"Sasquatch, Black Dogs & the Paranormal Road "

1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:07,800 You ever get that feeling on the road that you're not alone out there? Not like DOT hiding behind 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:12,760 a bush. I mean, something bigger, something furrier. Something that could steal your beef jerky 3 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:18,560 without trying. Here's the wild part. Every year, hundreds of truck drivers report seeing something 4 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:24,959 that they can't explain. Sasquatch, Dogman. Glowing eyes on a logging road or that thing lurking 5 00:00:24,959 --> 00:00:31,240 behind them. Pilot at 3 a.m.. Which that look, that might be a reptile. Just sayin. And for the 6 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:36,080 hotspots for these sightings, they line up almost perfectly with long haul tanker routes. Meaning if 7 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:40,840 anyone's going to find answers, it's the folks driving America's backroads every night. Today's 8 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:46,039 guest. He doesn't just pass through cryptid country, he hunts in it. So buckle up. Kill the dome 9 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:51,200 light. Maybe make sure nothing's breathing behind your cab curtain, because the Cypress Truck Lines 10 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:55,360 podcast is headed deep into the woods tonight. Let's get into it. 11 00:01:00,669 --> 00:01:05,230 Count down to the Cypress Truck Lines podcast starts now. 12 00:01:07,589 --> 00:01:14,469 Your number one professional flatbedding podcast here to deliver stories, safety updates and company 13 00:01:14,470 --> 00:01:19,229 news directly to your ears. Let's get down to business. 14 00:01:24,949 --> 00:01:30,829 Hello and welcome into the Cypress Truck Lines podcast. I'm your host, Marcus Bridges. Thank you so 15 00:01:30,830 --> 00:01:37,069 much for having me on your airwaves today and starting out with something fun. You heard right 16 00:01:37,069 --> 00:01:41,709 there in that cold open thinking, what in the heck is this guy talking about? I'm talking about 17 00:01:41,709 --> 00:01:48,630 Bigfoot, man, Sasquatch, Yeti, skunk ape, um, dog man, Mothman, uh, you name it. 18 00:01:48,630 --> 00:01:55,310 Skinwalkers. I'm talking about it all. This is our Cryptid and paranormal episode of the 19 00:01:55,310 --> 00:01:59,889 Cypress Truck Lines podcast. And my guess is knowing what I already know. This won't be the 20 00:01:59,889 --> 00:02:05,009 only one. Uh, pretty exciting stuff. I got one driver that's been working for Cypress Truck 21 00:02:05,009 --> 00:02:10,969 Lines for a long time is going to join us coming up, and he has had some incredible experiences 22 00:02:10,969 --> 00:02:17,529 when it comes to this type of stuff. And I want to set the table for you here correctly before we 23 00:02:17,529 --> 00:02:24,529 get into this, okay. When it comes to things like this that you can't prove. Um, I, I like to keep an 24 00:02:24,529 --> 00:02:29,849 open mind because I'll tell you this. I'm fascinated by it. Dude, if there is a gorilla-man 25 00:02:29,850 --> 00:02:34,729 running around in the hills of the Pacific Northwest just minding his own business, eating 26 00:02:34,729 --> 00:02:40,649 berries and flicking beetles off the stumps, I'm here for it. I just want to see it. Hell, I just 27 00:02:40,649 --> 00:02:46,729 want to smell it. Can I catch a whiff of the unsheltered nature of this humanoid thing that 28 00:02:46,729 --> 00:02:53,529 lives in the woods? I, I just want to know. I'm like anybody else. I'm curious. Okay. What is it, really? 29 00:02:53,529 --> 00:02:59,520 If it's not what so many people say it is. Then what is it? Tell me that. Can you tell me that? You 30 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:06,480 can't tell me that so I look. This is a lot like a lot of things for me. I think that keeping 31 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:13,360 an open mind is a very important part of just, I don't know, being a human. Is that the easiest way 32 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:19,640 to put it? Let me say this. Anybody that tells me with something of this nature that they 33 00:03:19,640 --> 00:03:25,679 100% have it figured out on either side of the aisle. I'm telling you right now, you're the 34 00:03:25,679 --> 00:03:30,520 scariest person in the room because, uh, you you think you've got it figured out, but meanwhile, 35 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:36,559 nobody can prove it. So that's why I wanted to bring on a driver today with real experience here. 36 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,919 And trust me, we got a good one. I had a great conversation with this driver when I was out in 37 00:03:40,919 --> 00:03:46,080 Florida, uh, meeting everybody and sort of setting up the podcast. So I know the stories that are 38 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:50,519 going to come out of this interview right around the corner here are awesome, and I'm excited for 39 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:55,989 you to stick around, keep an open mind and take from it what you will. You're not going to leave 40 00:03:55,990 --> 00:04:01,669 this episode today with with proof that these things exist. You're also not going to leave this 41 00:04:01,669 --> 00:04:07,550 episode today with proof that they do not exist. And that's the best part about it. Just keep an 42 00:04:07,550 --> 00:04:14,110 open mind and enjoy the conversation. On the other side of interviewing our Cypress driver today 43 00:04:14,110 --> 00:04:19,150 I'm bringing back an old friend of mine, guy that's been driving for a few years himself now. 44 00:04:19,189 --> 00:04:24,389 Done quite a bit of over the road stuff, spent a lot of late nights out on the road, and he told me 45 00:04:24,390 --> 00:04:30,469 a story a while back about the black dog. Now, some of you drivers out there just got a little 46 00:04:30,469 --> 00:04:37,069 clenched in your shorts because I mentioned the black dog. And this is a sort of a mythological 47 00:04:37,070 --> 00:04:43,989 thing that drivers have reported seeing right before a terrible accident. Okay, um, it's 48 00:04:43,989 --> 00:04:48,790 out there. I'm not making this stuff up. This is real trucking lore. If you want to. Once you get 49 00:04:48,790 --> 00:04:53,619 pulled off, uh, and you're you're in your sleeper for the night, or you're at home for the night. Go 50 00:04:53,619 --> 00:05:00,139 ahead and Google the black dog. A truck driver seeing the black dog. It is. There's a there's a 51 00:05:00,140 --> 00:05:05,459 lot of anecdotal evidence out there about it. And this one I think might be even wilder to in 52 00:05:05,459 --> 00:05:11,179 effect than Bigfoot. But I got a driver buddy of mine. His name's Drew, and he's going to come on 53 00:05:11,179 --> 00:05:17,939 the show later and tell you about his story, about his, uh, crossing paths with the black dog. 54 00:05:17,939 --> 00:05:23,219 So we got a lot of exciting stuff here. A lot of real juicy content for you. I'm also going to 55 00:05:23,219 --> 00:05:29,659 bring you a bunch of. I was going to say facts, but I've just been sitting here railing on. Well, if 56 00:05:29,660 --> 00:05:34,899 you think you haven't figured out. So I'm going to bring you some research that's been done into 57 00:05:34,899 --> 00:05:40,220 this category a little bit later on the show. And there are some numbers there, some statistics that 58 00:05:40,220 --> 00:05:47,178 we'll get into as well. Um, facts might be a tough way to put it, but stats for sure. So without 59 00:05:47,179 --> 00:05:52,400 further ado, let's get to our Cypress driver. And here's some wild cryptid stories. 60 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:05,919 All right. Welcome back into the Cypress Truck Lines podcast. I am so excited about our next 61 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:12,920 guest joining us here today. I have Steve Gibson who is a driver trainer at Cypress 62 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:17,239 Truck Lines, if I'm not mistaken. Steve, I should have asked you that before we came on the air. Uh, 63 00:06:17,239 --> 00:06:22,559 are you a driver trainer out there at Cypress? Yeah, I drive, I don't train so much anymore. I'm 64 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:27,680 getting old. Okay. All right, well, uh, thanks for joining us today. I, I want to ask you, because you 65 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:33,119 were introduced to me as Gibby, uh, as your nickname when I was out there in Florida. Is it 66 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:39,160 okay if we call you Gibby here on the podcast? Sure is. Okay. Perfect. Well, give me appreciate you 67 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:43,359 joining me. Now, before we jump into what we're here to talk about today, I just want to get a 68 00:06:43,359 --> 00:06:47,870 little background on you. So the people listening, uh, know your history with Cypress because you've 69 00:06:47,870 --> 00:06:53,269 been with the company for quite some time. Is that correct? Over 23 years. And why have you stayed 70 00:06:53,269 --> 00:07:00,030 here so long? Gibby. The way Cypress operates and it's close to my home and it it just was a fit. 71 00:07:00,109 --> 00:07:04,869 Perfect. Well I'd love to hear that because this is an industry with a ton of turnover. So anytime 72 00:07:04,869 --> 00:07:10,829 you find a fit uh, it's a good it's a good thing, right? That's true. Well, Gibby, I've got you here 73 00:07:10,829 --> 00:07:16,669 today to talk about something that you're very interested in, very educated in, very experienced 74 00:07:16,670 --> 00:07:23,109 in. And that is the, the world of, of cryptids or, or maybe some of you would have just heard of it as 75 00:07:23,109 --> 00:07:28,389 Bigfoot or Sasquatch. And, uh, from what I understand, you've been chasing these things down 76 00:07:28,389 --> 00:07:34,629 for a long time. Gibby, I want to start right at the very beginning. How did your, um, your interest 77 00:07:34,629 --> 00:07:39,390 in this all start? Did you have an experience as a young kid? Did you hear something? Did you see 78 00:07:39,390 --> 00:07:45,750 something on TV? Maybe it was Art Bell or George Noory. Uh, what got you into this, uh, this track 79 00:07:45,820 --> 00:07:52,659 that you're on now? I was in college in Nebraska along the Missouri River, and we 80 00:07:52,700 --> 00:07:58,659 were out messing around about 230 in the morning, and we ran, uh, me and my roommates, there was three 81 00:07:58,659 --> 00:08:04,739 of us, and we ran into something that was a lot bigger than us. We got within about 12, 15ft of us. 82 00:08:05,059 --> 00:08:11,539 It was it was pretty large. And did it did you guys, you know, yell at it? Did you throw something 83 00:08:11,540 --> 00:08:17,940 at it? Did it throw something at you? What happened? Well, we we ran into it. We kind of had a staring 84 00:08:17,940 --> 00:08:24,219 contest. I really couldn't tell you how long. It seemed like a long time. It probably wasn't. But my 85 00:08:24,220 --> 00:08:30,379 roommates ran off and left me standing there, and, uh, it was a full moon, so you could see very 86 00:08:30,379 --> 00:08:36,500 easily. And, uh, it was in front of me about 12, 15ft. And I know we kind of stared at each other for, I 87 00:08:36,500 --> 00:08:43,099 don't know, ten, 15 minutes, maybe longer. Wow. And then it, uh, it was it was 88 00:08:43,099 --> 00:08:49,799 very broad shoulder. My roommates were about 661 and it was a good head taller than they were. Wow. 89 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:56,239 Well, we didn't know what. It's in a little holler in front of us. So it was lower in the ground 90 00:08:56,239 --> 00:09:03,239 about 2 to 3ft lower. So it's, you know, standing 2 or 3ft, plus it's 91 00:09:03,239 --> 00:09:08,199 a good eight, ten inches taller than we are. So I'm, I'm thinking the next day when we were out there, 92 00:09:08,199 --> 00:09:14,280 I realized that it was it was between 7 and 8ft tall. Wow. And and then it made sense because when 93 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:20,239 it turned to leave in front of me, it never took its eyes off me. It it it just turned and kept its 94 00:09:20,239 --> 00:09:27,119 eyes on me. And I realized how wide the shoulders were. It was like it was like a a backboard on a. 95 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:33,880 On. A basketball court. Wow. Yeah. It was, it was it was really wide. And I was, you know, I've hunted 96 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:39,719 all my life. And I was kind of confused, like, what? What am I looking at? I realized it wasn't a man. I 97 00:09:39,719 --> 00:09:45,949 was just my brain wasn't even thinking. I just. I just was just swerving what I was looking at, you 98 00:09:45,950 --> 00:09:51,389 know, I thought. I thought we were in trouble. I thought we were. We were going to get hurt and, uh, 99 00:09:51,469 --> 00:09:57,150 it turned and it never took its eyes off me. And it kind of walked off and did his shadows and it 100 00:09:57,189 --> 00:10:02,309 huffed at me like a like a bear would huff. And it kind of startled me when it did that. And I 101 00:10:02,309 --> 00:10:07,589 realized I wasn't. I wasn't looking at a man. And and after that, I never went out into the woods 102 00:10:07,590 --> 00:10:14,548 ever again without a gun. Never. So you did feel a little bit, even though it didn't do anything to 103 00:10:14,549 --> 00:10:18,309 you or anything like that. You felt kind of the air of a threat there. You felt like you needed to 104 00:10:18,309 --> 00:10:23,429 protect yourself next time you're out. I didn't know I didn't. I could have heard of this if it 105 00:10:23,429 --> 00:10:28,029 wanted to. I mean, it it could have charged. It could have done a lot of things and it it didn't 106 00:10:28,030 --> 00:10:34,909 it just it just, um, when it huffed at me, I, I had the sense of annoyance, like it was 107 00:10:34,909 --> 00:10:41,859 annoyed. Now, the next day when we went out that we'd been watching it go over to a 108 00:10:41,900 --> 00:10:48,780 big oak tree ripping something down. And the next day there was a big pile of leaves over 109 00:10:48,780 --> 00:10:55,098 by another tree where it was walking to. So I realized it was pulling down leaves off, off 110 00:10:55,099 --> 00:11:00,699 branches, and it was making a bed to lay on because the ground was frozen. It's November. 111 00:11:00,700 --> 00:11:06,939 Everything. Everything's frozen. So it was it was making, um. The old timers would call our burrow 112 00:11:06,979 --> 00:11:11,859 bitch. So you make it an insulating layer between you and the ground, right? And that's what it was 113 00:11:11,859 --> 00:11:18,300 doing. Wow. And, um. That. Yeah, it just got me to think. And, you know, 114 00:11:18,460 --> 00:11:24,699 animals just don't do that. And I didn't think this was a man. I, you know, I didn't know what to 115 00:11:24,700 --> 00:11:31,619 think. So that started my my interest. And I just started doing, you know, looking 116 00:11:31,619 --> 00:11:37,859 up and watching any, any kind of information I could find. Back in those days, people didn't talk 117 00:11:37,900 --> 00:11:44,368 a lot about it. But you talk to some of the farmers, they would see large shadows in the tree 118 00:11:44,409 --> 00:11:51,289 lines in their fields. Every once in a while there would be a hog with 100 150 pound hog 119 00:11:51,289 --> 00:11:57,210 missing, you know, and and they, they don't, you know, they don't hop fences and run off. Really. So and 120 00:11:57,210 --> 00:12:01,689 there's nothing out there that's going to take down. Yeah. Something like that. You guys aren't you 121 00:12:01,690 --> 00:12:06,729 don't have the, the big gray wolves or cougars or anything like that that's really active out there 122 00:12:06,770 --> 00:12:12,209 do you. No not really. You have every once in a while you run into a panther. It's kind of rare in 123 00:12:12,210 --> 00:12:18,969 that part of a it's southeastern Nebraska. We have them in above Jacksonville and in the 124 00:12:18,969 --> 00:12:24,049 panhandle of Florida. But nothing that's nothing that's going to actively take down hogs every 125 00:12:24,049 --> 00:12:30,289 night or even that frequently. This is a real this is a real weird thing. It's a weird thing. It's 126 00:12:30,289 --> 00:12:36,749 like it's it's it's unusual. It doesn't happen a lot. And, um, but when you start 127 00:12:37,750 --> 00:12:43,389 talking to people and listening to people who who run into these things, you know, they all say the 128 00:12:43,390 --> 00:12:50,229 same thing. They either their their minds kind of went blank. They were frozen, couldn't 129 00:12:50,229 --> 00:12:56,229 move. Uh, you know, everybody says the same things. So I didn't feel like I was frozen. I was just 130 00:12:56,229 --> 00:13:00,989 startled, like I didn't know what I was looking at. Like I didn't know what you know. What do you do? 131 00:13:01,030 --> 00:13:07,788 So, you know. And wild animals running is not the thing you want to do, because that 132 00:13:08,069 --> 00:13:14,309 creates, uh, a chase pattern, right? So. So you don't want to run from a cat. You don't want to run from 133 00:13:14,309 --> 00:13:21,150 a bear. All you just want to walk away, and I, I, I didn't move until it left. And so 134 00:13:21,150 --> 00:13:27,869 I've talked to other people. Similar experiences. It's an accident when you run into one. And, uh, 135 00:13:27,870 --> 00:13:34,779 there are actually are really good, uh, videos on, on YouTube where people have very highly 136 00:13:34,780 --> 00:13:40,019 detailed movie clips of, you know, where they from, their camera or whatever they were filming with. 137 00:13:40,340 --> 00:13:47,218 And, um, they're they're highly detailed. I mean, you can see the muscles move. You can see, uh, 138 00:13:47,260 --> 00:13:51,059 I've seen a couple where they've had injuries where they've got, like a muscle rupture in their 139 00:13:51,060 --> 00:13:57,699 thigh. So it, you know, I, I don't have a doubt. Once you see one, you, you 140 00:13:57,739 --> 00:14:01,940 there's like, I don't care what you say. Okay. So that was kind of that was kind of where I was 141 00:14:01,940 --> 00:14:06,659 going to go with it next. Steve. Because I, I, I honestly what I would like to consider myself is 142 00:14:06,659 --> 00:14:13,619 open minded. I would love for all of this to be 100% true. I think it's fascinating. Um, I, I 143 00:14:13,780 --> 00:14:20,299 also I try to when I say I'm open minded, I try to, uh, retain just a little bit of logical skepticism 144 00:14:20,299 --> 00:14:26,419 here, but I look, I grew up in the mountains. I understand there's weird noises that happen out 145 00:14:26,420 --> 00:14:31,900 there. There smells. That's something that I've heard, uh, mentioned before that I. I wanted to ask 146 00:14:31,900 --> 00:14:36,849 you, standing that close to it? Did you smell it? You know, it was wintertime, so there was there was 147 00:14:36,849 --> 00:14:43,769 no smell. But, um, I've been in the woods where you you smell, uh, like the 148 00:14:43,770 --> 00:14:50,649 rank ist, nastiest smelling garbage dump. And, uh, when 149 00:14:50,650 --> 00:14:57,609 you talk to people, a lot of them run into a smell. Um, I've been hunting, uh, running dogs 150 00:14:57,610 --> 00:15:02,330 with friends where dogs won't go into a thicket. They they just won't go in there. They'll sit down 151 00:15:02,369 --> 00:15:07,489 later. And we're talking pit bulls, big pit bulls. And they they just they're not interested in 152 00:15:07,530 --> 00:15:13,769 going into whatever's in that thicket. Now, it could be a bear or a panther or. But, you know, 153 00:15:13,769 --> 00:15:18,489 there's something in there where they won't go in there. And and so when a dog doesn't want to go in, 154 00:15:18,490 --> 00:15:23,888 I, I'm good with that. Whatever's in there, he's saying not me. Yeah. So. Right, right. And if it's a 155 00:15:23,889 --> 00:15:28,169 pitbull, I don't if he's not going to mess with it, I don't need to mess with it. Right. No. And yeah. 156 00:15:28,169 --> 00:15:34,829 And it's like, you know, we're not hunting with one. Usually there's 4 to 6. And so these are over 100 157 00:15:34,829 --> 00:15:41,709 pound dogs. So I mean and they live they live for the grabbing on to something in blood. Right. 158 00:15:41,749 --> 00:15:47,189 They, they you know the but the thing is if you just do a little research, you're going to find 159 00:15:47,189 --> 00:15:54,149 that every Indian culture in the United States, uh, recognizes these, these 160 00:15:54,149 --> 00:15:59,709 creatures, and they don't refer to them as an animal. They refer to them as another tribe. So 161 00:15:59,869 --> 00:16:06,829 interesting. And they, uh, you know, and it's it's every one. Now, some of them think it's 162 00:16:06,829 --> 00:16:13,389 like a spirit, you know, and and. Uh, right. Like the Skinwalkers. I've, I've heard lots about 163 00:16:13,390 --> 00:16:19,628 them. So. Yeah. People talk about that how they, you know, they just disappear. Well, if you've ever been 164 00:16:19,629 --> 00:16:26,348 around bears or anything else when they go to leave, they don't usually hang out. If they want to 165 00:16:26,390 --> 00:16:32,940 get away from you, they just get into the woods and all of a sudden they're gone. And yeah, 166 00:16:32,979 --> 00:16:38,060 mountain lions are the same thing. I've heard mountain lions a lot. Rarely have I seen one. 167 00:16:38,099 --> 00:16:43,820 That's true. I've spent so many hours in the wilderness in the Pacific Northwest, which is 168 00:16:43,820 --> 00:16:50,378 cougar territory right there everywhere. In fact, in my home town that I grew up in, I've got 169 00:16:50,379 --> 00:16:55,779 pictures of when when they repealed the law in the state of Oregon, that you could hunt cougars 170 00:16:55,780 --> 00:17:01,179 with hound dogs and can't hunt them with dogs anymore. Um, they were coming into town because 171 00:17:01,180 --> 00:17:07,259 they were getting so overpopulated. And I've got a picture that my dad sent me years ago of a, uh, 172 00:17:07,420 --> 00:17:13,379 adolescent cougar with its, uh, front paws up on a farmers screen door. Um, because they were hungry. 173 00:17:13,380 --> 00:17:19,619 There, there, there were too many of. Them for. Food. Exactly. And and so, you know, I I've, I can echo 174 00:17:19,660 --> 00:17:24,338 that sentiment. Uh, Gibby that they are around you all the time out there. And you never 175 00:17:24,339 --> 00:17:30,889 seen him in my 30 years hunting. I've seen two cougars. And you listen. If you listen 176 00:17:31,089 --> 00:17:37,969 and just, you know, walk and just sit and be quiet, you'll hear things. Um, I've heard whistles, 177 00:17:38,089 --> 00:17:44,529 like I'm talking whistles that are sold out like that. And so my understanding is 178 00:17:44,530 --> 00:17:50,489 that Sasquatch, before they whistle, um, when you talk to some scientists, they say they have their 179 00:17:50,490 --> 00:17:57,250 own language. You know, it's like I, you know, and they and they're they're talking to each other. So 180 00:17:57,290 --> 00:18:03,050 I don't know if they have their own language or not. I mean, I, I find it all interesting. Um, but, you 181 00:18:03,050 --> 00:18:09,848 know, every state from Texas, all the way up into the Catskills, there's 182 00:18:09,849 --> 00:18:16,769 people see these things and and so thousands of people can't be seeing ghosts. So. Um, 183 00:18:16,810 --> 00:18:22,249 right now that that brings me to a logical question that I'll ask here, because I this is 184 00:18:22,249 --> 00:18:28,669 something that's always kept me wondering If what we're seeing here is of this, this physical and 185 00:18:28,670 --> 00:18:35,349 mortal coil. Okay. And that is, you know, we haven't found any any remains of any of these. What what's 186 00:18:35,350 --> 00:18:40,269 your take on that? Why do you think that is? My take is they bury their dead. When's the last time 187 00:18:40,270 --> 00:18:45,069 you found a bare skeleton? When's the last time you found a mountain lion skeleton? I never have, 188 00:18:45,109 --> 00:18:51,188 never. All the time in the woods. I've never. Unless they got shot or they were hit on the side of the 189 00:18:51,189 --> 00:18:57,669 road. I have never seen, uh, any predator 190 00:18:57,670 --> 00:19:03,670 skeletons ever. That's true. It's. It's very rare to see a predator skeleton. And I've been in the 191 00:19:03,670 --> 00:19:10,309 woods a lot. So my my thought is there's probably more bears than 192 00:19:10,310 --> 00:19:16,789 panthers than there are of these things. Right? So the chances that you even seen 193 00:19:16,790 --> 00:19:23,739 one is rare. Now on the road. I've seen bears cross the road. I've seen them killed on the side of the 194 00:19:23,739 --> 00:19:30,180 road. I've seen panthers maybe only 3 or 4 times cross the 195 00:19:30,180 --> 00:19:36,938 road. I've seen them, um, up in Georgia. There was one behind my my mom's house. 196 00:19:36,939 --> 00:19:42,579 They lived on a mountainside. I remember looking up one day, and there's there's a big black one. 197 00:19:42,579 --> 00:19:47,259 It's a jaguar. And you can see the spots. And my mom goes, look at that dog. And all of a sudden 198 00:19:47,260 --> 00:19:52,699 they jump from one side of a boulder to another, which is about 15ft in. And we realized that is 199 00:19:52,699 --> 00:19:57,019 not a dog. Not a. Dog. You know, they don't. Yeah. Then you see this big long tail with a little crook at 200 00:19:57,020 --> 00:20:02,860 the end of it, and you realize, definitely not a dog right now. At that point I'm like, well, you 201 00:20:02,860 --> 00:20:08,699 know, the the all the nephews and my son. And they would all run over the mountain to go running 202 00:20:08,699 --> 00:20:13,098 around and in the woods. And after that I was like, well, you can't do that anymore. Yeah. Yeah. 203 00:20:13,139 --> 00:20:18,458 Something like that lurking out there. You never know. Yeah, well it's good, you know, when, when 204 00:20:18,459 --> 00:20:22,809 they're old and hungry, they're, they're going to go whatever they can catch. Exactly. And kids. Kids 205 00:20:22,810 --> 00:20:29,369 look like a great meal on the go. Right at it. And here's the thing. They have lots 206 00:20:29,369 --> 00:20:36,249 of, uh, footprint casts and the cast, many of them have dermal ridges, which are fingerprints on the 207 00:20:36,250 --> 00:20:43,129 bottom of your feet. They have handprints that have dermal ridges. I mean, so if you're going to 208 00:20:43,169 --> 00:20:46,489 fake something, why are you going to take the time to make dermal ridges? And they've actually had 209 00:20:46,490 --> 00:20:52,609 the FBI look at the dermal ridges and they realized that, hey, there's something out there. 210 00:20:52,649 --> 00:20:58,129 It's a biped walking around out there. You know what it is. They're not saying what it is. They're 211 00:20:58,130 --> 00:21:05,049 saying what it isn't. It's it's humanoid. And and it has dermal ridges in its feet and on its hands 212 00:21:05,050 --> 00:21:11,489 and the hands. And you gotta understand. It would be like your shack. 213 00:21:11,930 --> 00:21:18,209 And. Your son's holding. You know, your eight year old's holding his hand up to your hand. Right. And 214 00:21:18,209 --> 00:21:25,079 that's how big their hands are. Their hands are huge. So people find nests. They say they 215 00:21:25,079 --> 00:21:31,839 make nests and kind of that's what it was doing in, uh, in Nebraska. Who was making a nest lay 216 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:38,439 on. They live in family groups and they, they don't want to be bothered. And so I'm more of 217 00:21:38,439 --> 00:21:44,039 the somebody doesn't want to be bothered. I'm good with that. So do you, do you go out looking or, or 218 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:49,879 hunting for them or hunting for signs. How do you approach it? I every once in a while will go up 219 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:56,159 through the Okefenokee. You know, the swamp areas above Florida and around my friends have heard 220 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:02,280 things, but no one's ever seen anything, but they hear whistles, or so every once in a while, one guy 221 00:22:02,319 --> 00:22:08,398 heard a yell that he said that it was so loud that he could feel the vibrations of it in his 222 00:22:08,399 --> 00:22:15,239 chest. Wow. And I'm thinking, well, it's telling you to go away. And he goes, well, I did. Um, so they 223 00:22:15,239 --> 00:22:22,019 there's lots of, uh, if you look around down for, uh, uh, father and son. They have a thermal 224 00:22:22,019 --> 00:22:26,379 image of one peeking around a tree. They hide behind trees, and they'll peek their head around 225 00:22:26,379 --> 00:22:33,379 to see if you've gone. And, uh, they call it Tree Peak, uh, peaking. And and so this is what 226 00:22:33,380 --> 00:22:40,219 this thing is doing, but it's a thermal image. And so I don't know how you fake a thermal image. 227 00:22:40,500 --> 00:22:47,339 Uh, I imagine somebody can do that. But, you know, this guy was ex-military, and him and his son were 228 00:22:47,339 --> 00:22:52,698 hearing things that went on with a with a thermal scope and recorded one of these scenes peeking 229 00:22:52,699 --> 00:22:57,578 around the tree. And then it ran off and they could see them. They could see it was pitch black. 230 00:22:57,619 --> 00:23:03,139 They could see it through the thermal, but they couldn't see anything else. But this thing stopped, 231 00:23:03,180 --> 00:23:08,659 hid behind a tree and was looking dead at them. So that means it's it. It has the ability to see at 232 00:23:08,660 --> 00:23:15,649 night. Right? So it's it's like an animal. It's able to see in the dark. So it makes sense? 233 00:23:15,849 --> 00:23:21,688 It makes sense if they were nocturnal, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And they're mostly nocturnal. So I 234 00:23:21,810 --> 00:23:28,730 imagine they eat what bears eat. They eat grasses, uh, berries and whatever 235 00:23:28,730 --> 00:23:35,329 they can catch. Have you ever had, uh, cypress send you anyplace in particular? Uh, maybe wanting to 236 00:23:35,329 --> 00:23:42,169 get out and do a little looking around once you get out there? About 20 years ago, we were coming. 237 00:23:42,209 --> 00:23:48,169 I had a trainee. You were coming from Dothan, and we used to come across 82 into Havana back in 238 00:23:48,170 --> 00:23:53,968 those days. It was only a two lane road. And you got out by the swamps and it was just in the 239 00:23:53,969 --> 00:24:00,529 woods. Mhm. And uh, my trainee, there was something that caught his 240 00:24:00,850 --> 00:24:07,249 eye and I slowed down to about 30 miles an hour and I, something was standing there and it went to 241 00:24:07,250 --> 00:24:12,809 step out. And when the headlights came around the corner it stepped back in the tree line and had 242 00:24:12,810 --> 00:24:19,599 an arm up on the on tree or pine or whatever, wherever it was, and 243 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:25,400 the trainee got a real good look at it and he goes, did you see that? I said, I'm not sure what I 244 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:31,640 saw, but I saw something move, and that's about all I could say. I saw something move and I slowed 245 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:38,399 down. He got a good look at it, so he came back and he quit. Really going back. I went back to a New 246 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:44,319 Jersey. They don't have. This. They don't have this shit down here. Going back to the concrete jungle, 247 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:49,639 right? Yeah. I just I just cursed, but that's exactly what he said. He's going back to to 248 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:56,679 something, you know, uh, civilization. Yeah. Um, interesting. Uh, so I would 249 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:02,680 say, if you pay attention driving a lot of nights out in the boonies, you you have no idea. 250 00:25:03,439 --> 00:25:10,438 Uh, I, I've seen, uh, otters of beavers. And you don't realize how big these things are. 251 00:25:10,479 --> 00:25:17,259 They're really large there. I mean, three plus feet, sometimes four other really large animals. 252 00:25:17,259 --> 00:25:24,059 And, uh, I think we had, uh, one of our drivers hit a bear over by Ocala. Yep, yep. I've heard 253 00:25:24,060 --> 00:25:29,818 I've heard whispers of that. I mean, listen, I've had a brown bear run in front of me, so I know 254 00:25:29,819 --> 00:25:35,020 that you know those things. You won't. And it's funny, because I think that it's on both sides of 255 00:25:35,060 --> 00:25:39,339 that spectrum that you're talking about. You don't know how big things are. I could have sworn what 256 00:25:39,380 --> 00:25:46,299 ran down in front of me was a small dog. But my passenger. No, that absolutely was a bear cub. And 257 00:25:46,300 --> 00:25:53,059 we need to keep driving because. Right. Well. Right. Well, yeah. You know, there's a bear cub. So 258 00:25:53,060 --> 00:25:57,780 where's bear. Mama? Exactly. And we were in a Ford Focus so that he would have tossed that car off 259 00:25:57,780 --> 00:26:04,579 the side of the mountain. Yeah, yeah. I mean, but you don't see them at night. Yeah. Dark brown or 260 00:26:04,579 --> 00:26:11,489 black there. I mean, when they cross the road, uh, you're on top of them, you know? Like. Like, yea. 261 00:26:11,530 --> 00:26:16,129 Everything waits for the last minute to cross the road. Yeah. Yeah. So. And something else that you 262 00:26:16,130 --> 00:26:20,209 touched on there Gibby you a little bit ago that I think is very poignant. And people that don't 263 00:26:20,209 --> 00:26:24,930 spend a lot of time in the woods should understand. And that's about how easy it is to 264 00:26:24,969 --> 00:26:31,849 disappear in the forest. And if you've never hunted an animal before. Um, you know, deer and 265 00:26:31,849 --> 00:26:38,369 elk are my favorite to hunt and and mostly elk. Okay. And those things are five, six, 700 pounds. 266 00:26:38,369 --> 00:26:44,649 They stink like the high heavens, and they're loud, and they can walk away from you when you're just 267 00:26:44,649 --> 00:26:50,529 meters away and disappear completely. Yeah. When they want to be quiet, you just don't hear them. 268 00:26:50,569 --> 00:26:55,569 Yeah. And there are large animals with four feet. You think you would hear hear them? You might 269 00:26:55,569 --> 00:27:02,409 catch a whiff and see a lot of times, uh, when you catch smells, you know, bear stink bad. 270 00:27:02,449 --> 00:27:09,399 Yep, coyotes stink bad. So I would be looking at anyone say, oh, I smelled something 271 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:15,439 bad because that could be anything. It's just a wild animal that's not smelling good. So. Right. It 272 00:27:15,439 --> 00:27:22,239 doesn't mean it's a, you know, it's a Sasquatch or a Bigfoot. I mean, but you have, uh, there are 273 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:28,279 so many really good videos in Florida. They see one people are stopping along the side of the 274 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:33,599 road by one of these swamps, and way out there they could see something. That's upper body is 275 00:27:33,599 --> 00:27:37,839 above the sawgrass. So if you're above the sawgrass, that means you're really tall. Like 276 00:27:37,839 --> 00:27:43,318 really tall, right? You know. And so there's 20, 30 people there filming and they're watching. They're 277 00:27:43,360 --> 00:27:49,999 watching it until they, you know, it gets it to a tree line. And, and there's a lot of good videos of, 278 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:56,159 of these things crossing a meadow. If you go to a 279 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:03,879 Harley Hoffman Bigfoot video, it has about a, uh, I don't 280 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:09,790 know, 22 second clip of something walking away, but you get a real good picture of its shoulders. Its 281 00:28:09,790 --> 00:28:16,429 turning to looking over his shoulder at you. It's got a heavy brow. The muscles in its back are 282 00:28:16,430 --> 00:28:21,269 like. Like it's a bodybuilder. That's what I mean. It's just they're massive. And he's pretty much is 283 00:28:21,270 --> 00:28:27,910 right. That thing's picking up the heavy stuff all the time, I'm sure. Well, it's it it's it lives in 284 00:28:27,910 --> 00:28:34,509 the woods and it's feeding itself. So it's running down deer. Yeah. I mean, so yeah. So it's 285 00:28:35,109 --> 00:28:41,748 let let me ask you this. Let me ask you this. Gibby, um, what do you need to. And it kind of sounds like 286 00:28:41,749 --> 00:28:46,669 you might already be there, but is there a particular piece of evidence that you would need 287 00:28:46,670 --> 00:28:51,750 to see to slam your hand on the table and say, 100%, I believe it, these things are real? Or is 288 00:28:51,750 --> 00:28:57,389 that already where you're at? But for me, I'm already at when you run into it, you know, and it 289 00:28:57,430 --> 00:29:04,289 huffs at you, right? And you realize now the next day, you know, I'm looking into. the 290 00:29:04,289 --> 00:29:10,649 grounds frozen? It's the middle of November, but the grass is dead. You could see kind of where it 291 00:29:10,810 --> 00:29:17,449 it it pushed the grass down a little bit. It's not like tracks, but when the, when it appears to be 292 00:29:17,450 --> 00:29:24,448 like 50 inch steps. Okay, so what the. Who the hell is that Big? Shaq. That's 293 00:29:24,449 --> 00:29:30,409 the only. You already mentioned him. He's the only one. Right. And so there is a 294 00:29:31,530 --> 00:29:38,209 highway patrol from Hiwassee. Uh, if you look it up, you can find it once in a 295 00:29:38,209 --> 00:29:44,929 while. And basically there's one walking down the side of the road. Uh, the highway 296 00:29:44,930 --> 00:29:51,849 patrol car is the video you're watching. And this thing crosses a two lane road 297 00:29:51,849 --> 00:29:58,728 in three steps. Wow. Okay. And the fourth step takes it off the side of the road. Now, all you really 298 00:29:58,729 --> 00:30:05,520 see and errands. Watch this before you all. You really see, when they show the outline, you kind of 299 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:12,559 can see the outline of it, but you see from about the about above the hips down and you can 300 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:19,439 see the steps. And so how big do you have to be to cross a two lane highway in 301 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:26,519 three and a half steps. Right. And that's, that's those are big steps. So people see 302 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:31,718 them all the time. It's and and most and that's the people that say stuff. Most people don't say 303 00:30:31,719 --> 00:30:37,239 anything I don't care I have I have no problems. You can believe whatever you want to believe. You 304 00:30:37,239 --> 00:30:43,280 can say whatever you want to say. There's nothing you can say that will ever change my mind. It's 305 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:50,119 not possible. I know what I saw. Right. Right. And so, I mean, talking to you now, I 306 00:30:50,119 --> 00:30:57,079 still see it in my mind like I happened last night. I mean, it, it's it's imprinted, like, forever. 307 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:03,309 Sure. I imagine so. It's, uh. and then when you start looking at other people, they, you know, they all 308 00:31:03,310 --> 00:31:07,269 have the same thing. They don't they don't care what other people have to say. They don't really 309 00:31:07,269 --> 00:31:11,390 want to go talking about it. Most a lot of people won't even tell you where they see them because 310 00:31:11,390 --> 00:31:16,749 they just they don't want people going out trying to see them because they just they wanted to be 311 00:31:16,749 --> 00:31:23,669 left alone. So, um, I'm kind of on on with that, you know? Um, just leave them 312 00:31:23,670 --> 00:31:30,469 alone. It's like this. Why are you going to go after the bear? Sure, sure. Why you gotta go poke. 313 00:31:30,469 --> 00:31:34,909 Don't go poke the bear. I believe that's a that's. A. Bear. That's a common adage. There you go. Poke 314 00:31:34,909 --> 00:31:41,269 the bear. So, I mean, and and really, you know, when you start looking at our national 315 00:31:41,270 --> 00:31:48,189 forests, um, and you can, you can look this up like the 411 he has. This guy has, 316 00:31:48,190 --> 00:31:52,949 uh, I can't pronounce his last name as Polaris or something. But anyway, he's the next detective, and 317 00:31:52,949 --> 00:31:59,369 he's looking at all the people that go missing in our parks. There's a there's 400 every year that 318 00:31:59,370 --> 00:32:05,929 just vanish. Wow. Everything vanishes. And my belief is. Well, if all your gear vanishes, that's probably 319 00:32:05,929 --> 00:32:12,770 people stealing and doing whatever people do. And I would say, okay, that means we either one we 320 00:32:12,770 --> 00:32:19,768 have a problem or we have a serial killer that, that, that hang out by all 321 00:32:19,769 --> 00:32:26,649 our parks and and people. They take dogs, they go looking for them, and they don't 322 00:32:26,650 --> 00:32:33,649 find a thing. They find nothing. So you know what's causing all of that? And it's it's 323 00:32:33,650 --> 00:32:40,409 possible, sure, that some of those are attributed to. They ran into something and it got 324 00:32:40,450 --> 00:32:45,289 agitated and it just snatched up. Right? Right. Could have could have spooked it. Walked up on be 325 00:32:45,290 --> 00:32:50,249 on it behind it not knowing it was there or something like that. And it just reacted. Right, you 326 00:32:50,249 --> 00:32:56,959 know. And my thing is, is, you know, when I look at that on the other side of that coin is 327 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:03,759 that animals know you're in the woods. Every animal hears better than you. Sees better than 328 00:33:03,759 --> 00:33:10,039 you. Smells better than you. So when we go in the woods, we're kind of like 329 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:17,279 dumb. Right. Now. Unless you deliberately do 330 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:21,478 things to mask your scent and. And, you know, there's a lot of stuff out there for hunting that 331 00:33:21,479 --> 00:33:28,400 you can mask your scent. And then you go creeping around and, you know, and you're 332 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:33,559 not moving real fast, and you're you're not making a lot of noise. And when you when you do that, 333 00:33:33,599 --> 00:33:40,519 you're going to run into things like, like deer. You'll get real up close to them. Um, you'll 334 00:33:40,519 --> 00:33:46,919 get close to all kinds of critters. And when they realize you're there, um, you know, they 335 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:53,559 they usually run off. Yep, yep. I, I would advise they don't. I would advise anybody that wants to 336 00:33:53,599 --> 00:34:00,109 experience this in a real, uh, what I would call safe and controlled way. Uh, next time you're out, 337 00:34:00,110 --> 00:34:05,708 uh, on a hunt or whatever, and, uh, you get a little bit tired, just set your alarm on your phone, lay 338 00:34:05,709 --> 00:34:11,629 down, and take, like, a 30 or 40 minute nap. When you wake up, there's things around you. It happens to 339 00:34:11,670 --> 00:34:15,990 me every single time. There's always movement around you. As you've stopped disturbing the 340 00:34:15,990 --> 00:34:21,389 forest for those 40 minutes, things have started to normalize and they've started to reclaim the 341 00:34:21,389 --> 00:34:28,149 the places they were. Uh, there's lots of, uh, people tell the stories of 342 00:34:28,149 --> 00:34:34,429 sleeping and having snow kicked in their face, and they look up and it's it's something standing 343 00:34:34,429 --> 00:34:41,269 over them. Uh, there's things peeking in the windows. You know, if you start looking at all the 344 00:34:41,269 --> 00:34:48,189 stories and sometimes it's deer, it's it's bear. It's like this piss off a 345 00:34:48,189 --> 00:34:55,139 35 pound raccoon and see how he attacks you. How he reacts. Yeah, yeah. Because 346 00:34:55,219 --> 00:35:00,779 I mean that 35 pound dog that has hands. Right. Okay. I mean, you could say the same thing about a 347 00:35:00,780 --> 00:35:05,659 house cat. You ever seen a house cat go nuts and get upset at something and attack it? I mean, those 348 00:35:05,660 --> 00:35:12,459 things are. It's amazing the agility that some animals have. Right. And I'm like, 349 00:35:13,020 --> 00:35:19,178 you don't even want to try to handle it. No. Imagine if it's 35 to 135 pounds. 350 00:35:19,820 --> 00:35:25,499 And that's still a far sight smaller than what we're talking about here. Right. And right. So 351 00:35:25,500 --> 00:35:32,378 you're talking I've seen tracks. So I imagine, you know, I'm, I'm 200 pounds or back to maybe 352 00:35:32,379 --> 00:35:38,779 180, and I'm barely putting a dent in the ground, like, just hardly making a track at all. But then 353 00:35:38,780 --> 00:35:44,100 you have something that's stepping out heel to toe, and it's going in the ground three quarters 354 00:35:44,100 --> 00:35:49,539 of an inch. How heavy is that? So you just take a lot of things. You. There's nobody walking around 355 00:35:49,540 --> 00:35:56,039 with a 400 pound footprint stamping it in the ground. Right. And and it doesn't take a lot of, uh, 356 00:35:56,399 --> 00:36:01,639 knowledge about how to track when you see something go heel to toe and then it pushes off 357 00:36:01,639 --> 00:36:08,398 its toes. You can see the force it applies to the ground and how it changes the 358 00:36:08,399 --> 00:36:15,199 ground as it's going through that motion. And you. And so once 359 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:22,038 walking around leaving footprints, that's pushing in the ground three quarters to an inch 360 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:28,958 plus deep. Right. And you're like that. That takes a lot of weight. That's around 600 to 800 pounds. 361 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:36,079 So if you want to go look for that, uh. Be my guest, right? Be my guest. All right. I mean, I 362 00:36:37,399 --> 00:36:42,639 tell people when you see it, and it's going in a certain direction. I would go the other direction. 363 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:47,079 And you want to get curious? You're going to get what you're going to get, and you might not see 364 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:53,349 nothing. And then but then that one time you should have left it alone. Right. And, uh, next time 365 00:36:53,350 --> 00:36:59,429 you're in the woods, especially where there's a lot of forest, you know, there's trails. Some trails 366 00:36:59,429 --> 00:37:05,289 are much wider than others. Why? A deer trail is not very wide, but when you get one that's two 367 00:37:05,290 --> 00:37:11,949 feet wide. What? What's walking down there? What I mean. Making a two foot wide track through the 368 00:37:11,949 --> 00:37:18,110 woods. And and sometimes if you go to the left or right of that, about 369 00:37:18,749 --> 00:37:25,668 6 to 10, 15ft, there's another trail. And sometimes that trail is 370 00:37:26,149 --> 00:37:32,830 bigger. And I think what it is, is, uh, predators tracking gain. 371 00:37:32,830 --> 00:37:38,189 So they come down one trail and the game comes down another trail. And interesting. That's just 372 00:37:38,910 --> 00:37:44,149 that. That's just a thought. It may not be that. It may be something completely different, but, you 373 00:37:44,149 --> 00:37:50,178 know, I mean, it it it looks like that. That's the tracker instinct in you that's telling you that, 374 00:37:50,219 --> 00:37:56,619 right? Yeah. Right. So I mean, as a kid, I love trying to track and creep up on 375 00:37:56,620 --> 00:38:02,299 things because I've carried on a lot of deer bedded down. If you're real quiet and you're 376 00:38:02,300 --> 00:38:08,459 downwind, you can get right up next to them. Yep. Now, when they jump up and start kicking. You don't 377 00:38:08,459 --> 00:38:13,579 want to be right next to them. Right. Well, I mean, they they'll I, you know, they, they hit people with 378 00:38:13,620 --> 00:38:20,299 hoods. I mean, I don't think you want to get hit with that. You know, it's all interesting and and 379 00:38:20,340 --> 00:38:27,300 you and there's people that go in the woods like you who have never seen anything. But 380 00:38:27,620 --> 00:38:33,580 what I would say if you go in the woods a lot, slow down and start looking around. Look for 381 00:38:33,580 --> 00:38:40,139 snapped off trees. Look. Look for branches that are broken down by your shoulder, but they're up 382 00:38:40,139 --> 00:38:46,959 higher. Look. Start looking and you just might be surprised how much more stuff you see when 383 00:38:46,959 --> 00:38:52,878 you're when you're looking for something else. Sure, sure. Or, you know, I'm always I'm always so 384 00:38:52,879 --> 00:38:56,999 directed out there. I'm looking for hoof prints. I'm looking for a certain kind of poop. I'm 385 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:02,799 looking for a certain kind of smell. And. And, you know, just you're kind of. It's not something you 386 00:39:02,799 --> 00:39:07,039 do on purpose, but you sort of zone in on that one thing, and you're not really paying attention to 387 00:39:07,039 --> 00:39:13,479 the other factors going on around you. Right? And what I tell people is everything knows you're 388 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:19,199 there. So when you run into like, people poop, well, that's a bear. Or is it, 389 00:39:20,679 --> 00:39:26,440 you know, how big? You know, I always used to tell my son, how big is the poop pile? If it's bigger 390 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:33,439 than yours, leave. Okay. Right. Okay. That's a good, good rule of thumb. All right? Because it's 391 00:39:33,439 --> 00:39:40,119 bigger than you. I have a lot. I have a good time in the woods. Hey, here's something else. People say 392 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:45,590 they love bacon. Well, on the woods, I leave bacon and they love peanut butter, so I leave peanut 393 00:39:45,590 --> 00:39:49,829 butter. But then everything out there in the woods, you leave peanut butter. Everything in the world 394 00:39:49,830 --> 00:39:56,269 is trying to get to that peanut butter, right? Yeah. That's a strong smell. Yeah. Right. And so I know 395 00:39:56,269 --> 00:40:03,228 guys that take peanut butter and they, uh, cut the back of it off and they nail the lid to a tree 396 00:40:03,389 --> 00:40:10,109 and they, they screw it on and they'll come back and and everything's looked out of that, uh, 397 00:40:10,790 --> 00:40:17,629 that jar, sometimes the jar is gone, the lids there, but the jar is gone. So I think a 398 00:40:17,629 --> 00:40:23,189 bear, if it was just to grab it, it would just pull the lid and everything off, right? Right. So if the 399 00:40:23,189 --> 00:40:28,469 lid is still there, that means something unscrewed it. Oh that's crazy. That just that makes the 400 00:40:28,510 --> 00:40:35,429 lilies go up my spine. What? Why? So what did that I don't know. Yeah. Could have just been a curious, 401 00:40:35,469 --> 00:40:41,270 hungry person, but it also could have not been that. Hey, it could have been a bear messing around 402 00:40:41,270 --> 00:40:46,739 with it, and it just unscrewed. Right? Um. Licking it, maybe he unscrewed it. Uh, but, you know, it just 403 00:40:46,780 --> 00:40:52,619 it's just a thought, like, okay, there's something different. Yeah. And it's fun to. It's fun to have 404 00:40:52,620 --> 00:40:58,419 those little thought experiments. Right? Like, it's just interesting. So when you see something 405 00:40:58,420 --> 00:41:04,899 different and there's usually an explanation, but there's a lot of times it doesn't make sense. It's 406 00:41:04,899 --> 00:41:10,738 a lot of things take hands. Let me ask you this one, Gibby, because I, I we're, we're running close 407 00:41:10,739 --> 00:41:16,579 to to getting, uh, on the end of our time here. And I don't want to let this question go unanswered 408 00:41:16,580 --> 00:41:21,100 by you because I've always wondered this, and I, I feel this way with, you know, we've heard a lot 409 00:41:21,100 --> 00:41:27,419 about UFOs and aliens lately. I felt this way about that. I feel the same way about, uh. Well, I'm 410 00:41:27,419 --> 00:41:33,979 curious about the way that you think the public would react if all of a sudden on TV, we wake up 411 00:41:33,980 --> 00:41:40,729 tomorrow and they say, here, this is the 100% concrete proof. You can't refute it anymore. How do 412 00:41:40,730 --> 00:41:47,729 you feel the public reacts? I, I would say this as an example. They talk about the 413 00:41:47,770 --> 00:41:54,689 Kandahar giant. You know, these big, tall, redheaded, ten, 12 foot people they ran into 414 00:41:54,729 --> 00:41:59,769 in Afghanistan. But did you know the Indians ran into the same problem when they wrote about it 415 00:42:00,050 --> 00:42:06,369 here in the United States? And they actually said they lived with them, but they were unclean and 416 00:42:06,370 --> 00:42:13,249 nasty. So what I would say is, I'm a religious guy. Is God from 417 00:42:13,250 --> 00:42:20,129 here? God's not from here. And and so where is he from? Which means 418 00:42:20,129 --> 00:42:26,209 he's an alien. He's not from Earth. Mhm. Right. And so when you say that people get it, some people 419 00:42:26,209 --> 00:42:32,969 get offended. I. God is not from this planet. He created this planet and he 420 00:42:32,970 --> 00:42:39,629 created everything here. So where does he come from. And so it's 421 00:42:39,629 --> 00:42:46,429 somewhere else. So when I look at aliens, I think it's the United States with these crazy 422 00:42:46,470 --> 00:42:52,869 ass aircraft that we have and and they and we're now finding out, you know, 423 00:42:53,350 --> 00:42:58,149 we even have a sonic weapon they just used in Venezuela. I mean, it's been around since the 90s. 424 00:42:58,870 --> 00:43:05,469 Um, and it does weird things. And we have craft that, 425 00:43:05,629 --> 00:43:11,428 that fly without sound because there's a different type of propulsion system. So how much 426 00:43:11,469 --> 00:43:18,349 is it us. Seeing. For seeing us? Yeah, it's an interesting question. And so it's 427 00:43:18,389 --> 00:43:23,269 so my question is if there are aliens coming here and I'll be just like, what? Elon Musk says, where 428 00:43:23,269 --> 00:43:29,310 are they? Why don't we see them? We have every type of telescope and and thing looking out visually, 429 00:43:29,350 --> 00:43:36,300 physically. Where where are they. Because we don't see them. Right. So do you think 430 00:43:36,340 --> 00:43:42,179 that if if we had some irrefutable proof of a of a Sasquatch or a Bigfoot, do you think the public 431 00:43:42,179 --> 00:43:48,139 would, would kind of ruin it? Uh, go out, maybe flood the forest, try to find it, try to flush it out, 432 00:43:48,179 --> 00:43:53,659 maybe ruin its habitat or something like that. That's. Yeah, that's why people don't say where 433 00:43:53,660 --> 00:44:00,299 they see them at most. Most of the time. Me? You know, why don't you look up how many states have 434 00:44:00,300 --> 00:44:05,179 rules against shooting the laws? That's interesting. I'd be surprised. You might have some 435 00:44:05,180 --> 00:44:11,779 states out there that have laws against shooting indigenous wildlife. And here's another thing. 436 00:44:12,860 --> 00:44:19,459 The government's not going to come out and say this exists. My belief is that if the government 437 00:44:19,459 --> 00:44:26,339 recognizes the fact, it says, yes, there is an indigenous bipedal species 438 00:44:26,340 --> 00:44:31,939 that's humanoid and that's living here, here and here, then what do they have to do? Do we have to 439 00:44:31,939 --> 00:44:37,649 protect it? Do we have to pass laws? I mean, this creates. And then all of a sudden now you have all 440 00:44:37,649 --> 00:44:42,889 these crazy groups going, well, there's a new other species living here. And, and they're going to try 441 00:44:42,889 --> 00:44:48,209 to make us do things. And I think it just opens up a can of worms nobody wants to deal with. Yeah. For 442 00:44:48,209 --> 00:44:53,968 sure. And and just to answer your question there, a quick Google search will tell you it says, well, no 443 00:44:53,969 --> 00:44:59,929 entire states have blanket laws against shooting Bigfoot. Skamania County, Washington has a long 444 00:44:59,969 --> 00:45:06,289 standing ordinance making it a felony to harm Sasquatch, stemming from a 1969 ordinance intended 445 00:45:06,290 --> 00:45:11,850 to partly deter armed people from shooting at perceived Bigfoot. Uh, just in case, you know, they 446 00:45:11,850 --> 00:45:16,049 were shooting at other people in the woods. Well, yeah, that's what I'm saying. You know, because 447 00:45:16,050 --> 00:45:21,289 people have a tendency to shoot it. Oh, it's something walking around and. Oh, I'm sorry, Johnny, 448 00:45:21,290 --> 00:45:26,289 I didn't mean to shoot you. Exactly. Yep. And and, uh, the state of the state of Oregon Department of 449 00:45:26,290 --> 00:45:32,589 Fish and Wildlife confirms that state laws technically do prohibit shooting Bigfoot. under 450 00:45:32,590 --> 00:45:37,668 general wildlife protection laws and indigenous wildlife protection laws. So my guess is if it 451 00:45:37,669 --> 00:45:41,949 falls under that in in the state that I'm from here in Oregon, there's probably a lot of states 452 00:45:41,949 --> 00:45:46,989 where that's true. Perhaps, you know, they don't they don't come out and say, yes, don't shoot the 453 00:45:46,989 --> 00:45:53,589 Bigfoot. Right. We don't have something that encompasses indigenous wildlife. And 454 00:45:53,590 --> 00:46:00,269 so and it's designed not to be shooting the bears and not to be shooting the, you know, people 455 00:46:00,309 --> 00:46:07,029 or Bigfoot or, or whatever it is. You know, it could well be a branch of the of 456 00:46:07,070 --> 00:46:13,869 the hominid species from way back, you know, and it's just another humanoid branch that broke 457 00:46:13,870 --> 00:46:18,549 off from us, right? Right. Oh, we broke off a it. However, that work. And you don't want to be 458 00:46:18,550 --> 00:46:21,830 shooting at those in the same way. You don't want to be shooting at a guy walking around in a 459 00:46:21,830 --> 00:46:25,909 gorilla suit out in the woods. Right? It's just not let's not point our guns at things that we don't 460 00:46:25,909 --> 00:46:32,299 understand and. Shoot it if you. Yeah, if you want to be stupid and walk around in an animal suit, 461 00:46:32,300 --> 00:46:36,499 then you probably should be shocked because you're you're really dumb. You're inviting. That. 462 00:46:37,019 --> 00:46:42,899 You're you're inviting to get shot. I mean, we have stupid people, you know, and hunters get shot by 463 00:46:43,019 --> 00:46:47,259 the hunters all the time. Yeah, it does happen. It's very unfortunate when it does, but I, I do 464 00:46:47,300 --> 00:46:54,178 personally know, actually, I know somebody that, uh, that has experience that with archery rather 465 00:46:54,179 --> 00:46:59,619 than, uh, rather than a rifle, uh, guy. I don't know which would be worse to be hit with a broadhead 466 00:46:59,620 --> 00:47:04,659 or be hit with a bullet. Uh, in this situation, it did not turn out well. Yeah, a bullet would 467 00:47:04,659 --> 00:47:09,619 probably be quicker and less painful. Because, you know, a broad head, you know, drills a one inch hole 468 00:47:09,620 --> 00:47:14,379 or bigger through you, and you're going to bleed out. Yeah, that's what it's designed to do. It's bad 469 00:47:14,379 --> 00:47:18,739 stuff. And it happens out there. There's no question. It happens every single year. It's tragic 470 00:47:18,739 --> 00:47:23,459 when it does. But it's I think a good thing to mention is like, hey, we don't want to just be 471 00:47:23,459 --> 00:47:27,138 shooting at things that we don't know what they are out in the woods. That's a general rule of 472 00:47:27,139 --> 00:47:32,570 thumb. The number in one of the rules that you learn as a kid, you know, don't shoot at noise. You 473 00:47:32,570 --> 00:47:36,769 know, you you shoot at what you can see. Shoot at what you can see. Don't shoot it. Yeah. If you can't 474 00:47:36,769 --> 00:47:43,089 identify it, don't shoot it. Yeah, 100%. So I, uh, you know, I 475 00:47:43,610 --> 00:47:48,289 and people could do whatever they want to do. But, I mean, when you look in every state and the 476 00:47:48,289 --> 00:47:54,329 number of sightings by state, it's everywhere. It's all over the place. It really. Is. And, and and so if 477 00:47:54,330 --> 00:48:00,648 you see thousands and thousands of sightings, okay, so there's going to be a percentage that aren't 478 00:48:00,649 --> 00:48:07,329 real. Okay. What about the ones that are real. So I mean that percentage that when you have State 479 00:48:07,329 --> 00:48:14,290 Patrol videotaping, when you have they don't want to come out. Uh, you listen to some of the videos. 480 00:48:14,290 --> 00:48:18,209 Hey, you need to come out. Why? There's a guy standing here looking at me. How, uh, what's he 481 00:48:18,209 --> 00:48:24,849 doing? He just standing there looking at me, and he's. He's big. He's really big. You look at people, 482 00:48:24,929 --> 00:48:31,159 see them walking through their backyard. I mean, um, we have people that work here at Cypress. Some of 483 00:48:31,159 --> 00:48:36,279 them still do. I'm not going to mention any names. Where? Up? Up in Georgia. You know, their dads are 484 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:42,879 sitting on the porch, and, um, there's a blueberry patch at the back of his property. 485 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:47,919 Bigfoot comes down there and shakes the trees. He'd go because they don't like eating the 486 00:48:47,919 --> 00:48:52,639 blueberries in the open. So they'll shake the pine trees and he'll go inside and they'll come out 487 00:48:52,639 --> 00:48:59,638 and eat. Eat the blueberries. Wow. And so, like, how do you make a story up like that? Right. 488 00:48:59,679 --> 00:49:05,039 Or why? Why do you make a story up like that? I mean, what do you get out of it? You talked about 489 00:49:05,039 --> 00:49:10,279 his dad, you know, and his his dad. And his dad hears the whistles. They'll start whistling. And at 490 00:49:10,279 --> 00:49:14,958 the time they go into the first, they shake the trees and he goes into the house. So I'm like. Man, 491 00:49:14,959 --> 00:49:21,639 and I know, I know exactly where it is. Uh, well, my my parents used to have a home 492 00:49:21,639 --> 00:49:26,300 about about ten miles away up in the mountains. So are you going to go out there to that blueberry 493 00:49:26,339 --> 00:49:31,659 patch sometime? You know, I. Well, when you read stories, people are on one side of a blueberry 494 00:49:31,700 --> 00:49:36,059 patch picking berries, and they look up and all of a sudden a Bigfoot looks up and they scare each 495 00:49:36,060 --> 00:49:42,819 other and everybody runs off. That's it. That's one strange way to end your day, right? Right. Right. 496 00:49:42,860 --> 00:49:49,459 Which is where the blueberries are. You know somebody else ate. Yeah. Um, yeah. So. But when you 497 00:49:49,459 --> 00:49:55,339 start looking at the stories, looking for all the stories, and I'm sure some people made them up. I 498 00:49:55,340 --> 00:50:01,699 mean, I I've seen one where one got injured, got shot, and this, this girl found it on the ground, 499 00:50:01,699 --> 00:50:08,419 and she took a tampon and plugged the hole. And it kind of woke up, realized it was being 500 00:50:08,419 --> 00:50:15,299 helped. And then the hunters were coming and they ran off. They ran off. Um. Is that true? 501 00:50:15,340 --> 00:50:21,860 I don't know. I mean, it's an interesting story, but. Um, no way to prove it. No way to prove it. You know, 502 00:50:21,899 --> 00:50:28,489 my thing is what? While the animal is going to let you touch it, even if it's hurt, it's it's not. So I 503 00:50:28,649 --> 00:50:33,649 kind of have skeptic about that, but. Yeah, right. I mean, that's something that you learn. Hunting is 504 00:50:33,689 --> 00:50:38,448 is something my dad taught me a long time ago. I walked up on a on the first deer I'd ever shot, 505 00:50:38,449 --> 00:50:44,529 and its eyes were open. And I was not convinced that that thing was was dead yet. And he took the 506 00:50:44,529 --> 00:50:49,369 the barrel of his gun and put it right down by the eye and said, see, there's no way that this 507 00:50:49,370 --> 00:50:54,969 thing's not going somewhere. If it's if it's still here. And I think that that speaks to your point. 508 00:50:54,970 --> 00:51:00,729 If you've got a wild animal. I always put another I when I get up close to one, if I have any 509 00:51:00,730 --> 00:51:07,249 thought that it's still got something left in it, I put another one in it. Sure. Yeah. We had we had 510 00:51:07,290 --> 00:51:12,888 been watching this one for a while, waiting for it. It was it was hit pretty good, but still it I 511 00:51:12,889 --> 00:51:17,449 think just what you're saying there that particular story I can, I can I can find 512 00:51:17,490 --> 00:51:22,198 skepticism in that story where you know that that's, that's a little bit of a stretch for that 513 00:51:22,199 --> 00:51:26,320 thing to just lay there and let. Somebody know there's a lot to more to just a lot more to the 514 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:33,239 story. But you know, any any time a while I'm gonna let you touch it. I, I, I don't believe 515 00:51:33,240 --> 00:51:40,198 it. Sure, sure. Well Gibby. Listen, I. Um this is this has been awesome, man. I, I don't want to keep 516 00:51:40,199 --> 00:51:44,320 you too long. I've already had you here longer than what I told you I was going to. And I think 517 00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:50,199 you and I can talk about this for hours, right? I mean, but I would say, just look. Look up other 518 00:51:50,199 --> 00:51:57,119 people's stories from Alaska, from fishermen seeing them on the bank, from just there. 519 00:51:57,159 --> 00:52:04,079 They're hundreds and hundreds of very, very detailed stories for sure. Well, we're going to get 520 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:08,239 more of them from you, Gibby. I feel like this is going to be the first of many times that you and 521 00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:12,919 I are going to talk on this podcast, and, and I'm just waiting for you to call me up one day and 522 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:18,159 tell me, hey, I'm coming out there to Sasquatch country, which is the Pacific Northwest, and and 523 00:52:18,159 --> 00:52:22,300 come do a little bit of trudging around in my stomping grounds, see if you can find something. 524 00:52:22,339 --> 00:52:29,259 Are you, uh, are you living right now in Oregon? Yes, I I've lived in Oregon my whole life. Um, I 525 00:52:29,459 --> 00:52:35,938 would just say people go hiking all the time. Yep. Go. Go hiking. I mean. Don't be an 526 00:52:35,939 --> 00:52:41,179 accident. It's a big down the logging trails. People run into them all the time on logging, 527 00:52:41,660 --> 00:52:46,099 logging roads. Yep. Well, you know, our Triple-A baseball team, right? Actually, it's a it's a single 528 00:52:46,100 --> 00:52:52,019 a baseball team here in, uh, in Eugene is the the mascot is the emeralds. But the actual physical 529 00:52:52,020 --> 00:52:57,619 mascot has been the Sasquatch going back for a decade now. And, uh, there's there's a lot of 530 00:52:57,620 --> 00:53:02,740 obsession with it up here. I, I lived in Mountain Home, Idaho for a while. As a kid. I used to run up 531 00:53:02,740 --> 00:53:08,859 in those mountains all the time. Okay. All right, so you're you're familiar? I ran into, uh, bear. You 532 00:53:08,860 --> 00:53:14,619 know, when you hear a bear ripping apart a log, it's pretty loud in the woods. Yes. And, uh, it makes 533 00:53:14,620 --> 00:53:21,370 you nervous because, you know, it's like looking for food and. And you're kind of food. You're kind 534 00:53:21,370 --> 00:53:28,369 of food. So, you know, carrt a 7 Magnum or any more. I carry a 300 or 1 Mac. 535 00:53:28,409 --> 00:53:33,089 Oh, my God, that's right after my heart. That's what I carry when I'm hunting elk. So great. Great 536 00:53:33,089 --> 00:53:39,249 caliber. And now I used a savage 330 Lapua magnum. Oh, so even more 537 00:53:39,249 --> 00:53:45,529 firepower. 250 grain bullet that goes as fast as a AR 538 00:53:45,570 --> 00:53:50,849 15. Well, I guess Gibby. That's good. If you're looking to take down a Chevy Silverado out there. 539 00:53:50,929 --> 00:53:56,168 I think you're loaded for it. Well, if you run into one of those brown bears, it is a Chevy Silverado. 540 00:53:56,209 --> 00:54:02,889 Yep, yep, you're exactly right. Steve Gibby Gibson. He's been driving for Cypress for 23 years. 541 00:54:03,049 --> 00:54:06,569 Uh, Gibby, it's just been awesome having you on here today, my friend. Thank you so much for 542 00:54:06,570 --> 00:54:12,329 joining us. And we'll do this again soon, okay. Roger that man. Have a good day. You too. Thank you. 543 00:54:12,889 --> 00:54:13,529 All right. 544 00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:27,559 Great stuff there from Gibby. Steve Gibson joining us to tell us about that crazy experience. Uh, and 545 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:32,839 what really kind of spurn him into, I guess you could kind of call him a Bigfoot hunter. I mean, 546 00:54:32,839 --> 00:54:37,559 he's not necessarily out there chasing him down. Uh, but if he runs into one, you can bet we're 547 00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:42,439 gonna hear about it here on the Cypress Truck Lines podcast. And I'm happy for it. Man. He's 548 00:54:42,439 --> 00:54:47,959 already been texting me videos to watch. I'm gonna check it out. Like I said, I keep an open mind. And 549 00:54:47,959 --> 00:54:54,199 this next guest joining us here is another reason that I will always keep an open mind. I am 550 00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:58,360 skeptical about all sorts of things that I see on the internet, but when I talk to somebody that 551 00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:03,999 I've met and that I trust and is telling me something happened to them, it's really hard for 552 00:55:03,999 --> 00:55:10,559 me to refute it. I don't like to call people crazy. I know these people aren't on drugs, so why? Who am 553 00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:15,580 I to tell this person that they didn't see what they saw? So let's welcome to the show here. This 554 00:55:15,580 --> 00:55:21,340 is a driver named Drew now. Drew I'm just going to keep it kind of a basic with the introduction 555 00:55:21,340 --> 00:55:26,779 here because obviously you don't work for Cypress. You and I have a preexisting relationship and 556 00:55:26,780 --> 00:55:32,139 I've heard this story before, so welcome to the show. Drew, thanks for being here today, man. I 557 00:55:32,139 --> 00:55:36,939 appreciate you coming on to tell this story. Oh, brother, I appreciate. You having me. Well, it's 558 00:55:36,939 --> 00:55:41,939 always good to talk to you, man. So we're our episode here is about cryptids and the paranormal. 559 00:55:41,939 --> 00:55:47,458 And this story that you told me has stuck with me ever since the first time I've heard it has to do 560 00:55:47,459 --> 00:55:53,859 with the black dog. Now, if you've never heard of the Black dog, uh, sort of urban myth, uh, 561 00:55:53,860 --> 00:56:00,100 around trucking. And if you ever want to go on Reddit and just type in the black dog on r slash 562 00:56:00,100 --> 00:56:05,299 truckers, you'll go down a rabbit hole and hear a lot of stories. But Drew, correct me if I'm wrong 563 00:56:05,300 --> 00:56:11,569 here in saying that the Black Dog is is basically an apparition of a black dog that a driver will 564 00:56:11,569 --> 00:56:17,929 see right before something horrific happens to them is that, you know, for better or for worse, a 565 00:56:17,929 --> 00:56:24,649 good description. Well, yeah. Yes and no. Like a lot of people will say like the black 566 00:56:24,649 --> 00:56:30,009 dog, but it could also be like really anything. It's it's your mind just playing tricks on you 567 00:56:30,050 --> 00:56:36,128 pretty much, you know, and it's from being overworked over tired, you know, and like. Yeah, you 568 00:56:36,129 --> 00:56:42,208 know, some people will say that they see like, uh, a lady in white or they'll see, like, weird things 569 00:56:42,209 --> 00:56:49,129 out of their peripheral vision that aren't there, you know. And so it generally, yes, it's like a 570 00:56:49,129 --> 00:56:55,010 black dog, but it can also be other stuff too. Okay. All right. So talk to me about where you were at 571 00:56:55,010 --> 00:57:02,009 and what happened on this fateful night. So I was. In just west of 572 00:57:02,009 --> 00:57:08,969 Broadus, Montana, hole in the Wall City and well Town. And 573 00:57:08,999 --> 00:57:15,919 I was just west of it coming in. It was late. And while I'm driving down out there, you know, it's 574 00:57:15,919 --> 00:57:22,719 out in the pitch black. No lights. No one's out there or anything. And I'm coming 575 00:57:22,719 --> 00:57:28,999 back off of a two week run out on the West Coast. And, you know, I'm just starting to get really 576 00:57:28,999 --> 00:57:35,999 tired. And. Just really exhausted. But I still had a couple hours on 577 00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:42,399 my clock, so I was like, all right, you know, we'll run it or whatever. And all of a sudden I just 578 00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:49,839 out of the corner of my eye, I saw what looked like an old time, like pioneer or 579 00:57:49,839 --> 00:57:56,720 Western guy standing on the shoulder, and it wasn't like a dark shadow. It 580 00:57:56,720 --> 00:58:02,639 wasn't like a see through kind of thing. Like it looked like a real person standing there. And 581 00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:10,749 I played it off like, okay, whatever. It was a tree that's, you know, had the bark ripped off of it or 582 00:58:10,750 --> 00:58:17,749 something, but a couple of miles down the road seeing it again. Oh, no. And seeing it again. 583 00:58:17,750 --> 00:58:23,429 And finally I was all like, all right, you know what? And that's when the whole black dog thing 584 00:58:23,430 --> 00:58:29,988 came to mind. I'm like, all right, I gotta pull off. And luckily I was coming in to Broadus, 585 00:58:30,070 --> 00:58:36,829 Montana, and I pulled off there, and there's city there. There. Town streets have big 586 00:58:37,070 --> 00:58:42,749 shoulders on them where people can park their cars, go to the businesses and pretty sure trucks 587 00:58:42,750 --> 00:58:49,229 can't park there. Well, I. Sure as the. Hell did I parked there and I shut her down for the 588 00:58:49,229 --> 00:58:56,189 night. And that was a Wednesday night. And when I woke 589 00:58:56,189 --> 00:59:03,069 up in the morning, I drove all the ways into Iowa, which was about a nine and a 590 00:59:03,069 --> 00:59:09,489 half, ten hour drive. Uh, had to shut down because the place I was 591 00:59:09,489 --> 00:59:16,290 delivering to was closed. And Friday morning I went and delivered to him, called my 592 00:59:16,290 --> 00:59:21,408 dispatcher, and I'm supposed to work through Saturday, come home Saturday night. And I wasn't 593 00:59:21,409 --> 00:59:27,129 that far from home. I was like maybe an hour and a half from home. And I told him I was like, you know, 594 00:59:27,169 --> 00:59:33,889 this is what happened, and I'm going home. And I was at home by like 10 595 00:59:33,889 --> 00:59:39,889 a.m. on a Friday, and I pretty much just shut my phone off and 596 00:59:40,169 --> 00:59:46,969 just no contact. Stayed at home and didn't drive anywhere because like you were saying, the 597 00:59:46,970 --> 00:59:53,929 whole black dog thing is a premonition that you know something bad is going to 598 00:59:53,970 --> 01:00:00,529 come. So yeah, I took that whole weekend off I wasn't about to play with, uh, that kind of 599 01:00:00,569 --> 01:00:07,560 voodoo. I totally understand, man. and you know to. To take it from the the paranormal to 600 01:00:07,599 --> 01:00:12,679 sort of the practical here. I think that, you know, just based on what you're saying, you got a couple 601 01:00:12,719 --> 01:00:16,919 hours left on your clock. You could have kept going if you'd have wanted to. But the safer 602 01:00:16,919 --> 01:00:22,159 decision, regardless of what you saw, was to shut it down because maybe you saw something. Maybe 603 01:00:22,159 --> 01:00:27,319 there was a weird period piece, like apparition standing on the side of the road, and that was 604 01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:32,478 supposed to be a warning to you that you need to pull off. Or maybe you just understood that, hey, if 605 01:00:32,479 --> 01:00:37,159 I'm if this stuff showing up in my peripheral, I'm too tired to be driving, so I need to shut it down. 606 01:00:37,159 --> 01:00:43,079 And like, whether or not there's this, this is a real thing or something that's just fantastical. 607 01:00:43,079 --> 01:00:47,240 And in all of our minds, I think that the good point is you made the right decision here. You 608 01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:54,039 made a safety decision. Time to shut down and get some rest. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, that's. That that. 609 01:00:54,039 --> 01:00:59,359 Really is kind of mild compared to some other stories I've heard. Like some of the stories I 610 01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:05,749 heard, they're crazy like people have said that they've actually interacted with their quote 611 01:01:05,750 --> 01:01:12,309 unquote black dog and like, talk to them and come to find out, there's no one there. 612 01:01:12,310 --> 01:01:19,188 And, you know, it's yeah, it's a whole thing. It's the whole trucker myth kind of thing. But, you know, 613 01:01:19,229 --> 01:01:24,909 there's got to be some, uh, validity behind it because, you know, there's too many stories out 614 01:01:24,909 --> 01:01:31,749 there of it happening. So, yeah, like if anyone is seeing anything like that, just take the 615 01:01:31,750 --> 01:01:38,149 safe bet and just get off the road completely. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's great advice, man. And 616 01:01:38,189 --> 01:01:44,349 also, uh, bring an extra thing of Lysol wipes for your seat, because if you do see something like 617 01:01:44,349 --> 01:01:50,670 that out there, you might need to clean up. Man, I know I would. I'll tell you. Like. I've got so many 618 01:01:50,670 --> 01:01:55,709 friends that have had certain experiences like this. We just talked to to Steve Gibson about his 619 01:01:55,710 --> 01:02:01,009 experience where he's standing 15ft from something. He doesn't know what it is, but it's big 620 01:02:01,009 --> 01:02:07,889 and it's in the woods and like that, if that happened to me, I would be reduced to a puddle of 621 01:02:07,890 --> 01:02:12,849 of a screaming 41 year old man. That's all I would do is just scream it, you know? And, and Steve told 622 01:02:12,850 --> 01:02:17,850 us like, hey, when you're thinking about this from like a, a biological standpoint of like, hunters 623 01:02:17,850 --> 01:02:24,849 and prey don't run like that. That introduces a chase scenario. Like, oh, sorry, Steve, I'm 624 01:02:24,849 --> 01:02:30,449 sprinting. I will never have run as fast as I run after I see something like what you have seen. So 625 01:02:30,490 --> 01:02:35,449 I gotta tip my hat to you, man, to be able to keep your head on straight in a scenario like that is, 626 01:02:35,490 --> 01:02:42,449 uh, is is tough work and you were able to do it and stay safe. Yeah. Always. Well, Drew, I, I 627 01:02:42,450 --> 01:02:48,928 can't thank you enough, man. This is a great story. And, uh, you know, I, I will I will always think back 628 01:02:48,929 --> 01:02:54,569 to your weird pioneer guy and not the fact that he showed up once, but he just kept showing up, um, 629 01:02:54,610 --> 01:03:01,399 in in a hole in the wall town. In a hole in the wall state, by the way. Uh, you can't get much more 630 01:03:01,399 --> 01:03:07,439 remote than where you were, so. Oh, man. Out in the middle of nowhere. You ain't seen darkness, though. 631 01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:13,199 You've been out in the middle of Montana. Yep. Yep. Big sky country man. Well, Drew, uh, thank you so 632 01:03:13,199 --> 01:03:17,840 much for coming on the Cypress Truck Lines podcast today to tell your story. Be safe out 633 01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:23,039 there, as always, man. And, uh, we'll talk to you again soon. Always appreciate the time. Oh, yeah. 634 01:03:23,079 --> 01:03:25,639 Brother. No problem. Stay cool like the breeze. 635 01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:39,759 That's a great way to sign off there from Drew. Always love having him into tell that story. And 636 01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:44,479 I'm honest with you guys when I say I do not think that I would deal well in these situations. 637 01:03:44,479 --> 01:03:51,320 Like I got a bad enough problem using a public restroom. I don't think if I ran face to face 638 01:03:51,439 --> 01:03:56,709 into a cryptid or something paranormal, something that I couldn't explain that I would be worth a 639 01:03:56,710 --> 01:04:02,109 plug nickel after that. But it's been a lot of fun to hear these stories today, and a lot of fun to 640 01:04:02,110 --> 01:04:07,469 be open minded and take from it what you will. That's kind of what the theme of this episode has 641 01:04:07,469 --> 01:04:14,469 been. I love the way that Steve Gibson, Gibby, as we've called him, uh, basically said, look, you 642 01:04:14,469 --> 01:04:21,070 can't tell me what I saw. And a lot the same with Drew. Like, I'm, I'm not arguing with you guys, but 643 01:04:21,070 --> 01:04:26,388 these guys are convinced that they saw something. So who am I to tell them they didn't know one? 644 01:04:26,389 --> 01:04:30,829 That's the answer to that question. Uh, it's not easy to talk about these things either. You know, 645 01:04:30,869 --> 01:04:37,550 the reason that so many, uh, reported sightings, uh, are, I guess, not reported. So many 646 01:04:37,550 --> 01:04:42,509 sightings go unreported, is what I want to say there is, because people don't want to be 647 01:04:42,509 --> 01:04:49,070 chastised by their family or their workplace or their colleagues or the local paper or whoever 648 01:04:49,070 --> 01:04:54,899 finds out about them having some sort of experience. And that's kind of a bum deal, Like, you 649 01:04:54,899 --> 01:05:01,419 know, I get it, back in the 60s, it was easier to say, oh, she's crazy, or oh, that guy's crazy. I think 650 01:05:01,419 --> 01:05:07,699 that we've moved a little bit past that in 2025. Now, is everybody meant to be listened to and 651 01:05:07,699 --> 01:05:14,219 believed? I think that's up for debate. I think, yeah, there are some people out there that are a 652 01:05:14,219 --> 01:05:19,259 little disconnected from reality and they sometimes have, you know, podcasts, uh, they get 653 01:05:19,260 --> 01:05:25,139 platformed in some way, shape or form. I also think that there's a lot of regular 9 to 5 people 654 01:05:25,139 --> 01:05:30,299 running around out there. And every now and then, one of them, who might be a truck driver, is 655 01:05:30,300 --> 01:05:35,820 cruising down the road, and they see something that they can't explain. Uh, it happens, man. That's 656 01:05:35,820 --> 01:05:40,899 that's life. That's human nature. Uh, and I'm glad that we get to talk about it here on the Cypress 657 01:05:40,900 --> 01:05:46,178 Truck Lines podcast. So thank you for joining me today. Uh, flexed our fun muscle here a little bit. 658 01:05:46,219 --> 01:05:52,478 You know, we are all about safety, all about keeping things, uh, you know, in line in the Cypress 659 01:05:52,519 --> 01:05:58,199 way. Right. You guys all went through CTC. You know that there's a a standard operating procedure 660 01:05:58,199 --> 01:06:02,719 around here. And we are going to toe that line. We are going to stay right down the middle with it 661 01:06:02,719 --> 01:06:08,239 on this podcast. But every now and then we get the ability to color outside the lines a bit and talk 662 01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:14,039 about something that maybe isn't directly related to trucking. And, uh, today was one of those days. So 663 01:06:14,039 --> 01:06:19,239 we look forward to more of those in the future and more real good trucking content coming your 664 01:06:19,239 --> 01:06:25,120 way every week right here on the Cypress Truck Lines podcast. I've been Marcus, you've been 665 01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:31,599 awesome for clicking download today. Uh, stay safe out there. We'll talk to you next week.