that daily. I'm going to make sure we're doing our randoms. I'm going to 339 00:30:34,119 --> 00:30:37,800 make sure everybody gets the results they need. And I'm going to make sure everybody goes for 340 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:44,199 their drug screens. That's part of my daily job. Um, there are some things that I have to do weekly. I 341 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,599 terminate all the employees out. That's something I do every week. And so there are some things that 342 00:30:48,599 --> 00:30:51,599 are daily and there are some things are weekly. And then there's a lot of things to just bring up 343 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:56,559 on you every day. Accidents come in. You never know when the accidents or incidents going to come in. 344 00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:00,639 So you just got to be prepared for that. So you always take that into account of your day. You 345 00:31:00,639 --> 00:31:04,879 never know where you're going to get that oddball request for something. I'm like, I've never done 346 00:31:04,879 --> 00:31:10,519 that before. Let me find out how I can get that for you. So you get those calls from a driver, a 347 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:15,520 new driver, generally, and you go, oh, I've never done that. But you figure it out and you get it 348 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:22,399 done for the driver and he's happy. I mean, it has this repetition in some points of it, you know, 349 00:31:22,439 --> 00:31:26,359 and then every day is different because of the accidents, because of the people that come in, 350 00:31:26,359 --> 00:31:30,760 because of the new people that come in. I mean, you just never know what's going to happen. So it 351 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:35,079 keeps it, it keeps it active and it keeps it interesting. Right? Right. And that's what I like 352 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:39,839 about the job. That's kind of what I wanted to get back to is that's what you told me earlier. And, 353 00:31:39,839 --> 00:31:45,039 and that's you can tell that that's something that keeps you exhilarated. It's got to be tough. 354 00:31:45,079 --> 00:31:50,039 You know, I, I look at people, I have a friend that does data entry, and that poor woman shows up at 355 00:31:50,039 --> 00:31:56,529 the computer every day and punches in numbers for eight hours and clocks off, and it's right for her. 356 00:31:56,570 --> 00:32:03,009 She's really good at it and it's good for her. But it would drive me insane. And I need something 357 00:32:03,009 --> 00:32:06,488 like you. You know, these interviews are always different. I've never done the same interview 358 00:32:06,489 --> 00:32:12,969 twice, even when I've lost one and had to rerecord one. It's always different. And, uh, that's that's an 359 00:32:12,969 --> 00:32:17,969 aspect of your job that I wanted to drill into a little bit, and, and you did a great job 360 00:32:17,969 --> 00:32:24,410 representing it there. Pam, I appreciate that. Um, how about this? I kind of want to, uh, look at at 361 00:32:24,410 --> 00:32:30,050 your job and sort of you working with drivers and, and let the drivers peek behind the curtain a 362 00:32:30,050 --> 00:32:34,888 little bit, because we talk a lot about how you can help their day, and you can make their day 363 00:32:34,889 --> 00:32:39,049 easier when they call with an issue and you get it solved, you get them back out on the road. 364 00:32:39,050 --> 00:32:45,450 Whatever the case may be, that's really big in a driver's day. Um, but tell me, what are some of the 365 00:32:45,450 --> 00:32:52,289 most common things that you hear from drivers about? Is it mostly safety? Mostly HR stuff? What 366 00:32:52,289 --> 00:32:57,209 is the call that you're getting the most frequently right now. Pam, I think, um, because I'm 367 00:32:57,210 --> 00:33:03,409 the benefits rep, I think I get a lot of call on benefits benefits. And for one of our daily calls 368 00:33:03,409 --> 00:33:10,409 that I receive because I think even though we send out a packet and I think it's written well, 369 00:33:10,449 --> 00:33:15,689 I think sometimes drivers just don't understand it. Mhm. And so when they call in I really I take 370 00:33:15,689 --> 00:33:19,929 the time and I explain it to them so that they understand what they're signing up for. Because 371 00:33:19,929 --> 00:33:23,529 health insurance can be a scary subject, especially some of the young people that have 372 00:33:23,529 --> 00:33:30,089 never had it before. Yeah. Health benefits can be a scary subject. And then there's wives and children 373 00:33:30,089 --> 00:33:34,448 that are involved in that. And so I will speak to husbands and wives and, you know, especially if the 374 00:33:34,449 --> 00:33:38,889 husband gives me, um, authority, I'll speak to their wife as well, and I'll explain the whole process 375 00:33:38,889 --> 00:33:43,010 to them and try to get them to make sure they sign up for what they want. Because if you sign up 376 00:33:43,010 --> 00:33:47,569 for the health and benefits, you're stuck with it until open enrollment, which is in December. So you 377 00:33:47,569 --> 00:33:52,009 want to make sure you sign up for the first to the plan you want first. So because you can't make 378 00:33:52,010 --> 00:33:58,539 any changes. Then I think I get a call about 401 K on a regular, and I think 401 is super 379 00:33:58,540 --> 00:34:03,140 confusing to people. Yep. I mean, it's pretty simple, but but I've been doing it for so long, so it's 380 00:34:03,140 --> 00:34:08,340 simple to me. But as a young person who's never done it before, as a new driver or even an old 381 00:34:08,379 --> 00:34:13,979 time driver who's been here ten years and has never taken the time to sign up for it, it's just 382 00:34:13,979 --> 00:34:18,699 still a mouthful to try to explain it all to him. They don't understand the matching. They don't 383 00:34:18,699 --> 00:34:22,939 understand. Well, how is this? How long do I have to leave that money in there? Or how much money am I 384 00:34:22,979 --> 00:34:28,299 going to make? And it's just a big process to explain it to them. But I think once I explain it 385 00:34:28,299 --> 00:34:31,379 to them, I think they understand it pretty well. And I always tell the driver, hey, if you don't 386 00:34:31,379 --> 00:34:35,060 understand it or you have problems with it, give me a call back and we can we can walk through the 387 00:34:35,060 --> 00:34:41,059 steps again. We can go from there. I'm really glad that you touched on open enrollment there, because 388 00:34:41,060 --> 00:34:46,459 I know that sometimes when you're just listening to me out there, all the listeners, all the drivers, 389 00:34:46,460 --> 00:34:51,100 whoever it is that's listening, you probably listen to me and think, that guy seems a little 390 00:34:51,139 --> 00:34:56,300 bit scatterbrained and I would totally understand that. But there is a reason that we decided to 391 00:34:56,300 --> 00:35:01,179 have this episode at this point in time. That's because we wanted to introduce the audience to 392 00:35:01,219 --> 00:35:07,339 Pam on the podcast, so that she can come back during open enrollment and talk about some of the 393 00:35:07,340 --> 00:35:13,060 things that you guys need to know. Uh, because, Pam, that open enrollment time, I'm sure is one of the 394 00:35:13,060 --> 00:35:19,059 craziest times for you. Uh, everybody's coming in with their their changes or wanting to stay the 395 00:35:19,060 --> 00:35:24,779 same or calling you and saying, hey, do I even need to do anything this year? I mean, yeah, walk me 396 00:35:24,779 --> 00:35:29,499 through open enrollment a little bit. Just, uh, of course we're gonna do a segment on the show, but 397 00:35:29,499 --> 00:35:35,419 how crazy is that? Time for you in your position, Pam. It is a busy time, so open enrollment usually 398 00:35:35,419 --> 00:35:39,259 starts at the beginning of December, and we give them a whole month, and then it takes effect on 399 00:35:39,260 --> 00:35:44,419 January 1st. So open enrollment is a busy product. It's one of the busiest parts is making sure 400 00:35:44,419 --> 00:35:48,979 everybody gets the information they need. So we got to make sure we get packets out to over 800 401 00:35:48,979 --> 00:35:52,019 people because it not only does open a room and affect the drivers, it affects everybody in the 402 00:35:52,019 --> 00:35:57,019 office. Everybody has a chance to enroll or make any type of changes during open enrollment. So 403 00:35:57,019 --> 00:36:03,059 everybody has to get a packet. So we email I mean, we send them to Mall of Terminals. I got printed 404 00:36:03,060 --> 00:36:08,259 copies. I mean there's anything you need. I mean, I can I can drop you one in the mail if you don't 405 00:36:08,459 --> 00:36:12,620 want to do it on the email or online or anything. I could drop an old school in the mail for you. 406 00:36:12,620 --> 00:36:17,739 And then another thing is we want to make sure we get them back in time. So you want to try to get 407 00:36:17,739 --> 00:36:22,099 them back before the end of December. And so that's where I think it comes into a problem with 408 00:36:22,100 --> 00:36:28,259 the driver because they go, oh, I'm never home. I don't do this. I don't do that. Oh I forgot, you 409 00:36:28,259 --> 00:36:33,619 know. So I think that's part of the craziness as well. And then just making sure they understand 410 00:36:33,620 --> 00:36:38,139 what the benefits are. Sure you have to understand what you're rolling in. And so we get a lot of 411 00:36:38,139 --> 00:36:44,059 calls because we offer four plans to drivers. And so it just takes a lot of explaining those 412 00:36:44,060 --> 00:36:47,908 different core plans for drivers to understand. And so I think that's one of our busiest points 413 00:36:47,909 --> 00:36:52,469 in open enrollment, is just explaining it over and over and over again. Hey, this is what we offer. 414 00:36:52,510 --> 00:36:57,469 This is what I needed back. And this is when it takes effect. And I have to stress to them that 415 00:36:57,469 --> 00:37:04,109 once you take that and make that selection, you can't change it for a year. Right. And so I try to 416 00:37:04,110 --> 00:37:09,589 really, really stress that. And so we offer basic like health, dental, vision and life insurance. But 417 00:37:09,590 --> 00:37:14,029 then we also have a counter company called People Lease who offers long term disability and flex 418 00:37:14,030 --> 00:37:18,989 spending. So you have to explain those as well so they know the difference between what our HSA is 419 00:37:18,989 --> 00:37:24,549 and what our FSA is. So it takes a little bit of explanation, but it's good. Yeah. The the first time 420 00:37:24,550 --> 00:37:30,509 somebody tried to explain a flex spending account to me, uh, Pam, I got a headache and I took a nap. I 421 00:37:30,509 --> 00:37:37,229 didn't even I got out of it because. Yeah, we have drivers, a sign up for FSA thinking it's the HSA, 422 00:37:37,230 --> 00:37:42,509 and then you got to go, oh, no, that's not the same thing. Yeah. So you gotta try to get get the 423 00:37:42,509 --> 00:37:49,429 paperwork and rework it all. So Yeah. Yeah. Well, having somebody is as experienced as yourself 424 00:37:49,429 --> 00:37:55,790 is a huge asset, Pam. And, uh, I can tell that you are dedicated and you want the drivers to 425 00:37:55,790 --> 00:37:59,509 understand this. This isn't something you do because you have to. It's something that you do 426 00:37:59,510 --> 00:38:05,350 because you want to, and you want the drivers to have the best coverage and everything. Um, so the 427 00:38:05,350 --> 00:38:12,349 next kind of segment here that I want to get to is I titled it Help Pam help you. Uh, now 428 00:38:12,550 --> 00:38:17,949 I want to set this up by saying, I'm not asking Pam to air her grievances here. What we want to do 429 00:38:17,950 --> 00:38:23,589 is try to save everybody some time with this next bank of questions. And, Pam, basically, if I'm a 430 00:38:23,589 --> 00:38:29,869 Cypress driver and I need something from you, what can I do that makes it easier to get the answer 431 00:38:29,870 --> 00:38:36,188 that I need? What's the number one thing a driver can have ready to go before they call you? 432 00:38:36,629 --> 00:38:43,549 I would say that a driver needs to have. First of all, they need to figure out what they're 433 00:38:43,550 --> 00:38:48,750 really asking. They'll come in and they'll ask for one thing, but they really want something else. So 434 00:38:48,750 --> 00:38:53,949 try to figure out what you're really asking for. And then second, have all the information 435 00:38:53,949 --> 00:39:00,709 available. If you are signing up for health insurance and you have four kids and a wife 436 00:39:00,709 --> 00:39:05,109 and you don't have all the information, it's hard to get you signed up, right to have all your 437 00:39:05,110 --> 00:39:09,988 information. Make sure everything's filled out and make sure everything's signed and dated, because, 438 00:39:09,989 --> 00:39:15,709 you know, you have to have signatures to get people enrolled. And I think sometimes drivers. I 439 00:39:15,709 --> 00:39:19,549 try my best to work with it. Hey, I got this. I'll take it over the phone, but I need you to come see 440 00:39:19,590 --> 00:39:25,229 me next week. I need you to sign and date it to verify that this is what you said. Okay. So, I mean, 441 00:39:25,230 --> 00:39:31,989 so having everything all your ducks in a row as best you can before you call would be 442 00:39:31,989 --> 00:39:36,229 great. Or before you show up would be great. But even if you don't have them in a row, we'll do our 443 00:39:36,229 --> 00:39:42,279 best to help you get them in a row once you get here. Right? That's how we can. Do You talk about 444 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,519 how sometimes they're asking for one thing and asking for something else. Is that kind of like 445 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:50,839 when I really. I'm asking my wife where she wants to go to dinner, and I'm trying to steer her 446 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:55,959 towards pizza without her knowing it. You know, like I'm saying no to everything. I'm just waiting 447 00:39:55,959 --> 00:40:00,639 for her to mention a pizza parlor. Uh, you don't want to do that. That's not the right approach. 448 00:40:00,639 --> 00:40:05,560 Take the direct approach. Give. Give you the information up front. Let you know what it is 449 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:10,399 exactly that they're looking for. And that makes the job a lot easier on your end is kind of what 450 00:40:10,399 --> 00:40:16,958 I'm hearing here. Yeah, exactly. Because sometimes I have to ask 15 questions to draw out what you're 451 00:40:16,959 --> 00:40:20,879 asking for. So if you kind of, you know, if you already know where you're asking for it to be 452 00:40:20,879 --> 00:40:27,080 helpful, but once again, if you don't, we can work through it and look at you. All set. For sure. Uh, 453 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:31,839 something that kind of touches the open enrollment part here, uh, a little bit. And I know 454 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,959 it's very important that we let you guys know this isn't until December. It's not open 455 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:40,799 enrollment right now. I don't want to create a flood of phone calls and emails for Pam after she 456 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:46,918 was so gracious with her time here. Uh, but there are these things that they call a life changing 457 00:40:46,919 --> 00:40:52,678 events, right? Uh, or qualifying events? Yes. So if something changes in a driver's life, like their 458 00:40:52,679 --> 00:40:59,519 address, a family situation, beneficiary's insurance information, or whatever applies. Pam, 459 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:05,840 what does HR need to need the driver to communicate to them, uh, so that they can take the 460 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,959 appropriate steps and make the changes that might be needed? Well, first of all, our driver has to 461 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:14,679 realize that you only have 30 days to make those changes if you have a life changing event. I think 462 00:41:14,679 --> 00:41:19,519 a lot of drivers don't know that, because they'll call me four months later and say, hey, my wife 463 00:41:19,519 --> 00:41:24,399 lost her coverage four months ago, can I add her to my plan? And unfortunately, I can't add you 464 00:41:24,399 --> 00:41:28,359 after four months. You have to make that change within 30 days and then you have to have the 465 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:33,599 information, the proper information. If your wife lost coverage and you want to add her, I need the 466 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:38,090 paperwork that shows when she lost coverage. So you have to get that information from a previous 467 00:41:38,090 --> 00:41:42,849 company or from a previous insurance company. And if you get married, I need a copy of the marriage 468 00:41:42,850 --> 00:41:48,009 certificate. If you have a birth, I need a copy of the birth certificate. Just paperwork that shows 469 00:41:48,010 --> 00:41:53,209 that the life change did actually happen, and I'll get you all set and get you into our system. It's 470 00:41:53,209 --> 00:41:58,649 pretty simple, right? Once you have all of the correct documentation, I can get you all set. And I, 471 00:41:58,689 --> 00:42:03,089 you know, you have 30 days to get it done. So as soon as you know, you need to make that change. 472 00:42:03,129 --> 00:42:07,529 Give me a call. Call me right away. Even if you don't have all the documentation, you may have 473 00:42:07,529 --> 00:42:14,169 some questions about it. And I can direct you into what I need to make that change for you. It's it 474 00:42:14,209 --> 00:42:18,569 that's so interesting. I mean, I can say that I've learned something on every single episode of the 475 00:42:18,570 --> 00:42:23,209 Cypress Truck Lines podcast. And today, what I learned is that you only have 30 days for a 476 00:42:23,209 --> 00:42:29,569 qualifying event. I had no idea. Fortunately, I've never had one that didn't sort of align with an 477 00:42:29,570 --> 00:42:34,529 open enrollment, so I was able to make the change. It was very easy, but wow, that's a really 478 00:42:34,610 --> 00:42:40,049 important part of it, because it's the only time that you can make changes during the year is if 479 00:42:40,049 --> 00:42:45,089 one of these qualifying events happen, and even then you've only got a month to get it done. So 480 00:42:45,090 --> 00:42:51,689 you kind of got to be Johnny on the spot with this stuff. Correct? Correct. Wow. So okay. Yeah. Good 481 00:42:51,689 --> 00:42:57,209 to know. That's great stuff. Juicy stuff. Drivers, if you're not sinking your teeth into this one yet, I 482 00:42:57,209 --> 00:43:01,648 don't know what to give you other than a nice fresh T-Bone steak. I mean, we've got great info 483 00:43:01,649 --> 00:43:07,409 from Pam here already today. Um, let me ask you this sort of a general question. What makes a 484 00:43:07,409 --> 00:43:12,969 driver really good to work with from your side of the building? What might have Cherie or somebody 485 00:43:12,969 --> 00:43:18,569 else coming up to you and saying, man, that guy or that gal, they're just great. Um, is there anything 486 00:43:18,569 --> 00:43:24,329 like that that comes to mind when I ask? I think a great driver on our end is just somebody who 487 00:43:24,329 --> 00:43:29,329 follows the rules. I mean, there's rules for everything. There's fmcsa rules you have to follow. 488 00:43:29,370 --> 00:43:34,529 Then there's company rules you have to follow. I think a great driver follows the rules and is 489 00:43:34,530 --> 00:43:39,089 still able to make his deliveries. Because we give you that, we follow rules. We have rules, but you 490 00:43:39,090 --> 00:43:43,569 still should be able to make all your deliveries. You still should be able to get your truck and 491 00:43:43,570 --> 00:43:48,449 get out and get home on the weekend. I think that's a great driver. I think a great driver is a 492 00:43:48,449 --> 00:43:54,929 driver who has an issue and calls safety and doesn't let it fester for 2 to 3 months and then 493 00:43:54,929 --> 00:43:59,489 cause safety, because sometimes if you call us six months later, I don't know if I can help you for 494 00:43:59,490 --> 00:44:03,729 something that happened six months ago. I mean, I can try my best to get it solved, but it happened 495 00:44:03,730 --> 00:44:08,729 six months ago. So if you have an issue, call us right away and let us know. I mean, we'll do our 496 00:44:08,730 --> 00:44:13,569 best to work with you and try to get the situation solved. But I mean, just being a great 497 00:44:13,570 --> 00:44:19,409 driver. Follow the rules. Get to know your truck, get to know your routes, get to know your driver 498 00:44:19,409 --> 00:44:25,929 manager and get to know the company. And you'll do just fine. Yeah, you can tell, uh, you know, just 499 00:44:25,929 --> 00:44:30,809 recording yesterday I had, uh, like I said, I had Ariel Vanderpool on with his trainer, Michael 500 00:44:30,820 --> 00:44:37,699 Shealy and his mentor Chris Sandifer. Oh, and it was such a I was such an 501 00:44:37,699 --> 00:44:43,579 amazing conversation, Pam, because they're they're talking about this, this guy that's already turned 502 00:44:43,580 --> 00:44:49,019 what they taught him into a very successful career at Cypress, and the way they talked about 503 00:44:49,020 --> 00:44:53,299 each other and the way that they you could tell that they just helped one another and they were 504 00:44:53,300 --> 00:44:59,379 jabbing one another. It was so cool to see that sort of culture and and knowing that you guys 505 00:44:59,379 --> 00:45:05,019 have that inside the terminal as well. Like, what if you could boil this entire conversation down 506 00:45:05,020 --> 00:45:10,819 to one thing? I think I might say that you want the drivers to call, you want to help. That's the 507 00:45:10,820 --> 00:45:17,779 simplest way we can summarize this whole this whole conversation. Be it safety, be it HR. You are. 508 00:45:17,779 --> 00:45:22,059 Saying. You have to call dispatch, call your dispatcher. Right? Call to call the department, call 509 00:45:22,060 --> 00:45:26,339 the shop. You have flat tire. Call the shop. Call the correct department. That's going to be able to 510 00:45:26,339 --> 00:45:33,059 help you, and you'll get certain you'll get things done faster. Absolutely. Now, in almost 20 years. 511 00:45:33,060 --> 00:45:38,459 Here. Pam, I know that you've taken more phone calls than anyone can shake a stick at, but I 512 00:45:38,460 --> 00:45:45,019 wouldn't be doing my job if I didn't ask you. Over those 20 years, what's the craziest call you've 513 00:45:45,020 --> 00:45:51,179 ever received? Pam, what's something that came so far out of left field? Maybe it was funny. Uh, maybe 514 00:45:51,179 --> 00:45:55,898 it was. It was something you'd never seen before, and it was very serious. It doesn't have to be. Uh. 515 00:45:55,899 --> 00:46:00,779 I'm not looking for anything specific. I just want to know the one that stands out in your head is 516 00:46:00,779 --> 00:46:05,418 kind of the craziest call that you've ever received. You know, we've got so many. The only 517 00:46:05,459 --> 00:46:10,620 thing that comes to my mind, this happened. Like my first tenure, I was here, I had a driver call me, 518 00:46:10,620 --> 00:46:16,899 and this was an incident. He said, I woke up and there's a bumper stuck to the back of my trailer. 519 00:46:16,899 --> 00:46:23,099 And I was like, say what? Like you woke up and you're still rolling down the road, or you woke up 520 00:46:23,100 --> 00:46:26,899 from a stop there driver, give me the details. And I'm just like, what. Do you mean? There's a bumper 521 00:46:26,899 --> 00:46:32,029 on the back of your trailer, and I guess he had had like an incident where somebody had ran into 522 00:46:32,030 --> 00:46:36,829 the back of the night before or whatever, and he didn't call to report it, which was his fault. He 523 00:46:36,830 --> 00:46:40,429 didn't call to report it. But when he woke up the next morning, the bumper was still stuck to the 524 00:46:40,429 --> 00:46:47,428 back of his trailer. Oh. Craziest thing I ever heard. So then you go, whoa, what do I do now? Try to 525 00:46:47,429 --> 00:46:52,469 run around the world fast enough to go back to last night when you should have called, right? Yeah. 526 00:46:52,709 --> 00:46:56,669 I mean, you got a bumper, so you worked it out. You know, we we got with the safety director and 527 00:46:56,669 --> 00:47:00,629 everything, and we solved the problem. But, I mean, there was no way to find out what driver that was 528 00:47:00,669 --> 00:47:05,869 unless he called it in himself. But sometimes when other drivers are at fault and they hit trucks, 529 00:47:05,870 --> 00:47:11,829 they don't want to call it in, so they'll just leave the scene. So man can't have that. That's 530 00:47:11,830 --> 00:47:17,229 that's a bad situation from start to finish right there. Yeah. I can't think of anything else. I mean, 531 00:47:17,229 --> 00:47:21,509 we've had some crazy things I had I had a driver one time doing donuts in the parking lot, at 532 00:47:21,510 --> 00:47:27,829 another at a other job over there, which I thought was Crazy. Yeah, but. Hey. 533 00:47:28,350 --> 00:47:32,869 Fast and the furious was really popular for a for a long time there. You never know what they're 534 00:47:32,870 --> 00:47:39,669 into. You know, I mean, he was. Doing donuts in a tractor trailer. I'm like, is he all right? Oh, 535 00:47:39,710 --> 00:47:45,749 man. Yeah, we had some crazy stuff, but no, that's good. That's funny. You know, a lot of the drivers 536 00:47:45,750 --> 00:47:50,949 are just nice and they're funny. I like almost all of our drivers. I truly like they're nice people. 537 00:47:51,149 --> 00:47:55,509 Yeah, they really are. That's that's been my experience too. And and of course, just a sliver 538 00:47:55,509 --> 00:48:00,389 compared to your experience here. But, uh, I've never had anybody come on this show or even the 539 00:48:00,389 --> 00:48:05,870 guys that one thing I've noticed about Cypress is, you know, I'm a I'm a random dude from Oregon 540 00:48:05,870 --> 00:48:10,589 that's going to call you on a Wednesday and ask you to come on a podcast. I understand that it's 541 00:48:10,590 --> 00:48:15,909 not exactly necessarily the most comfortable setup, and some drivers just don't want to do it. 542 00:48:15,950 --> 00:48:20,069 And maybe it's not for them. Maybe they're not comfortable with public speaking. Maybe they'd 543 00:48:20,069 --> 00:48:26,148 just rather listen than take part. And even when those guys say no to me, like, I've been doing this 544 00:48:26,149 --> 00:48:31,229 job for four years, I've talked to thousands of truck drivers across multiple fleets, and I have 545 00:48:31,229 --> 00:48:37,509 had people say some of the rudest stuff to me when they just want to say no. Never once happened 546 00:48:37,509 --> 00:48:43,189 at Cypress. The guys that say no to me at Cypress feel bad, and I don't want you to feel bad, but I 547 00:48:43,189 --> 00:48:49,549 can tell they do just because it's such a helpful culture. It's the culture of if my man needs a 548 00:48:49,550 --> 00:48:55,589 hand, I'm going to give that hand if I have a hand to give. And, um, you're right when you say, I mean, 549 00:48:55,590 --> 00:48:59,909 you're you're the authority here on it. You talk to all of them. I only get just a, uh, just a 550 00:48:59,909 --> 00:49:05,429 sprinkling out of them. So. Yeah, but you can tell Pam, just just like I said earlier, from my fly on 551 00:49:05,429 --> 00:49:11,708 the wall perspective, no doubt that this is a phenomenal group of drivers. And to have 500 of 552 00:49:11,709 --> 00:49:18,469 them. What a feat. I mean, can we just stop for a second and acknowledge the fact that 500 and you 553 00:49:18,469 --> 00:49:23,678 like to work with all of them? I mean, wow, that's amazing. I can't think of any drivers that I've 554 00:49:23,679 --> 00:49:28,120 really disliked over the years. I mean, almost every single one of them have been nice. Not every 555 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:32,559 driver has their quirk. You know, you just know what their quirk is. And you kind of go over that 556 00:49:32,559 --> 00:49:37,119 quirk and get to the point. But most of the drivers are just really nice. They're nice people. 557 00:49:37,159 --> 00:49:42,079 They like the job they do. And so that just helps make the, uh, make us have a great environment when 558 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:47,119 everybody likes what they do. It just makes for a great environment. Do you ever get calls, Pam? Where? 559 00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:52,639 Maybe a couple minutes in. What you realize is, hey, this isn't really an action problem that needs 560 00:49:52,679 --> 00:49:59,159 jumping right now. This is a driver that just needs an ear. Yeah, all the time. All the time. 561 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:05,000 Just wants to vent whatever is making him mad at that moment. And sometimes it's personal issues. 562 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:10,000 And so you take that as you know that's a, that's a different way to handle a personal issue versus 563 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:16,079 a job issue. Because you have to take into account is that personal issue going to affect his job. So 564 00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:20,359 you talk to the driver, try to figure out what his personal issue is, is there someone you can help 565 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:25,759 them with that issue? And then maybe, you know, all he needs is just a break. Maybe he's just worn out, 566 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:30,759 he's stressed and he just needs a break. So you give him that break next time you see him. He's 567 00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:37,319 good as new. That's great. And and how often would you say that happens when a driver calls just to 568 00:50:37,319 --> 00:50:41,519 vent a little bit because, you know, we we've talked about it. Everybody knows about trucking. 569 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:47,799 This is kind of a solitary, isolated career. And a lot of these guys spend hours upon hours by 570 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:53,959 themselves. So I would imagine that that vent call probably comes through, uh, you know, more often 571 00:50:53,959 --> 00:50:59,439 than it would in another gig. How often do you get those panels? Oh, I don't know. I, I don't keep track. 572 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:03,759 I would say, you know, because there's like five of us in the department. So they'll call and talk to 573 00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:08,199 each different person. And we have a tendency to share stories in there. If you know, it's something 574 00:51:08,199 --> 00:51:15,199 that's going to affect all of us. So maybe a real event, maybe once every other week. Not too often. I 575 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:19,359 mean, some people just need to vent about where they're parking or or what's going on on this 576 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,999 yard. And that's just something we just need to correct. I'm not sure if that's a vet or if 577 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:27,519 they're just giving us information. So, hey, this is happening on this yard and I'm letting safety 578 00:51:27,519 --> 00:51:31,560 know so we can jump in and try to correct that issue. I mean, that's I don't know if that's event 579 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,999 or they're just trying to be helpful to us. We have some drivers that call and help us out that 580 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:41,799 way. So maybe could be both. Could be look, I want to help you out here, but this is also under my 581 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:46,959 skin. So I would like to. Tell you about. It. Right. Yeah. I don't, you know, the personal vents, those 582 00:51:46,959 --> 00:51:52,600 are are far more far in between. We don't get those every week. Personal events. People have 583 00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:56,879 personal issues. And you know, a lot of our drivers get home every weekend so they, you know, they can 584 00:51:56,879 --> 00:52:01,239 go home and talk to their spouse or somebody in their family. And maybe the OTR driver needs to 585 00:52:01,240 --> 00:52:08,239 give us a call every now and then. And you call, talk to me, I'll listen. I'll see what I can do. I 586 00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:13,399 would say. So I just based on this conversation, I would think it's a great conversation every time 587 00:52:13,399 --> 00:52:17,609 you get in touch with Pam. Listen, you. Know, I had some drive. I had to tell you what I had. One time 588 00:52:17,610 --> 00:52:24,329 I had a driver who called me, and he was so upset because he was trying to park or 589 00:52:24,330 --> 00:52:30,889 something, and he was so worried that he would not be able to get up the hill and get 590 00:52:30,889 --> 00:52:36,889 into the gate without hitting the gate, and he hadn't even tried yet, is what it was. He was just 591 00:52:36,889 --> 00:52:42,089 so I mean, he was truly worried that he was going to hit that gate. And, you know, you just talk him 592 00:52:42,090 --> 00:52:48,169 off the bridge. Hey, take your time space and check the space on the bridge. Take the space on your 593 00:52:48,169 --> 00:52:53,169 truck, see what kind of turn you have to make and give it a try. You know what? He made it. He called 594 00:52:53,169 --> 00:52:58,449 me to thank me after he finished. He was good to go. That's awesome. And and remember your training, 595 00:52:58,449 --> 00:53:03,689 right? Because these guys all get such great training that they have the skills to do this. 596 00:53:03,730 --> 00:53:07,849 It's just sometimes it's a bit intimidating. That's understandable. And he was a newer driver 597 00:53:07,850 --> 00:53:12,489 too. So sometimes you have to just talk him off the ledge. And and once he got in there I mean he 598 00:53:12,489 --> 00:53:17,649 was just thrilled. Totally thrilled. So, you know, it kind of makes your day like, hey, I got him through 599 00:53:17,649 --> 00:53:23,928 that. That's good. I can. Tell. I know you all can't see the smile that I just saw from Miss Pam here, 600 00:53:23,929 --> 00:53:28,610 but that was a big smile. I can tell that you take some pride in helping those guys out like that. 601 00:53:28,649 --> 00:53:33,889 Yeah. That's awesome. Well, well, Pam, as we start to wrap this up here, uh, once again, I know you're 602 00:53:33,889 --> 00:53:38,369 busy, and I really appreciate the time that you've given us here today, but there is one kind of 603 00:53:38,409 --> 00:53:43,610 looming question that I want to ask you. Uh, because you've got almost 20 years under your 604 00:53:43,610 --> 00:53:49,810 belt at this company. Tell me and tell everybody listening what Cypress has done to earn that type 605 00:53:49,810 --> 00:53:56,369 of loyalty from you. Hmm. I think Cypress, you know, it's a family owned 606 00:53:56,370 --> 00:54:01,969 company. And I think what some of the things I like about some of the things that I really like 607 00:54:02,010 --> 00:54:08,049 about Cypress is I like that, first of all, like my job, obviously, I think that's one of the first 608 00:54:08,049 --> 00:54:11,820 things is I like my job, but the second thing I like is because it's a family owned company, 609 00:54:11,820 --> 00:54:16,259 there's a little bit of flexibility in some of the things that you can do or you can get. And I 610 00:54:16,259 --> 00:54:21,259 don't think that would happen in a corporate environment. Right. That flexibility. I like the 611 00:54:21,259 --> 00:54:28,139 fact that I can come in every day, and I have a set list of things I want to do, and I can get 612 00:54:28,139 --> 00:54:33,859 those done and not be bothered so much sometimes. Does that make sense? I don't always have to. I can 613 00:54:33,860 --> 00:54:37,779 come in, I can sit down. I can get to work. I mean, don't get me wrong, you're going to have phone 614 00:54:37,779 --> 00:54:41,060 calls. You're going to have to have to talk to people to come in, but they leave me alone enough 615 00:54:41,060 --> 00:54:44,859 where I can come in and get all of that done. I don't have somebody looking over my shoulder all 616 00:54:44,860 --> 00:54:50,259 day, every day. Right. And trust you? Yeah. We've all been here so long, we kind of know what needs to 617 00:54:50,260 --> 00:54:54,819 be done every day, how the process works and what we need to turn in and what to do by what's date. 618 00:54:54,899 --> 00:54:59,699 Um, Sherry will jump in, though, if some things are due by a certain date or, you know, because she's 619 00:54:59,699 --> 00:55:03,299 the department leader. I mean, she's the, um, safety director, so of course she's going to jump in and 620 00:55:03,300 --> 00:55:07,979 tell us, hey, we need these by these dates, or we need to do this, or we need to change that. And so 621 00:55:07,979 --> 00:55:14,620 you listen to that. You adapt that into your daily routine. Mhm. And so I like that we have that 622 00:55:14,620 --> 00:55:21,139 flexibility to do that. And I like that. You know when um there's a special projects that come up 623 00:55:21,139 --> 00:55:27,779 sometimes like we needed to scan up uh folders or anything. I was able to come in on a 624 00:55:27,780 --> 00:55:33,539 weekend and work a little bit extra and help them get those, um, folders scanned up. And so that's a 625 00:55:33,540 --> 00:55:37,740 little special project, and I like that I, that I was able to do that special project. I mean, so I, 626 00:55:37,740 --> 00:55:40,779 I've had those a few times that I've been here and I like that, I like that I had that 627 00:55:40,779 --> 00:55:46,419 flexibility to do that. Yeah for sure. Those are all great things, great positive aspects about a 628 00:55:46,419 --> 00:55:52,659 workplace, I love it. Um, can you get to your final thoughts here in just a second? But, uh, there was 629 00:55:52,659 --> 00:55:57,419 one more here. Ah, this is a great one for you. Before we let the drivers get back to what 630 00:55:57,419 --> 00:56:02,259 they're doing. And before we let you get back to what you're doing. What is something that you hope 631 00:56:02,259 --> 00:56:08,899 drivers understand about the people behind the desks that are supporting them, like yourself. Um, I 632 00:56:09,260 --> 00:56:13,859 this is an opportunity to really go anywhere you want with it. But if there was something that you 633 00:56:13,860 --> 00:56:18,379 hope the drivers know about, the staff that you work with and yourself, what do you think that 634 00:56:18,379 --> 00:56:24,340 would be, Pam? I think that what we want the drivers to know is that we're all here, especially 635 00:56:24,340 --> 00:56:28,139 in our safety department, and it's just not the safest holding the whole company that we want to 636 00:56:28,179 --> 00:56:34,939 make drivers successful. And I think each driver has a different idea of what their 637 00:56:34,939 --> 00:56:41,698 success is. And so we try to, you know, hey, this is what we're doing and we hope that what we're 638 00:56:41,699 --> 00:56:47,219 doing and help you reach what your idea of success is. So if your idea of success is you need 639 00:56:47,219 --> 00:56:51,259 to make more money, maybe we can get you hooked up with dispatch and maybe get you some different 640 00:56:51,260 --> 00:56:57,340 routes. If your idea of success is, hey, I want to get a new truck. Hey, maybe we'll get you hooked up 641 00:56:57,340 --> 00:57:02,379 with somebody and we can get you in one of the newer trucks when they come out. If your idea of 642 00:57:02,379 --> 00:57:07,269 success is I want to be home every weekend because this is the type of company I work for. We 643 00:57:07,270 --> 00:57:11,469 need to get with you and make sure that you get in the home on the weekends. If your idea of 644 00:57:11,469 --> 00:57:16,668 success is I just want to be happy with the job I'm doing. Feel free to give us a call and maybe 645 00:57:16,669 --> 00:57:21,109 we can work through. If you have any issues. Does not make you happy. You want everybody be happy. I 646 00:57:21,229 --> 00:57:24,470 personally want everybody in the world to be happy, because it would be a great place if 647 00:57:24,470 --> 00:57:30,990 everybody was happy. Amen to that, man. Amen to that. And, uh, I think maybe you just you you gave us a 648 00:57:30,990 --> 00:57:37,350 little peek there of, of the lift that you guys actually perform at both safety and HR. You got 649 00:57:37,350 --> 00:57:44,189 500 drivers, which means 500 different ideas of what success is. And you work every day to try to 650 00:57:44,230 --> 00:57:50,149 understand all of them, Pam. And that is a that is a monumental lift and something that, hey, I think 651 00:57:50,150 --> 00:57:54,469 you should pat yourself on the back for it and everybody in your department because, uh, that 652 00:57:54,470 --> 00:57:59,589 sounds daunting, but you guys are up for the challenge and you clearly enjoy, uh, that aspect of 653 00:57:59,590 --> 00:58:06,109 the job. Yeah, I do. I like when drivers are successful or you here? I think I listen to one of 654 00:58:06,110 --> 00:58:11,549 your iPods. Earlier in, a driver had shot out my name because of his 401 and how it had become so 655 00:58:11,550 --> 00:58:17,628 successful. I was like, oh, that is really good. I'm glad that he called my wife, because. You know, what 656 00:58:17,629 --> 00:58:22,668 I've learned is that sometimes when drivers leave or they go to retire, I find that some drivers 657 00:58:22,669 --> 00:58:28,749 cannot retire because they don't have the funds. And, you know, a four one K the only put $10 a week 658 00:58:28,749 --> 00:58:32,990 in. You'll be amazed how much money you'll have when it comes time for you to retire. Yeah. So I 659 00:58:32,990 --> 00:58:38,309 try to tell them, hey, start off small, have that grow over time and you'll be amazed when it comes 660 00:58:38,309 --> 00:58:43,749 to retirement. So yeah, it's good to sit back and have somebody shout you out. That's pretty. Cool. 661 00:58:43,790 --> 00:58:49,269 Yeah. It's amazing. And and hey, we'll take a minute to shed a light on how amazing it is. You give up 662 00:58:49,270 --> 00:58:54,989 one Big Mac a week and throw that in your 401 K and look back at it ten years later. You'd be 663 00:58:54,990 --> 00:59:00,148 amazed how much money you'd be sitting on. So. Exactly, exactly. I try to stress that to the 664 00:59:00,149 --> 00:59:04,999 drivers. So all right. Well we're going to make sure and bring you back for open enrollment. So 665 00:59:04,999 --> 00:59:10,119 you can really hammer down on those types of things. And I just want to say once again, thank 666 00:59:10,119 --> 00:59:15,560 you so much for the time today, Pam. This has been phenomenal. I already can't wait to have you back 667 00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:20,599 on the show. Uh, you're very good on the air as I don't. I know you've been doing this for 20 years, 668 00:59:20,599 --> 00:59:27,279 but did you ever consider a career in broadcasting? Never. Well, you have done 669 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:32,320 phenomenal today, and I will gladly welcome you on as an honorary co-host whenever you want. Some 670 00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:37,199 time on the show, Pam. But, uh, let's get to your final thoughts here. As I told you just a little 671 00:59:37,239 --> 00:59:41,800 bit earlier, uh, Final Thoughts segment is anything that we didn't bring up that you want to bring up, 672 00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:47,040 any shoutouts that you want to give? The the point is, the floor is yours. Thank you so much, Pam 673 00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:52,079 Keaton, for the time today. Uh, we we always appreciate getting in touch with the safety and 674 00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:57,239 the HR staff. It's a very important part of what's going on here at Cypress. So give us your final 675 00:59:57,239 --> 01:00:04,039 thoughts before we let you go today. Ooh. That's hard. Final thoughts. Let me see. Well, I'm just 676 01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:10,718 thinking that, you know, I want drivers to understand there are safety rules and regulations 677 01:00:10,719 --> 01:00:16,839 that you have to abide by in order to be a driver, but we still want you to be. And I think I said 678 01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:23,679 this earlier, we still want you to be a happy driver, a person that's happy to be here, a person 679 01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:29,199 that's happy with their job. A person that's happy with their life in general. And if we can help you 680 01:00:29,199 --> 01:00:34,080 in the safety department, that's within our means. We can we will do our best to try to help you get 681 01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:39,319 to that point. That I think that's my final thought. And not just people as a driver, but 682 01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:46,080 people in the office and people who are mechanics or, um, trailer shop employees or loaders. We have 683 01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:51,719 loaders too. I mean, we have a variety of people that sometimes just need a little bit of help. And 684 01:00:51,719 --> 01:00:56,159 I hope we can get you to your happy space, is what I would like everybody to be in their happy space. 685 01:00:56,280 --> 01:01:00,840 Oh, I love that. It's a good Happy Gilmore reference right there. Get to your happy place. Get 686 01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:07,840 to your happy place and everything goes right. Uh, Pam, this you've been phenomenal today. Uh, safety 687 01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:13,760 assistant and HR specialist Pam Keaton. Again. You're welcome back. Anytime. You just get in touch 688 01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:17,919 with me. If you want to come in here and deliver a message to the drivers, I will make space for you, 689 01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:22,958 okay? Okay. All right. Thank you for having me. Thank you. Pam. All righty. Bye bye. 690 01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:37,359 I cannot thank Pam enough for that interview. She spent almost an hour with us as a very 691 01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:44,319 busy employee at Cypress Truck Lines. And wow, what a conversation that was. If you don't have a good 692 01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:49,040 feel about who you're going to call, uh, when something goes wrong, you don't have to dial one 693 01:01:49,079 --> 01:01:54,399 800 Ghostbusters. Pam Keaton's waiting for the call, just like Sherry and the rest of the safety 694 01:01:54,439 --> 01:01:59,729 staff. And, uh, if it's from an HR standpoint, guess what? Pam's waiting for the call as well. And she 695 01:01:59,729 --> 01:02:06,689 has almost 20 years worth of experience of answering the tough questions. Um, look, as I 696 01:02:06,689 --> 01:02:13,649 said before in the intro, we wanted to do this, this employee spotlight now so that 697 01:02:13,649 --> 01:02:17,809 we could get a good feel for Pam, get her introduce to the audience, just in case there's 698 01:02:17,810 --> 01:02:23,409 some of you out there that hadn't met her yet, and really find out what it is that that Pam's day to 699 01:02:23,409 --> 01:02:30,168 day involves. And now that we know all that stuff, we're going to bring her back during open 700 01:02:30,169 --> 01:02:36,129 enrollment so that we can get a really good feel for any adjustments, any changes you need to make. 701 01:02:36,129 --> 01:02:41,729 Because I'll tell you right now, Pam is the lady. She's the one you got to get in touch with. She's 702 01:02:41,729 --> 01:02:46,649 the one that's got all this experience and she can help you solve your problems. Especially if 703 01:02:46,650 --> 01:02:52,648 they, uh, surround benefits and things like that. She's very well versed in that. And, uh, I, I'm 704 01:02:52,649 --> 01:02:57,369 already looking forward to that open enrollment episode. Once again. Just to reiterate, open 705 01:02:57,370 --> 01:03:02,889 enrollment is in December and so look forward for that episode sometime in the first couple weeks 706 01:03:02,889 --> 01:03:08,729 of December, so that we get it to you in time, uh, to handle all of your open enrollment needs now. 707 01:03:08,770 --> 01:03:14,889 Pam's a perfect example of how much work happens behind the scenes at Cypress. Drivers see the 708 01:03:14,889 --> 01:03:20,409 truck, of course. The load dispatch the road. They see all that stuff. But there are people like Pam 709 01:03:20,410 --> 01:03:26,409 and Safety and HR constantly solving problems throughout the day, handling benefits, keeping 710 01:03:26,409 --> 01:03:32,808 paperwork straight, and helping drivers stay moving. And today's episode is a shining example 711 01:03:32,809 --> 01:03:39,290 of how strong this team is. You know, back during our football episode, um, there was something 712 01:03:39,290 --> 01:03:44,969 that, uh, it was said it might have not been our football episode. It might have been one episode 713 01:03:44,970 --> 01:03:51,489 after our football episode, but I remember having a conversation about everybody playing their role 714 01:03:51,490 --> 01:03:56,929 and, sort of equating it to a football team like that. If you're going to be a successful football 715 01:03:56,930 --> 01:04:03,889 team, you're not going to make it without all 11 people doing their job, their role, whatever it is, 716 01:04:03,889 --> 01:04:10,330 you don't need your offensive tackle to drop back and throw the football. You need your offensive 717 01:04:10,370 --> 01:04:16,849 tackle to stand in the way of the giant human beings that are trying to, uh, swarm your 718 01:04:16,850 --> 01:04:23,249 quarterback, right? You're running back. Doesn't need to, uh, run the most perfect route on the 719 01:04:23,250 --> 01:04:28,249 outside. But if he can't handle a little bit of pass protection in between carrying the ball, 720 01:04:28,289 --> 01:04:33,849 toting the rock in between the tackles, well, we might have a problem here. And what Cypress has 721 01:04:33,850 --> 01:04:40,610 shown me throughout 37 episodes now is that every single person knows their 722 01:04:40,610 --> 01:04:47,529 role. They're confident in their role. They're trusted by management to fulfill that role. 723 01:04:47,529 --> 01:04:54,379 And what you get on the other side of it is somebody like Pam who is your. I mean, Hall of Fame 724 01:04:54,379 --> 01:05:01,379 level left tackle. Right? She's handling problems that nobody ever sees. Um, and again, 725 01:05:01,379 --> 01:05:06,019 I just can't thank her enough for the time today because that was a phenomenal interview that she 726 01:05:06,020 --> 01:05:11,899 just delivered. Her biggest message was simple to call sooner, not later. Whether it's a safety 727 01:05:11,899 --> 01:05:18,419 concern, benefits question, a qualifying life event or something that just doesn't feel right. Pam 728 01:05:18,419 --> 01:05:23,459 would rather hear from a driver early. While there's still plenty of time to help if you let 729 01:05:23,460 --> 01:05:29,859 these things fester, if you let them sit, they will become bigger problems. And, uh, Pam's ability to 730 01:05:29,860 --> 01:05:36,139 help you solve said problems gets less and less the longer we let things sit and fester. Uh, she 731 01:05:36,140 --> 01:05:41,019 genuinely understands drivers. That's another thing that I wrote down in my notes, like, you 732 01:05:41,020 --> 01:05:45,859 gotta you gotta hit this in the outro. After nearly 20 years around the fleet, she knows 733 01:05:45,860 --> 01:05:51,619 sometimes the driver needs an answer. Sometimes they need a problem solved and sometimes they 734 01:05:51,620 --> 01:05:56,899 just need somebody to listen for five minutes. It's a solitary job. You're out there isolated a 735 01:05:56,899 --> 01:06:02,779 lot. Um, and the level of understanding only comes with time and the relationships that she's built 736 01:06:02,780 --> 01:06:09,779 over these last, uh, 19 plus years. And the respect clearly goes both ways. Drivers have 737 01:06:09,780 --> 01:06:15,939 shouted Pam and the safety team out without being prompted multiple times on this podcast, and Pam 738 01:06:15,940 --> 01:06:20,579 spent the interview talking about how much she likes and respects the drivers. And I think that 739 01:06:20,580 --> 01:06:27,379 says a lot about the culture here at Cypress. And the big takeaway here. Cypress wants drivers to 740 01:06:27,379 --> 01:06:34,059 succeed, but success looks different for everybody. More money, better home time, a newer truck getting 741 01:06:34,059 --> 01:06:39,219 retirement squared away or simply enjoying the job. Pam made it clear that the people behind the 742 01:06:39,220 --> 01:06:45,740 desks are there to help drivers reach whatever their version of success looks like, 743 01:06:45,830 --> 01:06:51,510 and that's a fantastic place to end it. If we can't drive anything else home today, take that 744 01:06:51,510 --> 01:06:58,069 last one to the bank with your next paycheck, which will be on time because Pam and everybody 745 01:06:58,069 --> 01:07:03,830 else in HR are really good at their jobs. Thank you so much for tuning into this episode of the 746 01:07:03,830 --> 01:07:10,708 Cypress Truck Lines podcast. One more time. The website is podcast.cypresstruck.com. Head on over there to 747 01:07:10,749 --> 01:07:15,309 check out all the episodes. And don't forget to tell a friend about the Cypress Truck Lines 748 01:07:15,309 --> 01:07:21,150 podcast. We'll see you next Wednesday, 5 a.m. local time for another hour of content from the Cypress 749 01:07:21,150 --> 01:07:25,030 Truck Lines podcast. Be safe out there, drivers. We'll see you next week.