Stephen Henderson: A Story of Resilience

Stephen Henderson: A Story of Resilience
Released 06/03/2026
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Some people find trucking because they love the road. Some find it because they need the money. And some find it because everything else fell apart at the same time and the road was the only thing left that made sense. Stephen Henderson is that third kind of driver. In Episode 22 of the Cypress Truck Lines Podcast, Stephen sits down with Marcus to tell his story from start to finish. A career in sales, management, and telecoms that looked solid from the outside. A grandfather-in-law lost. His wife, diagnosed with breast cancer two weeks later. A job and benefits that were gone two weeks after that. Addiction issues make an already impossible situation even harder to navigate. And then somehow through all of it a CDL, a truck, and Cypress Truck Lines waiting on the other side. His wife made a full recovery. Stephen found a career he loves. And the relentlessly positive attitude he brings to this conversation will make you rethink whatever you are dealing with right now. This is not a sad episode. It is one of the most hopeful ones we have ever made. New episodes drop every Wednesday. Subscribe now and listen to this one twice.

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Sometimes trucking becomes a job and sometimes it becomes the thing that catches you when life falls apart all at once and Stephen Henderson found it the second way, coming to the road from a career in sales, management, and telecoms after losing his father-in-law, watching his wife receive a breast cancer diagnosis two weeks later, losing his job and benefits two weeks after that, and navigating addiction issues on top of all of it, only to find a CDL, a truck, and Cypress Truck Lines waiting on the other side of the hardest stretch of his life. In Episode 22 of the Cypress Truck Lines Podcast Marcus says he recorded the intro out of order because he would not have been able to sell this episode without having heard it first — and then spent over an hour proving he did not need to sell it at all. His wife made a full recovery. Stephen found a career he loves. And the relentlessly positive attitude he brings to this conversation will make you rethink whatever you are carrying right now.

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The hand Stephen was dealt: Marcus describes it in the intro as a full hand of problems. In the span of about four weeks Stephen lost his father-in-law, watched his wife receive a breast cancer diagnosis, lost his job, lost his benefits, and was actively navigating addiction issues at the same time. Any one of those things alone would have been enough to break most people. All of them at once is the kind of convergence that either defines you or destroys you. For Stephen it defined him.

The decision to get a CDL: Stephen did not come from trucking. He had no background in it, no family connection to it, and no obvious reason to think it was the answer. But when you lose a job with benefits while your wife is going through cancer treatment the calculus changes fast. Stephen needed income. He needed flexibility. He needed something that could give him the ability to provide while still being present for the person who needed him most. The CDL was the answer to a question he had never thought to ask before that moment.

The addiction piece and why it matters that Stephen said it out loud: Marcus addresses this directly in the outro and it is one of the most important moments of the whole episode. Stephen said the word. He did not dance around it or euphemize it or minimize it. He said he was struggling with addiction and he was at the bottom and he decided he wanted to help himself. Marcus notes from personal experience with loved ones that there is no helping yourself with addiction until you decide you want to. Stephen made that decision. Saying it out loud on a podcast in front of thousands of listeners takes a kind of courage that most people do not have.

Eminem and one shot one opportunity: It comes up organically in the conversation and Marcus leans into it in the outro with a genuine laugh. Stephen referenced the Eminem line about one shot and one opportunity in the context of his own life and it fit perfectly. Marcus promises to reference it again every time it comes up because some things are just too good not to. The moment is funny. The point underneath it is not. Stephen had one shot. He took it.

Cypress as the opportunity not the rescuer: Marcus makes a careful and important distinction in the outro that reframes the whole episode. Cypress did not rescue Stephen. Cypress was there as an opportunity before they ever knew what he was dealing with in his personal life. Stephen showed up. Stephen did the work. Stephen made the decisions. What Cypress gave him was a place where those decisions could lead somewhere real. That distinction matters because it puts the credit where it belongs — on Stephen.

We are all just getting through it: Marcus closes Episode 22 with one of the most personal outros the show has produced. He talks about a conversation he had recently with someone he had not spoken to in 15 or 20 years and what they landed on together — that when we were kids we thought the adults had it figured out. And then you become one of those adults and you realize everybody is just navigating in the best way they know how. There are potholes. There is construction. Sometimes you stop moving forward for years at a time. The point is how you navigate it and what keeps you moving. For Stephen it was his wife. For a lot of Cypress drivers it is their families. For Marcus it is the stories that keep coming through the door every single Wednesday.

From The Host

“I told Stephen off the air that this story deserved to be told. And then I got on the air and spent an hour and fifteen minutes proving it. There is something that happens when somebody sits down and just tells you the truth about their life without flinching. Stephen did that. He said the hard words. He talked about the bottom. He talked about what it took to get off it. And he did all of it with this relentless positivity that I cannot fully explain except to say that it is real and you can feel it through the audio. I feel privileged every single week that I get to sit here and listen to these stories. This one is in a different category. I hope you listen to it more than once.” — Marcus Bridges, Host

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1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,239 How's the weather out there? Cypress and Sun belt. Welcome into the Cypress Truck Lines podcast. I'm 2 00:00:06,239 --> 00:00:12,160 your host, Marcus. Thank you so much for joining us today. Every single one of you that clicks that 3 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:17,959 download or listen button every single day, uh, you're the reason that we're here. And, uh, those of 4 00:00:17,959 --> 00:00:23,800 you that continue to click and enjoy the content, we greatly appreciate you. Do us a favor out there. 5 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:28,720 Just tell a friend, you can tell a friend from Cypress. You can tell a friend from Sun Belt. You 6 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:33,200 can tell a friend from outside of the company altogether. We just like it that people are 7 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:39,200 enjoying the content, and we want to bring you more content that you want to hear. So when you're 8 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:45,120 over at our website, which is podcast.cypresstruck.com, make sure you make use of that button 9 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:50,120 where you can send me a message if you want to talk about anything. And I do mean anything as 10 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:55,800 this episode that we're about to bring you will prove we can make it happen. That's what we're all 11 00:00:55,800 --> 00:01:02,600 about. Real stories, real experience. What's going on out there? What are you dealing with? Um, and 12 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:07,440 and also, sometimes we get to have a little bit of fun. We get to get a little bit outside the 13 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:13,360 trucking box on this episode or on this podcast. And that's something that this episode today is 14 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:18,480 going to do. Now, I won't say that we're in here having fun today. We're about to tell you a very 15 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:25,200 powerful story, uh, a story that will move you, especially if you can relate to any different 16 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:31,600 part of it. And let me tell you, there's a lot to it. Um, I actually, before, uh, getting on with our 17 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:37,839 driver that we're bringing on here in just a few minutes, I had no idea the layers to this story, 18 00:01:37,839 --> 00:01:43,360 and we got to peel it back like the layers of an onion. And, uh, I'll tell you right now, this intro 19 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:48,800 is going to be really short. Our conversation went over an hour. It's not necessarily something that 20 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:54,480 I tried to do here on the show. I like to keep the conversations, uh, under an hour so that we can 21 00:01:54,480 --> 00:02:00,009 have a little bit of time to take up any homework or, you know, wrap the show up at the end, but I 22 00:02:00,009 --> 00:02:05,289 don't care. We're going to run long on this one because this is such a good story. It warrants 23 00:02:05,289 --> 00:02:10,649 every single second that we spent on the phone together. And to be honest with you, I could 24 00:02:10,649 --> 00:02:17,329 probably dedicate 2 to 3 more episodes to just telling more about this story, digging in deeper. 25 00:02:17,329 --> 00:02:23,129 But as it sits right here, I just finished the interview and like I've said before, sometimes 26 00:02:23,130 --> 00:02:29,809 I'll record these segments out of order, and today is a perfect, shining example of why I 27 00:02:29,809 --> 00:02:35,449 record them out of order. I would not have been able to sell this episode to you in the intro 28 00:02:35,449 --> 00:02:42,409 without having known what the story entails, and, um, I, I don't need to sell it to you, to 29 00:02:42,449 --> 00:02:48,369 be honest with you. If you if you listen past the little musical interlude and into the intro, 30 00:02:48,410 --> 00:02:54,089 you're going to be hooked and you're going to sit here for an entire hour listening, I promise you 31 00:02:54,089 --> 00:02:59,929 that. So I don't want to give a bunch away about what's coming up. Okay. I'll tell you. I've got a 32 00:02:59,929 --> 00:03:06,129 driver. He's here to tell a story. It's a story that he experienced personally, and it's big. 33 00:03:06,169 --> 00:03:12,529 That's all I'll say. As you're listening to it, though, I want you to think about your own life. 34 00:03:12,529 --> 00:03:18,289 And I want you to think about a time when you didn't think you had control, but you really did. I 35 00:03:18,289 --> 00:03:23,369 want you to think about the time when you were at rock bottom, and you didn't think you were coming 36 00:03:23,369 --> 00:03:29,329 off rock bottom, but you did. I want you to think about a time where a loved one that meant so much 37 00:03:29,329 --> 00:03:36,088 to you was stricken with something, um, almost unthinkable, and how you would go 38 00:03:36,089 --> 00:03:41,129 about supporting that person. Maybe it's already happened to you. Maybe you already have these 39 00:03:41,130 --> 00:03:46,449 answers in your head. That's great. You're going to be able to relate to this next story better than 40 00:03:46,449 --> 00:03:52,369 most. But for those of you that haven't been through some of these things, think about how you 41 00:03:52,369 --> 00:03:57,329 would go about it. Think about what you would do in this situation, and that's where you're really 42 00:03:57,329 --> 00:04:01,409 going to get the meat of this episode. That's where you're going to be able to take something 43 00:04:01,409 --> 00:04:08,249 from it. And um, aside from that, I can just say, sit back, buckle up, man, if you've got some 44 00:04:08,250 --> 00:04:14,529 windshield time in front of you right now, you have found the best episode to listen to today, uh, 45 00:04:14,529 --> 00:04:20,209 of the Cypress Truck Lines podcast. So buckle up, strap in, make sure you got some X's in your 46 00:04:20,209 --> 00:04:25,089 straps. Make sure your corners are protected. Um, we're not going to shift the load at all here 47 00:04:25,089 --> 00:04:32,089 today. We're going right down the middle with a human interest story. All right, a true story right 48 00:04:32,089 --> 00:04:36,929 from the mouth of the guy who lived it. So let's bring him in here right now. Without any further 49 00:04:36,929 --> 00:04:43,690 ado. Count down to the 50 00:04:43,690 --> 00:04:50,569 Cypress Truck Lines podcast starts now. Your number one 51 00:04:50,570 --> 00:04:57,539 professional flatbed podcast here to deliver stories, safety updates and company news directly 52 00:04:57,540 --> 00:05:01,259 to your ears. Let's get down to business. 53 00:05:09,820 --> 00:05:15,259 All right. Welcome back into the Cypress Truck Lines podcast here. Uh, this segment is going to be 54 00:05:15,260 --> 00:05:20,620 a very special one. You heard me say in the open, we got a really cool story to tell here. And, um, 55 00:05:20,620 --> 00:05:25,939 you know, I think that this story kind of highlights that sometimes trucking just doesn't 56 00:05:25,939 --> 00:05:32,739 become a job. Sometimes it becomes the thing that catches somebody when life falls apart in one way, 57 00:05:32,739 --> 00:05:39,099 shape or form. And, uh, this next guest that we have to bring on here, I'm tripping over my tongue 58 00:05:39,100 --> 00:05:43,419 because I'm so excited to get him on to tell this story. Uh, let's welcome to the show, Stephen 59 00:05:43,420 --> 00:05:48,979 Henderson. He's a Cypress driver. Stephen, thank you so much for being here today, my friend. Thank you 60 00:05:48,980 --> 00:05:54,339 so much, Marcus. Glad to be here. Hey, I can tell. Man. And I'm so excited for you to come on and tell 61 00:05:54,339 --> 00:05:58,939 your story here real quick. I always like to get a little bit of background for my drivers when we 62 00:05:58,940 --> 00:06:04,739 have them on, so that the drivers listening can, uh, maybe put a name to a voice or, uh, maybe find 63 00:06:04,780 --> 00:06:09,379 somebody that they want to meet later on down the road. Uh, so, Stephen, how long have you been driving 64 00:06:09,379 --> 00:06:15,979 for Cypress and, uh, which lane are you in? You regional OTR? So I've been with Cypress for just 65 00:06:15,980 --> 00:06:21,219 shy of four years. September will be my four year mark and I am currently over the road. I started 66 00:06:21,219 --> 00:06:26,099 as a South East Regional driver after about a year and a half, maybe a year, year and a half went 67 00:06:26,099 --> 00:06:31,179 over the road and we are just about to turn a corner to go be a Texas regional driver. Oh wow. 68 00:06:31,179 --> 00:06:35,619 Okay. Very nice. So you've got a lot of experience out there running the different lanes. And and I 69 00:06:35,619 --> 00:06:39,619 know that's kind of par for the course with most guys that join Cypress, right. They kind of start 70 00:06:39,619 --> 00:06:46,299 out in that regional and can move to OTR later on if, if everything goes well. Right. Yeah, absolutely. 71 00:06:46,299 --> 00:06:50,659 It's kind of you, you prove yourself to make sure that you don't need a whole lot of assistance out 72 00:06:50,700 --> 00:06:56,858 on the road, because there's times that you may be in Michigan or Iowa, Ohio, and you're the only 73 00:06:56,859 --> 00:07:02,780 Cypress driver and maybe a 4 or 500 mile radius. So you've got to be able to know what you're doing 74 00:07:02,780 --> 00:07:07,779 in order to not get stuck in a precarious situation. Yeah. That's interesting. I didn't know 75 00:07:07,779 --> 00:07:11,899 that you might be the only guy for that big of a radius. I guess if I ever see any of you out here 76 00:07:11,900 --> 00:07:16,379 in Oregon, I'll assume you're the only one on this side of the Mississippi. Is actually probably the 77 00:07:16,380 --> 00:07:21,820 way I would think of it. Right. Fairly close. You know, we do have a Texas regional area where 78 00:07:21,820 --> 00:07:27,259 there's, I don't know, 2025 drivers sometimes. You know, I was out in Colorado. I think that's as of 79 00:07:27,260 --> 00:07:32,259 right now, probably the furthest west we go. Okay. Is uh, I was in southwest Colorado just a few 80 00:07:32,259 --> 00:07:37,579 months ago, and I guarantee I was the only one in Colorado or New Mexico at the time. Okay, gotcha. So 81 00:07:37,579 --> 00:07:42,379 maybe we'll say this side of the Rockies is a better way to put it. Yeah. If you find one of us 82 00:07:42,379 --> 00:07:46,179 that side of the Rockies, um, you should be giving all of us a call because we're going to be 83 00:07:46,179 --> 00:07:50,590 jealous if someone got to go out that far. I hear you, okay. All right, well, I'll keep my eyes peeled, 84 00:07:50,590 --> 00:07:55,389 man. I always do whenever I'm out on the road. I'm looking because that's going to be like a like a 85 00:07:55,390 --> 00:08:00,709 needle in the haystack moment, right? If I were to get that lucky to see a cypress truck in the wild. 86 00:08:00,749 --> 00:08:05,429 Uh, man, I'm throwing a party, and we're definitely doing an episode about it, that's for sure. So 87 00:08:06,549 --> 00:08:11,429 absolutely, a live episode in Oregon would be great. Yeah, for sure, for sure. And and listen, I 88 00:08:11,429 --> 00:08:16,190 tell I've told drivers on here before, if you are cruising up and down the I-5 corridor and you're 89 00:08:16,190 --> 00:08:22,749 going to be in the central part of Oregon on I-5 when you hit Eugene, take a 10 to 15 minute break. 90 00:08:22,750 --> 00:08:27,109 I'll come out and buy you a cup of coffee, I promise you. But again, we know that that's pretty 91 00:08:27,109 --> 00:08:32,229 rare if it ever happens. Uh, we'll try to make something happen with it, but that's not why we're 92 00:08:32,229 --> 00:08:37,468 here today. I digress, as I do, I find these tangents and rabbit holes. Steven, welcome to the 93 00:08:37,469 --> 00:08:43,109 show. Uh, that's just part of it. But we have a very focused reason for bringing you on the show today. 94 00:08:43,109 --> 00:08:49,949 And, uh, I want to let you tell this story from the word go? Um, so maybe talk to me a little bit about, 95 00:08:49,950 --> 00:08:55,629 uh, before trucking entered the picture. Uh, where were you at in life? What were you doing? And, uh. 96 00:08:55,630 --> 00:09:02,429 And what happened? Yeah. So I won't throw any names out there, but, uh, I was working for a couple of, uh, 97 00:09:02,430 --> 00:09:07,909 telecom giants. We've all heard of them. We know who they are. And, uh, I kind of know a lot of 98 00:09:07,909 --> 00:09:13,468 things in the sales background. I've been, uh, either in sales, direct sales, uh, sales management 99 00:09:13,469 --> 00:09:19,709 or general management and restaurants even kind of, uh, for the better part of about two decades. Um, 100 00:09:19,710 --> 00:09:26,669 but most recently before, um, before trucking, I was working for a telecom giant. And, uh, I'll take you 101 00:09:26,669 --> 00:09:32,830 back about four years ago this summer. Matter of fact, almost four years ago to the day, um, my wife 102 00:09:32,830 --> 00:09:36,709 and I were living in Florida and living in the Panhandle. You know, we're a stone's throw from 103 00:09:36,710 --> 00:09:42,668 both Alabama and Georgia. So it's not the typical Florida like people. Think about it. The woods. Um, 104 00:09:42,669 --> 00:09:48,520 you know, we're we're 50 to 60 miles from the beach. Um, so it's kind of the backwoods area, and 105 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:53,039 we're living on property that we had gained from her grandparents. We were living out there to help 106 00:09:53,039 --> 00:09:58,880 them. You know, they were we were the only family members within about a six hour range from from 107 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:04,719 the grandparents. So, um, we were living in Texas at the time. We decided, hey, the job is allowing me to 108 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,639 transfer out there. I was able to get a promotion and get a different job. And so we're living the 109 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:14,959 high life. We got a brand new house. Everything is going great. Um, and in the summer of 110 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:21,639 2022, my wife's grandfather passed away. And, um, it was it was really difficult, you know, 111 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:27,918 that she'd cut her teeth on this property, so to speak. Um, grew up out there, and, um, and grandpa was 112 00:10:27,919 --> 00:10:34,359 gone. Yeah. Um, on top of all that, within just a few weeks of that happening, we 113 00:10:34,359 --> 00:10:39,479 got we got the call. Um, there was something unusual going on, so we went to the doctor to get 114 00:10:39,479 --> 00:10:45,719 it checked out. And after biopsy, my wife at 34 years old, was diagnosed with breast cancer. Oh, God. 115 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:52,759 I can't even imagine. Man 34. That's really young for breast cancer. It is. It was she. She was a rare 116 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:59,360 case. And, um, it it kind of hit us really hard. We went and got the biopsy results. She 117 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:05,999 actually told me after I'd come home, she wanted to tell me face to face and, um, you know, again, one 118 00:11:05,999 --> 00:11:11,320 of the, the places I was working had really good insurance, and she made me make her a promise, 119 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:18,240 Marcus. And it was to not lose my job. And, uh, within another few weeks, 120 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:22,319 you know, grandpa's funeral had passed, and we're trying to get things in line to figure out what 121 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:28,760 to do with her job. I'm sorry. With her, with her diagnosis. And then my job. 122 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:36,439 The one thing that I promised her. I broke my promise, and I lost my job, and we're in a brand 123 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:42,719 new house. My wife is very dependent right now on me to be able to provide her insurance. And 124 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:49,999 and we lost the only income that we had didn't know what to do. And that is so 125 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:55,039 tough, man. I can't imagine those, you know, it's hard enough when it's one thing. It's hard enough 126 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:59,158 when it's grandpa. We're losing. We're losing kind of the cornerstone of the family here. Somebody 127 00:11:59,159 --> 00:12:05,799 that we've known for so long. But to pile on top of that, you know, your wife's diagnosis, which is 128 00:12:05,799 --> 00:12:12,399 just absolutely gutting. I can't imagine how you felt when you got that phone call. Uh, and then on 129 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:18,239 top of that, we talk about a life event, like the loss of not just a job, Stephen, but a career. What 130 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:22,879 was going through your mind during all of this? I mean, how are you keeping yourself on the level? 131 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:28,359 You know, I'm going to add a little bit more fuel to this fire. Marcus. Um, at the time, I was also 132 00:12:28,359 --> 00:12:32,839 battling some addiction issues. It wasn't it wasn't, uh, drugs or alcohol. And to be sensitive to 133 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:38,439 the listeners, I was going places on the internet that a married man should go. I. Hear you. And so I 134 00:12:38,439 --> 00:12:42,770 was trying to be the one to dictate my happiness. I said, you know what? I'm in the driver's seat. I 135 00:12:42,770 --> 00:12:48,529 could do this. Well, God humbled me really, really fast and made me realize I'm not in control. And 136 00:12:48,530 --> 00:12:54,010 the second I try to control things is the second that things are really going to get messed up. So 137 00:12:54,010 --> 00:12:59,530 I was kind of just in a state of shock. You know, they say you can't go up until you're at the 138 00:12:59,530 --> 00:13:02,969 bottom of the barrel. And that's exactly what I felt like. I was at the absolute bottom of the 139 00:13:02,969 --> 00:13:08,449 barrel. I didn't know what to do or where to go. Wow. And and I'm sure, you know, you're you're 140 00:13:08,449 --> 00:13:13,049 trying to be your wife's support system. You're trying to be that rock. You know, that's why you 141 00:13:13,090 --> 00:13:17,848 marry someone. That's why you get into a long term, committed relationship with someone is because 142 00:13:17,849 --> 00:13:24,129 they offer you that emotional support that makes you a better person. You're trying to be her rock 143 00:13:24,129 --> 00:13:28,969 right now, but you're also going through some things that make it really tough to be your rock. 144 00:13:29,090 --> 00:13:33,848 Um, I assume that your wife kind of stepped up and helped you pull yourself off the bottom of the 145 00:13:33,849 --> 00:13:40,809 barrel as well. Can you talk about that a little bit? My wife is a saint. She. She 146 00:13:40,809 --> 00:13:46,809 is put up with my stuff. Um, in June 9th. I know you test everybody on the podcast, so here's here's 147 00:13:46,810 --> 00:13:51,329 the answer to your test before you even answer the question. June 9th will be 15 years married. 148 00:13:51,369 --> 00:13:56,329 Wow. And so, um, we've gone through a separation a couple of times. You know, we've been through some 149 00:13:56,330 --> 00:14:02,009 rocky spots, but at the end of the day, we hit our knees in prayer and we take everything to God. And 150 00:14:02,010 --> 00:14:07,129 God is the one that's been the glue to keep us together. So, um, she's had to put up with it. And 151 00:14:07,130 --> 00:14:11,569 and if I had to describe her in one word, she would be a saint. She's. She's an absolute miracle 152 00:14:11,570 --> 00:14:16,929 of a wine. Hey, it sounds like it, man. Well, congratulations on 15 years coming up here. Uh, you 153 00:14:16,929 --> 00:14:23,090 said June 9th. June 9th? Yes, sir. That's very cool, man. So much can happen in 15 years. And you never 154 00:14:23,090 --> 00:14:27,649 really stopped to think about it while it's happening, you always look back on it, right? Kind 155 00:14:27,650 --> 00:14:33,529 of like we are today. We're telling the story. But, uh, being in the thick of it, I can only imagine, uh, 156 00:14:33,530 --> 00:14:38,650 that you guys being able to lean on each other like that really helped out because she's got all 157 00:14:38,650 --> 00:14:44,569 that. I mean, I can't even imagine what it must be like to get that diagnosis for your wife, but then 158 00:14:44,570 --> 00:14:50,450 again, to get it for herself. Like you have to deal with what emotions you're going through, thinking 159 00:14:50,450 --> 00:14:55,488 about what she's going through. She's got to go through those same emotions about herself. It's 160 00:14:55,489 --> 00:15:00,089 just, I'm I'm starting to sweat, to be honest with you. We've only been talking here for about ten 161 00:15:00,090 --> 00:15:04,449 minutes, and I'm I'm starting to feel the pressure. This story make me sweat a little bit, and that's 162 00:15:04,450 --> 00:15:09,409 a good thing. That means that I'm feeling the feelings here. Um, but, Stephen, I just can't even 163 00:15:09,409 --> 00:15:14,929 imagine how. So how do you want to talk about how you lost the job? Or just do you want to talk 164 00:15:14,970 --> 00:15:20,890 about from losing the job forward and how you dealt with all the rest of this stuff? Because 165 00:15:20,890 --> 00:15:25,369 this is your story. I'm only wanting you to tell the parts of it that that you think you need to 166 00:15:25,369 --> 00:15:30,009 tell. So I I'm not I don't want to ask any questions that might go over a line or anything. 167 00:15:30,609 --> 00:15:37,499 No, I think it's actually a great way to tie in in in the way this all works. So I was not doing 168 00:15:37,499 --> 00:15:44,299 anything. Uh, you know, obviously, obviously I'm bad enough to get my, uh, to lose my job, but it was I 169 00:15:44,300 --> 00:15:50,979 got really tied up with busy work. I was in line for a giant promotion. Uh, the job that I was 170 00:15:50,979 --> 00:15:57,340 doing is I was a business sales rep, and I was also in charge of about 30 or 40 retail stores 171 00:15:57,340 --> 00:16:03,099 for their business sales. And I got really good at being really busy doing other things for other 172 00:16:03,099 --> 00:16:09,979 people that weren't necessarily in my line of work. Ah, so building Excel spreadsheets or, um, 173 00:16:10,059 --> 00:16:14,819 you know, they basically don't, don't get paralysis by analysis. And that man, that was my that was my 174 00:16:14,820 --> 00:16:21,258 lane. I, I'm an ops guy. I loved that kind of stuff. And that's where I thrived. But, uh, I got so busy 175 00:16:21,300 --> 00:16:25,779 doing that that I wasn't focusing in on sales targets and those things. Um, so it wasn't 176 00:16:25,780 --> 00:16:32,179 necessarily a performance related issue as much as it was. Um, I kind of just became disconnected. 177 00:16:33,219 --> 00:16:38,659 Which nobody's really surprised when that happens to somebody that goes through what you and your 178 00:16:38,659 --> 00:16:44,219 wife went through, right? I mean, I think that's a story as old as time. You can always, uh, put on a 179 00:16:44,220 --> 00:16:48,940 good face when you go to do your job. But let's face it, at the end of the day, what's at home 180 00:16:48,940 --> 00:16:55,379 comes first. And it's really hard to take yourself out of that for eight, ten, 12 hours a day each day 181 00:16:55,499 --> 00:16:59,459 just to go back and think about it for the free time that you have, and then try to take yourself 182 00:16:59,459 --> 00:17:04,659 out of it again the next day. Uh, do you think that that was part of kind of becoming disconnected, 183 00:17:04,660 --> 00:17:11,180 Steven? Oh, absolutely. And I'm also I was a big person on having 184 00:17:11,180 --> 00:17:16,698 accountability except for myself. This is a job where I was working from home. I was in a home 185 00:17:16,699 --> 00:17:23,698 office, and I squandered it. And I, uh, I just got too, too comfortable. 186 00:17:23,779 --> 00:17:28,219 That's one of the things I struggle with is complacency. Um, and it was just one of those 187 00:17:28,219 --> 00:17:33,699 things where I was caught spinning my gears, and I should have been more accountable and I wasn't, 188 00:17:33,699 --> 00:17:40,539 and I dropped the ball. So what was it like trying to balance the shock of losing the job with 189 00:17:40,540 --> 00:17:47,339 the shock of the diagnosis? Um, it was a whole lot of scrambling. 190 00:17:47,459 --> 00:17:52,778 Uh, I got the call early in the morning that the separation had happened. And later that afternoon, 191 00:17:52,779 --> 00:17:58,379 I was out on the road, feed on the street, trying to find a job. I bet in about two weeks time I put 192 00:17:58,380 --> 00:18:03,299 in no less than 100 applications. I was sleeping for very, very little amounts of time at night 193 00:18:03,300 --> 00:18:09,899 because I had to be able to get something that the insurance was gone from the subsidized cost. 194 00:18:09,900 --> 00:18:16,859 So we then had to pay out of pocket cost. And, uh, the thing that nobody ever wants to do, the 195 00:18:16,859 --> 00:18:22,259 401 had to get cashed in as well. So it was scrambling to find jobs, trying to find money to 196 00:18:22,260 --> 00:18:25,619 be able to keep the bills paid. We have a brand new house. We got to be able to pay for that on 197 00:18:25,619 --> 00:18:30,829 top of the medical stuff. So it was a lot. There was a lot of running around like a chicken 198 00:18:30,829 --> 00:18:37,349 without a head, a lot of sleepless nights and a lot of a lot of prayer. What do we do next? And I 199 00:18:37,349 --> 00:18:43,549 mean, I hear you say, like, within a couple of days you had 100 plus applications in the dedications. 200 00:18:43,550 --> 00:18:48,749 Obviously there you know why you're doing this. Your reasons have kind of been laid out for you. 201 00:18:48,869 --> 00:18:53,149 Um, but was there ever a point where you thought, I don't know if I'm going to be able to get us out 202 00:18:53,150 --> 00:18:59,269 at this point? Like, I don't know if this has gone too far because you talk about medical bills, man. 203 00:18:59,270 --> 00:19:04,629 Without that subsidized health insurance, like, sometimes you can get on whatever they call it, 204 00:19:04,629 --> 00:19:09,709 Cobra or something like that after you've lost your job. And there's kind of a a bridge there. But 205 00:19:09,709 --> 00:19:14,549 that stuff, I think when it was offered to me, it was four times more expensive than what I was 206 00:19:14,550 --> 00:19:20,949 paying when I had my job. So that's not always an option either. Um, how close did it get to 207 00:19:20,990 --> 00:19:26,029 where you you guys were going to have to make a real tough decision, like sell the house or maybe 208 00:19:26,069 --> 00:19:32,069 file bankruptcy or anything like that before you. You found another opportunity. Well, we were 209 00:19:32,069 --> 00:19:37,869 blessed. We. We had a decent amount saved up for 401 K. Unfortunately, you have to pay all the 210 00:19:37,870 --> 00:19:42,829 penalties and everything for that that's associated with it. But I was offered a couple of 211 00:19:42,990 --> 00:19:48,229 smaller jobs and I was offered to work for the Florida prisons and, you know, things that would at 212 00:19:48,229 --> 00:19:53,310 least get money rolling. Um, I had a friend that I was going to be able to get a little bit of part 213 00:19:53,349 --> 00:19:57,550 time work just doing small jobs here or there, but at the end of the day, I need a place that's going 214 00:19:57,550 --> 00:20:01,549 to be able to offer insurance if that's an option that we just had to take, and it has to be a place 215 00:20:01,550 --> 00:20:06,069 that would work with my wife's doctors. Um, or there was going to be more medical bills and 216 00:20:06,069 --> 00:20:13,069 everything associated with it. So, um, yeah, it was it was it was kind of utter chaos. So I think we 217 00:20:13,069 --> 00:20:19,189 had probably about 2 to 3 months where things were going to get really, really ugly. Sure, sure. 218 00:20:19,189 --> 00:20:23,469 And and what was going through your mind when those 2 to 3 months were on the doorstep? Were you, 219 00:20:23,469 --> 00:20:29,550 uh, were you to a point where you were looking outside of your normal scope of of skills and 220 00:20:29,550 --> 00:20:35,109 experience for work? I mean, you mentioned the the prison system. That's quite a bit outside of what 221 00:20:35,109 --> 00:20:39,829 you've mentioned here. You did a lot of management. You had a lot of, uh, of retail experience and a 222 00:20:39,869 --> 00:20:45,229 lot of sales side experience. Were you ever kind of thinking, hey, man, throw this whole thing to the 223 00:20:45,229 --> 00:20:49,988 wind. If I can get a job turning wrenches or swinging hammers or anything like that, I'll take 224 00:20:49,989 --> 00:20:56,389 it. Yeah, I was I was willing to put my my name out there on anything that stuck. So, 225 00:20:56,910 --> 00:21:03,589 um, it was just a few days after it all happened. My, my wife's mom was in town, uh, from Texas. We 226 00:21:03,589 --> 00:21:08,269 were living in Florida at the time. She came in from Texas to be able to help my wife focus on 227 00:21:08,589 --> 00:21:12,109 the medical stuff. Because I was supposed to be working. I made that promise that I wasn't 228 00:21:12,109 --> 00:21:18,629 supposed to lose my job. Well, we all, uh, kind of went our separate ways that night to kind of pray 229 00:21:18,629 --> 00:21:23,439 and figure out what was the right thing that we needed to do, what's the right move. And believe it 230 00:21:23,439 --> 00:21:28,479 or not, all three of us came together within about 10 to 15 minutes of each other and we said, what 231 00:21:28,479 --> 00:21:33,239 about truck driver? What about driving a truck? We know those guys can make some money. Yes, it's a 232 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:38,638 way to be away for a long time. But look. What what's out there? Let's see. Let's see what there 233 00:21:38,639 --> 00:21:44,120 is. And so that's that's kind of how it all started, so to speak, to to shift gears to the 234 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:48,959 trucking. Um, is is all three heads come together at one time? And when you did, that was divine 235 00:21:48,959 --> 00:21:53,760 intervention that all three of us came up with the same answer at the same time. Wow. Yeah, I guess 236 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:59,078 so, man. Because, listen, I, I've been making podcasts for truck drivers. Actually, you and I share a 237 00:21:59,079 --> 00:22:03,359 little bit of an anniversary. It will be four years for me in September, making podcasts 238 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:08,880 specifically for truck drivers. And with the amount of drivers that I've talked to in the last 239 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:15,879 four years, um, that's one thing that is a, a just a standard thing that I ask guys, 240 00:22:15,879 --> 00:22:21,119 what did your wife think when you decided that hay trucking was the way to go? It is not often. In 241 00:22:21,120 --> 00:22:25,679 fact, this is the first time I've ever heard it that three people came into the same room from 242 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:31,719 different rooms and said, hey, how about this as an idea? But to have your wife, a person who not only 243 00:22:31,759 --> 00:22:37,479 you know, depends on you for emotional and support and all the rest of it, financial support? Uh, this 244 00:22:37,479 --> 00:22:42,919 is somebody who's going through a really wild illness that could be fatal. Uh, and of course, you 245 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:47,280 don't want to think about it that way, but talk to me a little bit about her thoughts behind it, 246 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:52,958 because, yeah, truck driving entails you being gone for significant period of time. Uh, how did she 247 00:22:52,999 --> 00:22:58,800 kind of manage that? Where the the I guess the reticence of having you gone all the time versus 248 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:03,479 the, uh, the good news about having a solid paycheck that's going to continue roll in and 249 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:09,078 benefits and everything like that, that had to be kind of tough on her. It was. And I think the 250 00:23:09,079 --> 00:23:16,079 reality of her, uh, of I broke a promise to her. So she has a man that's supposed to love 251 00:23:16,079 --> 00:23:20,999 her standing in front of her, breaking a promise. Now it's up to me to be able to get everything 252 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:25,280 done that needs to be done, to be able to take care of everything on the home front. So I think a 253 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:30,280 little bit of it was a little bit of excitement that I'm going to be out of her hair for a little 254 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:36,318 while, but at the same time, a little bit of apprehension, because now everything falls on her 255 00:23:36,319 --> 00:23:42,119 shoulders and she's about to go through something very major that we haven't talked about yet. That 256 00:23:42,120 --> 00:23:48,119 is really going to change how she operates her day to day life. And do you want to get into that 257 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:54,039 next or do you want? Actually, I have a question before we get into that big part real quick, 258 00:23:54,040 --> 00:24:00,919 because we're sort of in the finding trucking area of your story here. And I have to just 259 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:05,400 ask you this. Had you ever considered driving a truck before this at any point in time in your 260 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:11,240 professional career? Absolutely not. It was the furthest thing from my thought 261 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:17,799 whatsoever. Um, I grew up in kind of a white collar household. Um, and 262 00:24:17,849 --> 00:24:24,289 everything was kind of you put your your Sunday best on to go to work. And not that trucks were 263 00:24:24,289 --> 00:24:28,489 necessarily looked down on but that was we weren't a blue collar family. That's not that was 264 00:24:28,490 --> 00:24:33,929 not us. We maybe had, you know, blue collar ideas. You know, we loved to be out and I we raced 265 00:24:33,930 --> 00:24:39,169 motorcycles and bicycles and all that kind of stuff. But it was never really, um, never really 266 00:24:39,170 --> 00:24:45,449 even thought of. I grew up in northwest New Mexico, and it's part of a giant oil field area, and you 267 00:24:45,489 --> 00:24:49,009 kind of have the oil field group, and then you kind of have everybody else, and unfortunately 268 00:24:49,009 --> 00:24:55,689 it's segregated that way. But, um, we were never really thinking that the rough and tough, um, way 269 00:24:55,689 --> 00:24:59,849 of life was, was ever going to be part of our family. But, uh, you know, we have to be held 270 00:24:59,849 --> 00:25:06,568 accountable to our decisions. And I looked at trucking as some apprehension. Um, but, 271 00:25:06,569 --> 00:25:11,929 uh, to maybe spoil a little bit of a surprise, I, I love what I'm doing right now. Well, we've already 272 00:25:11,930 --> 00:25:16,089 spoiled it. We know you're driving for Cypress. Otherwise, what are you even doing here? We're both 273 00:25:16,089 --> 00:25:22,329 lost if we didn't spoil that a little bit. So I you know, I get that part, but, uh, uh, okay. Well that 274 00:25:22,369 --> 00:25:28,289 that's a really, I think a really important aspect because, you know, some people that we talk to on 275 00:25:28,289 --> 00:25:33,969 this podcast and on other podcasts that I do, there's some inkling of truck driving being in 276 00:25:33,969 --> 00:25:39,530 their blood. Maybe it was grandpa was a driver. Maybe it was, you know, grandma, um, had a little bit 277 00:25:39,530 --> 00:25:45,489 of experience driving a school bus. That's one of them. Or dad worked in the shop for a trucking 278 00:25:45,490 --> 00:25:50,969 company or something like that, but that's really not the case for you. This is this is a career. Uh, 279 00:25:50,969 --> 00:25:56,849 that kind of came out of nowhere at the best possible time for you. It sounds like. Yeah, 280 00:25:56,890 --> 00:26:03,369 absolutely. We, you know, again, we we you see the trucks all over the road, but, um, the closest thing 281 00:26:03,369 --> 00:26:08,130 I ever drove to a truck was when I was racing motorcycles. I wanted to learn how to drive the 282 00:26:08,130 --> 00:26:12,809 big rig, because we had a 30 foot motorhome and a 20 foot pole behind utility trailer. Oh, wow. And I 283 00:26:12,810 --> 00:26:18,929 wanted to learn how to drive it, so I had a little bit of exposure, but never felt like a quote 284 00:26:18,930 --> 00:26:23,688 unquote trucker because that was, again, that's just not really something that we we really put a 285 00:26:23,689 --> 00:26:28,089 whole lot of attention to. Um, not necessarily looked down on, but it was, you know, again, there 286 00:26:28,089 --> 00:26:32,209 was kind of that separation of your blue collar work and your white collar work. And I, we just 287 00:26:32,209 --> 00:26:36,769 kind of fell in line with the white collar. Sure, sure. Well, and if somebody ever wanted to quiz you, 288 00:26:36,769 --> 00:26:42,170 they'd say, well, have you ever driven something that's 53ft long before you could say, I got to 50? 289 00:26:42,170 --> 00:26:45,969 And then, of course, the next question is going to be how many axles? And you're going to have to 290 00:26:46,010 --> 00:26:51,769 probably say, not nearly as many as what you guys drive, right? That's exactly right. 291 00:26:52,490 --> 00:26:58,169 Well, uh, how how did Cypress come into the picture? Was this the first company that you looked at? Had 292 00:26:58,170 --> 00:27:04,129 you looked through multiple companies? Was it something about maybe CTC, uh, that was attractive 293 00:27:04,130 --> 00:27:08,969 to you kind of talk to me about now you guys are in the room. You've decided that trucking might be 294 00:27:08,969 --> 00:27:14,859 the way to go. Where do you go from there? So my wife is a list person and everything that we do, 295 00:27:14,900 --> 00:27:21,219 she packs a list. When we go on vacation, she makes a list for her list she needs to make to do the 296 00:27:21,219 --> 00:27:26,979 things. So I love it. Everything that she's so organized, it's the way she, uh. She keeps both of 297 00:27:26,979 --> 00:27:31,620 us together. There's no doubt about it. Well, but, you know, just from personal experience, I'm sorry 298 00:27:31,620 --> 00:27:36,379 to interject here, but I. I will tell you that the reason that I have to write everything down is 299 00:27:36,380 --> 00:27:43,140 because the mind never slows down. It's ripping at 8000 rpms all the time. And, uh, you can you you 300 00:27:43,140 --> 00:27:46,939 have two options. You can be a tourist there, and you can just kind of look at everything as it 301 00:27:46,939 --> 00:27:51,419 goes by. Or you can grab little nuggets and put them down on paper, and then you get to remember 302 00:27:51,420 --> 00:27:55,699 them later. Steve. And that's the cool part about the way I go about it. So I'm sure there's some 303 00:27:55,699 --> 00:28:01,179 similarities there with your wife. Oh, absolutely. She she loves to write things down. And there's, 304 00:28:01,219 --> 00:28:07,939 there's notes for notes. So yeah, I, I, I can relate with you. Um, but yeah. So Cypress 305 00:28:07,939 --> 00:28:12,979 wasn't actually even on the radar in the initial part, which is kind of weird. You think I'm in 306 00:28:12,980 --> 00:28:18,339 Florida, I'm doing all of these internet searches. It would be something that popped up. But again, 307 00:28:18,339 --> 00:28:24,939 without naming too many names, um, I was offered um and had orientation date 308 00:28:24,939 --> 00:28:31,539 set for the Swifts of the world. And, and, you know, some of the other, um, truck companies out in Texas 309 00:28:31,579 --> 00:28:37,659 because, you know, they, they're, they're hiring by the masses. And so I had orientations date set. I 310 00:28:37,660 --> 00:28:43,700 actually had one ready to go. I was, um, about ready to get details, to get a bus ticket, to get out to 311 00:28:43,739 --> 00:28:50,658 a company out in the Midwest somewhere. And that night I found Cypress, and I don't even know 312 00:28:50,659 --> 00:28:54,779 how I can't cross it again. I'm putting in applications left and right because on top of all 313 00:28:54,780 --> 00:28:59,659 these trucking applications, I'm still trying to put in these other lanes that I'm familiar with. 314 00:28:59,660 --> 00:29:03,939 I've been doing sales for, again, almost two decades. I know that really well. I'm really good 315 00:29:03,939 --> 00:29:10,470 at it. But, um, I, I don't I don't even know how it came up, but it did And 316 00:29:10,789 --> 00:29:17,029 again, I put all these things on paper and I. I had the two top companies on the list. One, I was going 317 00:29:17,029 --> 00:29:21,509 to be out for three weeks at a time. But Cypress, they they were the only ones that said I could be 318 00:29:21,509 --> 00:29:26,310 home on the weekends, but still make the amount of money that I needed to make and even more than I 319 00:29:26,310 --> 00:29:32,189 was making in my previous sales position. So I told my I told my wife we did a pros and cons, and 320 00:29:32,189 --> 00:29:38,749 at the end of the day, Cypress is the one that won out because of the schooling was paid for at CTC, 321 00:29:38,789 --> 00:29:44,309 which I didn't have a CDL, so I needed to get my CDL right. Um, so not only was the schooling paid 322 00:29:44,309 --> 00:29:50,868 for with a year long commitment, but um, they offered a marginal difference, more of not 323 00:29:50,869 --> 00:29:56,829 necessarily just the dollars, but being able to be there for my wife. Um, such an important thing with 324 00:29:56,830 --> 00:30:02,229 what you're going through. I'm sure that home every week thing, uh, in your mind is like, hey, 325 00:30:02,670 --> 00:30:08,469 that's so much better checking in after five days out rather than having to do 15 days out and 326 00:30:08,470 --> 00:30:14,269 getting to check in only on the phone. Uh, you need to see your wife and make sure that. Because, 327 00:30:14,269 --> 00:30:19,509 listen, if your wife's anything like mine, uh, it might take a couple of really well thought out 328 00:30:19,509 --> 00:30:24,309 questions to actually get to what might be bothering her. She would rather not put it on my 329 00:30:24,310 --> 00:30:29,790 plate. Uh, sometimes she would rather figure it out on her own. And I can only imagine that the life 330 00:30:29,790 --> 00:30:35,109 of a truck driver being gone for a long stretch. Maybe it's three weeks. Maybe it's three months. 331 00:30:35,109 --> 00:30:41,269 Who knows? Um, that that, you know, face to face connection is one thing that you really start to 332 00:30:41,310 --> 00:30:47,468 lose. And I'm sure for you, during this diagnosis, that was a very important part of it. 333 00:30:48,189 --> 00:30:52,750 Yeah, it absolutely was. Again, my wife's mom was in town to be able to help out with some of the 334 00:30:52,750 --> 00:30:59,588 essential things, but we're living on property that needs the grass. Cut it. It's a brand new 335 00:30:59,630 --> 00:31:03,909 house and I don't care if it's a new house or a 60 year old house. There's regular maintenance 336 00:31:03,909 --> 00:31:08,869 things that need to be taken care of. So I saw this as a golden opportunity for me to be able to 337 00:31:08,909 --> 00:31:14,990 get a job that I can go out. Um, you know, Sunday through Friday or Monday through Friday, dependent 338 00:31:14,990 --> 00:31:19,389 upon how things work out, and be home on the weekends to take care of the chores that need to 339 00:31:19,390 --> 00:31:23,629 be taken care of, as well as anything for her, whether it be cooking groceries, anything like 340 00:31:23,629 --> 00:31:30,549 that to be able to help out and, um. Yeah. Cypress. Cypress just clicked. It just worked. So here's a 341 00:31:30,549 --> 00:31:37,549 big question for you. How long was it from the loss of the job that you'd had for a while and 342 00:31:37,550 --> 00:31:42,629 you were secure in, and it was going to provide what you needed in terms of insurance and income? 343 00:31:42,670 --> 00:31:48,349 How long was it from losing that job to where it clicked that Cypress was going to be the place? Uh, 344 00:31:48,349 --> 00:31:55,268 and you went off to to try to make that happen. From the time that the job was lost. That was on 345 00:31:55,269 --> 00:32:01,629 August 8th, I want to say early early August of the first 3rd of August. And I was in um, 346 00:32:02,110 --> 00:32:09,040 CTC orientation On August 22nd to 23rd. So less than 20 days. Wow. 347 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:14,400 That's amazing. And I just wanted to I wanted to ask that for very specific reason, Steven, is you'd 348 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,599 already told us that you were beating the pavement, which is something that you know of when 349 00:32:18,599 --> 00:32:23,559 somebody describes themselves as beating the pavement. That's a little bit, uh, that's a degree 350 00:32:23,599 --> 00:32:28,679 more than I'm out there hitting the road. That's that means that you are really doubling down. 351 00:32:28,719 --> 00:32:32,559 You're not sleeping. You've already told us that. You're not getting a lot of rest. You're just 352 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:39,478 focused on this. That dedication paid off for you in very quick order. And I just want to 353 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:44,599 pause the whole thing and say, I hope that you pat yourself on the back for that, because given the 354 00:32:44,599 --> 00:32:51,199 situation, given all of these things happening at once, the the loss of, of grandpa, your wife's 355 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:57,759 diagnosis, the loss of the job, battling with the addiction, you were a prime example of somebody 356 00:32:57,759 --> 00:33:04,319 who can just, uh, throw it all to the wind and let life take them over and lose it all. Stephen. And 357 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:10,959 you very clearly have been on the exact opposite end of of that coin, and I think that you owe 358 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:17,159 yourself a pat on the back for that before we even go any further. Man, that timeline blows my 359 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:22,400 mind. You ever get you ever get your mind blown by it just by looking back at it? Now that you're all 360 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:29,320 these years removed from this. You know, I try not to think about it too much just because, um, there 361 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:33,719 another thing that I sometimes struggle with are not sometimes all the time is pride. I'm a very, 362 00:33:33,719 --> 00:33:38,719 very prideful person, so much to the point where it's a little bit detrimental. I looked at the 363 00:33:38,719 --> 00:33:45,439 whole situation of something I had to do. I had I had the option to roll over and just give up, or I 364 00:33:45,439 --> 00:33:51,040 had the opportunity to dig my heel in and I was already at the bottom of the barrel. You couldn't 365 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:57,359 go any further lower than what? I was. Right? And I put my, my, my knuckles in the dirt and I said, 366 00:33:57,399 --> 00:34:01,959 forward, the only way to go. And and I bet you've been doing that your whole life. That sounds like 367 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:08,718 a personality trait to me. Um, a little bit there. There's been some high times in some old times, 368 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:13,439 but, uh, there's been a lot of adversity. Um, you know, another podcast, another day to maybe get 369 00:34:13,439 --> 00:34:19,759 into some of those details. But at that moment, I had to provide for someone who desperately needed 370 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:25,719 my help because I'd already let them down. And it was time to really prove that. That I was, uh, I was 371 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:31,478 the husband that I had promised her to be 15 years ago. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. So now we're sitting in 372 00:34:31,479 --> 00:34:37,999 day one, CTC, the big one. That's. I mean, listen, when you talk about trucking in Florida, 373 00:34:37,999 --> 00:34:43,999 everybody knows Cypress. It's a well-established name. It's been doing it for so long, it's grown to 374 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:49,999 such a size that if you knew how it started under a bridge with just a few trucks to where it is 375 00:34:49,999 --> 00:34:56,479 today, that in and of itself is sort of mind blowing. What was going through your mind, uh, the 376 00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:03,409 first time that, uh, class started there at CTC. Was, was can your guy back then. Yeah, 377 00:35:03,450 --> 00:35:10,290 absolutely. So. So day one, week one in CTC school you actually spend the first half of the day with 378 00:35:10,290 --> 00:35:15,769 Blaine and Randy, and you go through some of the, the legal stuff. You got to go down and get your, 379 00:35:15,810 --> 00:35:21,408 your either dot follicle test or those that hadn't gotten their physicals done, get all that 380 00:35:21,409 --> 00:35:26,769 stuff completed. So, you know, we were with 7 or 8 other men who were there in the same boat. We all 381 00:35:26,769 --> 00:35:30,408 wherever, you know, you could see a lot of fear and trepidation on a lot of people. You could see 382 00:35:30,450 --> 00:35:35,408 maybe some some cockiness in some others. And I feel like I said just a little bit somewhere in 383 00:35:35,409 --> 00:35:41,289 the middle where I was intimidated. But at the same time, I've got to make this work. I don't have 384 00:35:41,290 --> 00:35:46,289 a choice that pride has no place here, and even today, pride has no place. That's how you're going 385 00:35:46,290 --> 00:35:52,329 to end up upside down in a ditch, right? So absolutely, I, I put this on with a probably the 386 00:35:52,330 --> 00:35:57,969 most level head that I had ever been in any other job, because everything was about to get real 387 00:35:57,970 --> 00:36:04,089 crazy. I've got to make this work. So, um. Yeah, Blaine and Randy, uh, the first half of day one, and 388 00:36:04,090 --> 00:36:08,649 then Ken and Lawrence on the second half of day one. And then you're in the truck moving that 389 00:36:08,649 --> 00:36:15,649 sucker. Day two, week one. Wow, wow. So the, uh, the, um, a little bit of of, uh, 390 00:36:15,649 --> 00:36:20,489 fear in people's eyes, a little bit of the, uh, the unknown, maybe not just understanding exactly 391 00:36:20,490 --> 00:36:25,370 what's going to happen. You know, we spend a lot of time on this show, uh, giving the flowers to the 392 00:36:25,370 --> 00:36:31,009 people that deserve them in these roles. We just had Randy and Blaine on a few weeks ago. We've had 393 00:36:31,009 --> 00:36:37,129 Ken on before. Um, you know, Lawrence no longer with, uh, with the company. But Lawrence came on before, 394 00:36:37,169 --> 00:36:42,128 of course, Cecil Clark and load security. And there's a reason we wanted to talk to those guys 395 00:36:42,129 --> 00:36:49,089 because they do a really good job, which that translates to really good drivers. So before we go 396 00:36:49,090 --> 00:36:54,728 any further here, let's talk about those first couple of days. How did those guys impact this 397 00:36:54,729 --> 00:37:01,610 process that you were going on. Uh, Stephen? Well, I Kenneth Lawrence. You know, 398 00:37:01,649 --> 00:37:06,928 they were. They were definitely the characters. I definitely saw them as no BS guys. Yep. They've got 399 00:37:06,929 --> 00:37:11,769 to teach someone who's, you know, I had a guy in my class. The only thing he'd ever driven his whole 400 00:37:11,770 --> 00:37:18,569 life was a Honda Fit. And so when we're going backwards in these trucks. Yeah. If you don't know 401 00:37:18,570 --> 00:37:23,249 what a Honda Fit is, you gotta just go and Google it, because it's the smallest thing Honda ever 402 00:37:23,249 --> 00:37:28,969 made. And Honda makes some small cars. That's why I'm laughing. That's a Honda Fit. Literally takes 403 00:37:28,970 --> 00:37:33,929 up half a parking spot. You know how many Honda fits I've seen? I thought I had a parking spot and 404 00:37:33,929 --> 00:37:40,649 there's a dang Honda Fit in. It happens all the time. Stephen. So that's funny. Yeah. Um, you know, 405 00:37:40,689 --> 00:37:45,569 in the concept of of a truck, if you're thinking about it logistically to make the trailer, when 406 00:37:45,570 --> 00:37:49,249 you're going backwards to go left, you gotta turn right. Right. You got to go left. It's completely 407 00:37:49,249 --> 00:37:54,499 opposite. And your whole first week in CTC, we're doing straight backs. You pull forward, you go 408 00:37:54,499 --> 00:37:59,699 straight back, you pull forward, you go straight back to get those basic, um, you know, easy, easy 409 00:37:59,699 --> 00:38:02,579 maneuvers out of the way before you start stepping up to a little bit more difficult 410 00:38:02,580 --> 00:38:08,138 maneuvers. And this, this kid love him to death. Um, we're trying to go straight backwards, and we're 411 00:38:08,139 --> 00:38:12,739 facing 90 degrees to the left sometimes and 90 degrees to the right. And we're in there trying to 412 00:38:12,780 --> 00:38:17,619 coach him as much as possible. But at the end of the day, you got to put up or shut up, because when 413 00:38:17,620 --> 00:38:22,499 that that state examiner comes by to give you that test to be able to get that CDL, you are the 414 00:38:22,500 --> 00:38:28,739 one that's responsible for it. Nobody's going to be there coaching. Right. So, um, kin kin tells us, uh, 415 00:38:28,739 --> 00:38:32,659 you know, as the weeks go on or the days go on throughout the week, hey, make sure you guys are 416 00:38:32,659 --> 00:38:36,059 backing off a little bit. He's got to be able to get this. He's got to be able to get this. And you 417 00:38:36,060 --> 00:38:39,539 know, he made it through. He was and ended up getting his license. But yeah, there was there was 418 00:38:39,540 --> 00:38:46,339 a lot of um, timidity but yet respect for what I was doing at the same time. Sure. Um, you know, 419 00:38:46,379 --> 00:38:52,659 I, I wanted to learn how to pull trailers when I was 16 years old and when dad wasn't around to be 420 00:38:52,659 --> 00:38:57,179 able to pull stuff around. I'd be on the lawn mower with the lawn tractor behind it, trying to 421 00:38:57,179 --> 00:39:02,540 figure out how, you know, to back a single axle lawn trailer just to get the basics down. So I 422 00:39:02,540 --> 00:39:08,859 already kind of had the the basics down, but I was in for a real treat as I went on through the rest 423 00:39:08,860 --> 00:39:14,139 of it, because it was not as easy as backing up a lawn mower with a garden trailer behind it. Yeah, 424 00:39:14,179 --> 00:39:19,699 absolutely. And listen, that's no treat either. Okay. A single axle trailer that pivots super quick 425 00:39:19,699 --> 00:39:24,419 like that. Those would make you pull your hair out fast, too. You just can't do quite as much damage 426 00:39:24,419 --> 00:39:29,459 with them if you back it into something that you shouldn't have. Right. So that's exactly. Right. 427 00:39:29,460 --> 00:39:34,859 That's a good that's a really good way to learn. Um, I want to ask you something just to kind of 428 00:39:34,899 --> 00:39:40,820 tie this into other podcasts that we've had, most notably the last time that Ken joined us. Ken is 429 00:39:40,820 --> 00:39:47,019 so big. On one statement, Ken says trust the process. How did that how did that touch you 430 00:39:47,060 --> 00:39:53,679 during the process? You know that every day at 1115. For 45 431 00:39:53,679 --> 00:39:58,979 minutes, we are required to lower the landing gears. Check the glide hands, look at your fifth 432 00:39:58,979 --> 00:40:04,299 wheel kingpins and I. The whole time I'm like, why in the world are we doing this 45 minutes a day 433 00:40:04,299 --> 00:40:09,820 for four weeks straight, right before lunch, too. You're you're wearing yourself out. But at the end 434 00:40:09,820 --> 00:40:14,099 of the day, I've been doing this for four years now. I've never had an issue with dropping a 435 00:40:14,100 --> 00:40:18,299 trailer. I've never had an issue with lowering or raising the landing gears. Never had an issue with 436 00:40:18,300 --> 00:40:24,859 my airline. Because you go through these rudimentary what seems to be ridiculous steps, but 437 00:40:24,860 --> 00:40:31,739 it just works. You trust the process. And when it's 7:00 and, you know, in the wintertime and it's 438 00:40:31,739 --> 00:40:38,138 dark and there's only one spot left at the truck stop and you've got a very, very tight, uh, 439 00:40:38,499 --> 00:40:43,659 parking spot to get into, you have to go back to some of the rudimentary steps that you were 440 00:40:43,659 --> 00:40:49,509 taught in school. Um, so I can trust the process four years later because it was drilled into you 441 00:40:49,509 --> 00:40:56,429 at such an early age that it just works. Yep, yep, it really does. And, uh, we've 442 00:40:56,429 --> 00:41:01,908 got those, uh, those numbers to back it up. Right. They've got a really, really high, in fact, better 443 00:41:01,909 --> 00:41:07,989 than the state required, uh, benchmark that they keep their CTC. And, uh, I don't know, this is 444 00:41:07,989 --> 00:41:14,429 probably the 20th time we've mentioned it here on the show. And what, we're 20 episodes in ish 21. So, 445 00:41:14,590 --> 00:41:18,989 um, you know, hats off to those guys out there. Stephen, you might know a better than any of us 446 00:41:18,989 --> 00:41:23,309 that are that have come on this show. Um, those guys can take somebody that's used to sitting 447 00:41:23,309 --> 00:41:28,870 behind a desk and turned them into a successful truck driver. If that person that's making that 448 00:41:28,870 --> 00:41:35,550 transition can dedicate themselves to the process. Yeah, exactly. I, I started with, I believe eight 449 00:41:35,550 --> 00:41:41,349 people and a few, uh, were weeded out for one reason or another. And I think there were four of 450 00:41:41,350 --> 00:41:48,029 us that went into, uh, day one orientation. So, uh, about 50% of the people that started there, 451 00:41:48,029 --> 00:41:53,429 but those that made it to the CDL test. Every single one of them passed, I bet. I bet so. Were you 452 00:41:53,470 --> 00:41:59,869 nervous when that, uh, state, uh, test proctor came in and put that test down in front of you? I was, 453 00:41:59,870 --> 00:42:05,988 because, again, I had to make this work. This is my one shot. It. Mind you, I'm in this class for four 454 00:42:05,989 --> 00:42:11,989 weeks with no paycheck, right? We have a per diem that's coming in. Sure. And it's basically covering 455 00:42:11,989 --> 00:42:16,949 my fuel back and forth because I lived about 3.5 hours from Jacksonville, so it covered my fuel to 456 00:42:16,949 --> 00:42:23,069 get back and forth from home for four weeks. But I had one shot. You know, to quote Eminem, this is my 457 00:42:23,070 --> 00:42:30,029 one opportunity. I didn't have anything else that was going to work. Yeah. So, um, I, I'm 458 00:42:30,030 --> 00:42:36,829 pretty sure I filled my boots with sweat because I was just so nervous, but, uh, it came, uh, to test 459 00:42:36,830 --> 00:42:41,509 day, and I passed with flying colors. I was able to call my wife, and we were able to rejoice at the 460 00:42:41,509 --> 00:42:48,029 CDL. Um, license was acquired, and orientation was just a few days later. What was that phone call 461 00:42:48,030 --> 00:42:52,829 like? Can you talk me through that? I mean, how did your wife react when you called her and said, I am 462 00:42:52,830 --> 00:42:59,830 an official, uh, federal CDL license holder? Well, to be completely honest, I sent her a text 463 00:42:59,830 --> 00:43:04,469 message that apparently was a little bit cryptic, and she called me in a friendly because I thought 464 00:43:04,469 --> 00:43:08,149 that my text message, uh, because she. I don't want to wake her up when she was sleeping because I 465 00:43:08,189 --> 00:43:11,748 tested fairly early in the morning, and I'm an hour ahead of time because we live in Central 466 00:43:11,790 --> 00:43:16,989 Time in Florida. And so apparently my text message was a little bit cryptic. So she called me 467 00:43:17,030 --> 00:43:23,629 panicked. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, I've got the license. I'm heading home. So, um, there was a 468 00:43:23,629 --> 00:43:29,789 I'm sure several skipped heartbeats on her end. Um, but after that there was, uh, it was excitement 469 00:43:29,789 --> 00:43:35,109 that, hey, this is this is finally about to start going. Um, but the next chapter in holding this 470 00:43:35,110 --> 00:43:40,789 story is orientation was on Thursday, and my wife was scheduled for a double mastectomy on 471 00:43:40,789 --> 00:43:47,520 Wednesday. Oh my goodness, that is such a big surgery. I know multiple people that have gone 472 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:54,198 through double mastectomies and listen, notwithstanding what it does to you as a woman. 473 00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:59,159 Okay. Because that's something I can't speak to. I can only call on the experience of my friends and 474 00:43:59,159 --> 00:44:04,999 loved ones that have been through this. Um, but the women going through that are 475 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:12,279 emotionally just beat to a pulp by the time they even get to that surgery. What was going 476 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:16,119 through your mind? How did you think what what am I going to do here? I've got to be there for that 477 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:22,479 double mastectomy. Can I even. I mean, how mentally would you even be able to start on Thursday 478 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:27,719 morning first thing when your wife's probably still in recovery at this point? Uh, probably still 479 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:34,478 at the hospital. Stephen. What? Walk me through it, man. Yeah. So, uh, again, I got this job by 480 00:44:34,479 --> 00:44:39,159 divine intervention, and my wife was not going to try to schedule that surgery in any other time 481 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:43,439 than what the doctors could do, because she was ready to get the cancer out. It's ready. She's 482 00:44:43,439 --> 00:44:47,199 ready to be done with it. Right. And so whenever it's scheduled for whether I'm there or not, it's 483 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:53,919 coming out. So, um, again, I passed the CDL test on Friday. Um, we knew what 484 00:44:53,919 --> 00:44:57,800 the dates were going to be. A couple of weeks ahead of time, you know, so she can go in for a 485 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:04,519 pre-op stuff and all these kind of things. And, um, I, I knew that God was looking out for us 486 00:45:04,519 --> 00:45:09,639 because I was able to be there for the surgery. And believe it or not, she was out of a hospital 487 00:45:09,679 --> 00:45:14,878 about two hours after surgery and back home in bed, and I was able to make sure that she got home 488 00:45:14,879 --> 00:45:20,678 in bed and I this was probably about 6 or 7:00 at night, and I drove straight to Jacksonville, was 489 00:45:20,679 --> 00:45:25,759 there at midnight and in orientation class a little bit before 8:00 on Thursday morning. So, um, 490 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:30,999 I knew that, uh, she was going to be better. The doctor said that everything went well on the 491 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:36,839 surgery. Her mom was there to take care of her in the immediate. And, um, the one thing that we had 492 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:42,159 said before the surgery happened is the fastest I can start making real boy money instead of the 493 00:45:42,159 --> 00:45:47,519 money that I'm making through training. Just let it happen. And so I was in orientation on Thursday 494 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:52,718 and Friday. I went back home that weekend, and two days later I was out on the road for a month 495 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:57,719 straight with my trainer so I could get my own truck and start turning my own miles. Wow. What an 496 00:45:57,720 --> 00:46:04,399 amazing, uh, just an amazing week. I mean, the you stack up all the emotion, all of 497 00:46:04,399 --> 00:46:11,399 the worry, all of the excitement, everything that goes into starting a new job, especially one that 498 00:46:11,399 --> 00:46:17,879 entails so much detail, like hauling flatbed. Uh, and then you're going to mix into that cocktail. 499 00:46:17,919 --> 00:46:23,919 All of the fear, all of the emotion, all of the stress that comes from such a huge diagnosis that 500 00:46:23,919 --> 00:46:30,839 your wife is going through, um, to be able to even focus for that drive. I, I would like to ask you, 501 00:46:30,879 --> 00:46:37,280 do you remember the drive after you left your wife home recovering from a successful operation? 502 00:46:37,319 --> 00:46:42,689 Uh, and then between there and Jacksonville, I would imagine that's just a blur. I would say if 503 00:46:42,689 --> 00:46:48,168 you could take heavy metal and the fastest punk rock that you could ever imagine and slam them 504 00:46:48,169 --> 00:46:53,529 together, that's what would be going through my head. Just chaos. Stephen, what was it like for you 505 00:46:53,530 --> 00:47:00,009 on that drive? If I if I could remember, I would tell you you're exactly right. Um, I 506 00:47:00,209 --> 00:47:06,289 remember getting her to bed and making sure that she was okay and talking to her mom. Um, you know, 507 00:47:06,570 --> 00:47:09,729 telling her kind of what the schedule was supposed to look like. And I was going to be 508 00:47:09,729 --> 00:47:15,209 communicating with her mom, because obviously, my wife is, uh, definitely under heavy anesthesia. Um, 509 00:47:15,210 --> 00:47:21,289 and I don't even. I don't remember the hotel. I don't remember that night. I remember getting in 510 00:47:21,290 --> 00:47:26,329 the car to go to orientation to be on time because it's first day at a new job. It's time to, 511 00:47:26,570 --> 00:47:31,970 um, you know, start making money. And I, I barely remember showing up, but I was there. You were 512 00:47:31,970 --> 00:47:38,009 there? Yeah. Yeah. That was. That's all I could have given was my presence at that moment. Absolutely. 513 00:47:38,010 --> 00:47:43,409 And and and you did, man. And you're you deserve a huge pat on the back for that, because there's a 514 00:47:43,409 --> 00:47:48,089 lot of people that wouldn't be able to just handle all of that. And that's a big part of it. 515 00:47:48,129 --> 00:47:53,749 You know, the mind works in mysterious ways, and sometimes just blocking things out for three 516 00:47:53,749 --> 00:47:59,649 hours and giving your mind a second to try to catch up, um, is probably what it was doing there. 517 00:47:59,649 --> 00:48:05,089 And how awesome that just a few short days later you were out for a month with your trainer. 518 00:48:05,129 --> 00:48:10,409 Something that we always do on this podcast. Whenever somebody mentions a trainer, I always say, 519 00:48:10,449 --> 00:48:15,849 you gotta call out your trainer, because I know we've got some fantastic trainers here at Cypress, 520 00:48:15,850 --> 00:48:21,569 and everybody that I talk to is always more than happy to give their trainers some flowers, because 521 00:48:21,570 --> 00:48:28,290 it normally goes very well. So who was your guy? My, my trainer was Nathan Desmarais. He's a Texas 522 00:48:28,290 --> 00:48:33,610 driver. He was over the road for a while. He left and came back. So we're we're also glad to welcome 523 00:48:33,610 --> 00:48:39,699 him back with open arms. Awesome. Well. Big shout out to Nathan for that first month that you spent. 524 00:48:39,699 --> 00:48:44,699 And I know you're going to walk us through that here. And, uh, as you do kind of talk to me about 525 00:48:44,699 --> 00:48:51,259 the the experience itself, you know, figuring out what this job's all about. You've got the CDL now, 526 00:48:51,300 --> 00:48:56,019 you've gone through the training. You are confident in the fact that you can do the job, but 527 00:48:56,019 --> 00:49:00,539 now you're really going to get kicked into the deep end of the pool, because these trainers are 528 00:49:00,540 --> 00:49:06,699 out there to make sure that you can handle it on your own. So, uh, how did that first month go? 529 00:49:07,580 --> 00:49:13,819 Well, I'll tell you about the first day. So, um, it's, I believe a Tuesday or Wednesday morning. We're in 530 00:49:13,820 --> 00:49:19,939 low, secure, um, class. And at the time, Cecil was not doing it, so it was, uh, Randy and Blaine or or 531 00:49:20,060 --> 00:49:25,260 whomever they could have gotten their hands on to be able to help teach these lots of classes. And, 532 00:49:25,659 --> 00:49:31,899 um, my trainer gets out of his train, the trainer class because he wants to become a trainer. And 533 00:49:32,300 --> 00:49:36,179 Randy comes over and says, hey, this is the guy that we want you to train with. We know everything 534 00:49:36,180 --> 00:49:39,938 that's going on with your wife. Are you okay with going out for a month? And I said, I am. We've 535 00:49:39,939 --> 00:49:46,779 already talked about it. Let's go. And so he is one that likes to get up at midnight on 536 00:49:46,780 --> 00:49:53,659 2:00. And at the time, man, I'm doing cushy sales jobs. I like to get up at 6 or 7:00 in the morning, 537 00:49:53,700 --> 00:49:59,859 have some coffee. Stretch my legs. You know, all these things. And I said, wait, like midnight is in, 538 00:50:00,220 --> 00:50:07,179 like after 11:59 p.m.. What are we talking about? And so I left that day to go catch some 539 00:50:07,179 --> 00:50:11,729 sleep in the hotel room and get the last of my things. And I meet him at the yard around 10 or 540 00:50:11,730 --> 00:50:17,539 11:00 that night, and he tosses me the keys and he says, let's drive to Texas. And I said, wait, wait, 541 00:50:17,580 --> 00:50:24,260 hold on. I mean, I have to drive this thing out there. I don't get a crash course first, and I'm 542 00:50:25,300 --> 00:50:29,819 trial by fire, so to speak. I'm glad that he did that, because I was able to work the nerves out 543 00:50:29,860 --> 00:50:35,860 early in the morning. There was no traffic out on the road. Um, and it was it was a great experience 544 00:50:35,860 --> 00:50:42,658 because, um, my goal when I was going through CTC was to never have Ken 545 00:50:42,659 --> 00:50:47,178 raise his voice at me because, you know, you do stuff wrong sometimes. We're we're men. We're we're 546 00:50:47,179 --> 00:50:50,939 we're a little bit thick headed, and we need things drilled into our head a little bit. Well, I 547 00:50:50,940 --> 00:50:56,100 went through the whole four week process, um, getting nothing but praise in minor corrections. 548 00:50:56,100 --> 00:51:00,619 Never, never a. Hey, what do you think you're doing? Um, you know, you need to go stand in the corner 549 00:51:00,620 --> 00:51:04,779 and think about your thoughts before you think this is a job for you or not. So I was I was very, 550 00:51:04,779 --> 00:51:10,218 very bound and determined to never let that happen. Um, so a lot of that kind of already gotten 551 00:51:10,219 --> 00:51:16,059 worked out. Um, but then when I, you know, realized, hey, we've got 50,000 pounds worth of product that 552 00:51:16,060 --> 00:51:21,100 we're about to be hauling halfway across the country. Um, I'm glad that it happened the way it 553 00:51:21,100 --> 00:51:27,179 did, because from that day forward, um, it's it's far from easy. This job is is nothing in the realm 554 00:51:27,179 --> 00:51:34,030 of easy. But, um, it was able to let allow me to, uh, put myself to the test because, 555 00:51:34,030 --> 00:51:39,989 again, I've got the license. This job has to work. And so just made it work. And after that first 556 00:51:39,990 --> 00:51:45,469 trip to Texas, when you first pull in there to Texas, uh, did you kind of know is that when it 557 00:51:45,470 --> 00:51:49,830 clicked for you? Is that when you thought, man, once you've shaken off the nerves a little bit, you you 558 00:51:49,830 --> 00:51:54,549 understand that this is something that you can do. You've got a really experienced guy in the seat 559 00:51:54,590 --> 00:51:59,229 right there next to you that's helping you along the way. Uh, is that when you knew that this was 560 00:51:59,229 --> 00:52:05,948 going to work out and your one shot was one that you completed? Uh, for the most part, um, you know, 561 00:52:05,989 --> 00:52:11,229 the the whole process with your trainer is a totally different experience with them than CTC. 562 00:52:11,429 --> 00:52:16,029 Because though you're being judged every day, you know, I've listened to the show several times and 563 00:52:16,030 --> 00:52:20,869 you're you're living with this person, so you're building a relationship with them. You're you're 564 00:52:20,870 --> 00:52:26,589 going through, um, the whole processes. And so life out on the road, though hard because it's 565 00:52:26,590 --> 00:52:30,829 something that I've never done before. Um, it really just kind of started to click and I was 566 00:52:30,829 --> 00:52:35,388 under. Understanding the process, you know. When I first started, I was going to be a Southeast 567 00:52:35,389 --> 00:52:41,469 Regional driver. So I was kind of getting my bearings. Um, but it, it, I don't know, it was, it was 568 00:52:41,469 --> 00:52:47,389 kind of just it just made sense. You know, there wasn't anything about it that was daunting, other 569 00:52:47,389 --> 00:52:53,790 than, I've got to fold and roll these tarps by myself. Yeah, I'll tell you, those things are 570 00:52:53,790 --> 00:52:58,029 intimidating to look at, man. I when I first saw one of them sitting on the back of the truck, I 571 00:52:58,030 --> 00:53:02,589 thought, wait, this is something you guys will do by yourself. That's wild. How could I even squat 572 00:53:02,590 --> 00:53:08,869 that thing up there on the back of the truck? So, uh, that I. I totally understand that, but, uh, it all 573 00:53:08,870 --> 00:53:15,469 starts to kind of fall into place after just a few days. A few weeks, I assume. Yeah, absolutely. Um, 574 00:53:15,470 --> 00:53:20,829 again, we were we were out on the road for a month straight, so there wasn't a whole lot of, um, time 575 00:53:20,830 --> 00:53:25,909 to really contemplate, um, how things work. Because it's just time to put your head down and go to 576 00:53:25,949 --> 00:53:30,790 work, you know? I've been doing this for four years. And it's not that I don't want to make friends, 577 00:53:30,790 --> 00:53:34,988 but I've just put my head down and I've gone to work. A lot of guys like to congregate around and 578 00:53:34,989 --> 00:53:38,990 talk, and I just want to get to bed so I can get up earlier than they do the next day to get the 579 00:53:38,990 --> 00:53:43,549 miles, get down the road. Ever since I've been here for the last four years, I've been in the top ten 580 00:53:43,590 --> 00:53:50,509 on the top dog list. Wow. I just want to go to work. I don't want to to play games again. I've got 581 00:53:50,510 --> 00:53:56,229 to make this work. So I'm going to. That's amazing man. Now you've mentioned some of the names that 582 00:53:56,229 --> 00:54:00,789 Cypress who kind of helped you pull through your trainer Nathan. We've talked about Ken, of course, 583 00:54:00,790 --> 00:54:06,110 Randy and Blaine and orientation. Uh, one thing I want to ask you is, from a personal standpoint 584 00:54:06,110 --> 00:54:12,469 here, Steven. Um, did did trucking restore your confidence in yourself after everything you had 585 00:54:12,469 --> 00:54:17,149 gone through? We talked about you kind of being at the bottom of the barrel. Um, how did you start 586 00:54:17,149 --> 00:54:22,829 feeling about Stephen once you really started to get your feet wet in that first month out on the 587 00:54:22,829 --> 00:54:28,799 road, start to really understand the job. When did that confidence in yourself and confidence in 588 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:35,320 your situation start to turn around for you? Um, so I want to say probably around the 6 to 9 month 589 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:40,519 mark. So, um, I had talked to somebody about trucking before I got in with the works for a 590 00:54:40,519 --> 00:54:44,999 completely different company, and he said that you're going to have this kind of puff your chest 591 00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:50,799 out moment like I just did a man's job type deal. Um, when you get home at the end of the week and 592 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,918 I'm like, yeah, okay, sure. Whatever. This guy's blowing smoke. He has no idea what he's talking 593 00:54:53,919 --> 00:55:00,398 about. And in that 6 to 9 month mark, I became a trainer and I got the brand new truck. So I had 594 00:55:00,399 --> 00:55:05,559 proven myself to the company because I'm a nobody. They have no idea who I am. You know, from the 595 00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:11,999 outside, of course they do now. But at that time, I'm just as a young, young guy who's trying to 596 00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:18,839 make a name for himself in the company. Um, and I had proven to, uh, somebody who a company who knows 597 00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:23,279 what they're doing, they've been doing this for multiple, multiple decades that, hey, this guy kind 598 00:55:23,279 --> 00:55:29,559 of knows what he's doing. So at that point, there was, um, uh, the puff your chest out, mama. Not so 599 00:55:29,559 --> 00:55:33,599 much as the chip on the shoulder, so to speak, because, again, I, uh, pride is something I've long 600 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:39,439 dealt with, but I could stand confidently at the end of the day and say I put in a hard day's work. 601 00:55:39,439 --> 00:55:44,839 I'd done what I'm supposed to do that day, everything within my capability. And I'm proud and 602 00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:50,759 accomplishing what I did. Yeah. You know, it brings me back to, uh. And I know that this is such a 603 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:56,479 funny place to pull an inspirational quote from, but it's a quote from the office. Uh, when when the 604 00:55:56,479 --> 00:56:01,360 Michael Scott Paper Company breaks away and is trying to hire new salespeople and steal all of 605 00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:07,239 the business from Dunder Mifflin and one of their prospective employees says confidence is the food 606 00:56:07,240 --> 00:56:12,878 of the wise man, but the liquor of the fool. And that's always really stuck to me. And I wonder, I 607 00:56:12,879 --> 00:56:17,199 wonder how you take that statement, because there is a fine line between confidence and arrogance. 608 00:56:17,199 --> 00:56:24,079 There's a fine line between being prideful and being Overly prideful. Um, and it sounds to me 609 00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:30,758 like you kind of toed that line just perfectly over this transition. Stephen. Yeah. So I worked for 610 00:56:30,759 --> 00:56:35,158 a company, and I'm not going to do it, quote unquote, because we trademarked it. I don't think 611 00:56:35,159 --> 00:56:40,678 we have the money to pay for those trademarks on this podcast. So, um, but I'm going to do everything 612 00:56:40,679 --> 00:56:45,719 that I do, and I'm going to do it better than anybody else. So again, I told you, I'm going to be 613 00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:50,319 in some of these places, that I'm the only person within hundreds of miles. Right? So I'm going to 614 00:56:50,319 --> 00:56:55,320 act with integrity. I define integrity as doing the right thing, even when people aren't looking. 615 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:59,479 That's a good. Way. So I'm going to throw that pork strap. I'm going to throw that extra out. I'm going 616 00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:05,479 to do what I'm supposed to do. Because though this company, they want us to be as perfect as we can, 617 00:57:05,799 --> 00:57:09,999 the family of four that's on their way to Disneyland, it's in the car next to you. They know. 618 00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:15,120 They don't know it. They need you to be perfect. Yep. Absolutely. So you've got that obligation to 619 00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:20,969 the motoring public, right? That's exactly right. It's something that I have to. I have to have 620 00:57:20,970 --> 00:57:27,889 pride in what I do and be confident in what I do. But yeah, the arrogance. Arrogance has no 621 00:57:27,889 --> 00:57:32,289 place in this industry. If you're going to be an arrogant, cocky driver, you might as well just stay 622 00:57:32,289 --> 00:57:37,929 in bed that day. Yeah, because. Super truckers, right? Those super truckers, nobody likes them out there. 623 00:57:38,449 --> 00:57:45,449 That's exactly right. Um, I can't stress enough. You know, when I was a trainer, I'm not a trainer 624 00:57:45,449 --> 00:57:51,129 anymore. I stopped after a couple of years. Um, my, my, that was my biggest stress is we could be 625 00:57:51,129 --> 00:57:56,488 friends at the end of the day. But right now, my job is to make sure that you, me and everybody 626 00:57:56,489 --> 00:58:03,370 around us get home safely. Yes, sir. So, um, there has to be a respect for what we do. 627 00:58:03,609 --> 00:58:08,089 Um. And, yeah, you could be prideful after you pull those breaks. Right. You can boast all you want to 628 00:58:08,129 --> 00:58:14,969 after you pull those breaks. Until then, let's be confident and, um, and proud of what we do 629 00:58:15,170 --> 00:58:20,928 in a in a proud sort of way. Not a pride. Way. Absolutely. Chinh wagon is for after the truck is 630 00:58:20,929 --> 00:58:26,249 shut down. Right. That's when you can go out there and talk about your exploits. That's exactly right. 631 00:58:27,009 --> 00:58:33,488 You know, Steven, when we left your wife, uh, she had just been, uh, put down to bed after a 632 00:58:33,489 --> 00:58:39,568 successful operation. Uh, you're off for a month with your trainer. Her mom's at home helping out. 633 00:58:39,610 --> 00:58:44,849 Um, talk to me about the recovery. Obviously, we're telling this story here because we got some good 634 00:58:44,850 --> 00:58:51,449 news. Um, how did the whole thing end up for your wife? Uh, we're we're way down the road now, so talk 635 00:58:51,449 --> 00:58:56,009 to me a little bit about the process in her recovery. Being without you for that month. How did 636 00:58:56,010 --> 00:59:01,768 that affect her? How did it affect you? And and how did you guys, uh, extend that recovery through and 637 00:59:01,769 --> 00:59:08,129 make it as successful as it was? So the biggest thing is the type of cancer and really any type 638 00:59:08,129 --> 00:59:12,729 of cancer, but specifically the type of cancer that my wife had. Thankfully, she was stage one. Um, 639 00:59:12,729 --> 00:59:19,530 but it fed on, uh, on sugar. Uh, cancer loves sugar. So, uh, it was also a 640 00:59:19,530 --> 00:59:25,649 complete diet change for her. Um, my my wife has always been a very, very petite, uh, very petite 641 00:59:25,649 --> 00:59:31,049 woman. And so she went on a complete diet change where no sugar, no carbs, went on a ketogenic diet. 642 00:59:31,330 --> 00:59:38,329 Um, and it was, it was kind of kind of crazy that literally one day, out 643 00:59:38,329 --> 00:59:43,089 of the blue, you're diagnosed with cancer. Um, you know, you have to have this life altering surgery, 644 00:59:43,090 --> 00:59:49,688 and now you got to change your comfort foods. Yeah. So it was it was a little bit of a culture 645 00:59:49,689 --> 00:59:55,529 shock, but, um, you know, we're three and a half, almost four years down the road now. Um, and with 646 00:59:55,529 --> 01:00:01,849 no chemo and no radiation, I am glad and proud to say that she's still cancer free. We're going to 647 01:00:01,849 --> 01:00:07,049 give that a round of applause here on the Cypress Truck Lines podcast. That's amazing. That is 648 01:00:07,050 --> 01:00:13,209 amazing. It's an absolute blessing. A miracle really, if you if you want to look at it, there are 649 01:00:13,209 --> 01:00:19,499 there are so many stories of this not turning out that way. Um, and I'm so glad that we get to tell 650 01:00:19,540 --> 01:00:25,379 one of the one of the good stories, the success stories here on the show. Um, your wife is is 651 01:00:25,379 --> 01:00:30,819 living a normal life now. Aside from the diet changes and things like that, everything is back 652 01:00:30,820 --> 01:00:36,979 to normal for her. I assume at this point. Yeah, 100%. So, uh, along with the surgery, there was some 653 01:00:36,980 --> 01:00:42,899 reconstructive stuff, but my wife is a horseman, and at 120 pounds, she can throw a 75 pound saddle 654 01:00:42,939 --> 01:00:49,499 on the back of a horse. Um, and life is just normal. And you would have never thought that anything 655 01:00:49,499 --> 01:00:55,419 like that had ever happened to her. Um, she she looks great. She feels great. Um. Or, you know, faith 656 01:00:55,419 --> 01:01:00,659 brought us through, and faith will continue to guide us. And, um, I tell you, she's a saint. She's 657 01:01:00,659 --> 01:01:07,579 the strongest woman I know. Um, and she has to put up with me, so God bless her. Wise enough 658 01:01:07,580 --> 01:01:11,739 to say, because, you know, she might she might listen to this podcast. And I always give guys a 659 01:01:11,740 --> 01:01:16,259 second to, uh, mention their wives, call them out, let them know how much they mean to him here on 660 01:01:16,259 --> 01:01:22,219 the show. And you've obviously done that just there, Stephen. And what a fantastic story. I'm so 661 01:01:22,220 --> 01:01:28,418 happy for her. Please give her all of our best from the Cypress Truck Lines podcast. Um, the next 662 01:01:28,419 --> 01:01:33,698 time you talk to her. But, uh, one part of this story that you mentioned a little bit, you touched 663 01:01:33,699 --> 01:01:38,899 on it. But, uh, now that we're kind of fast forwarded here towards where we are today, uh, 664 01:01:38,899 --> 01:01:43,060 there's one thing that stuck out to me when we were putting this episode together, I was talking 665 01:01:43,060 --> 01:01:48,698 to some of the guys in management about doing this episode, and one of them spoke up and told me, 666 01:01:48,699 --> 01:01:55,340 he said, that guy loves trucking. And he was very, very sincere about it. 667 01:01:55,340 --> 01:02:00,418 And I just wanted to put that out in front of you because you've already told me in this podcast, I 668 01:02:00,419 --> 01:02:06,539 love trucking, but talk to me a little bit about that. When did that love really bubble up and when 669 01:02:06,539 --> 01:02:12,699 did you know that, hey, this isn't just a stopgap to get my wife back to 100% and make the money we 670 01:02:12,699 --> 01:02:18,299 need to make. When did you know that this was a career that you had fallen in love with? Stephen. I 671 01:02:18,300 --> 01:02:23,820 would say fairly early on, um, what's what's great about this job is, uh, though I had an issue with 672 01:02:23,820 --> 01:02:29,899 accountability before I said I had to make this job work. And, you know, though, I've got to get the 673 01:02:29,899 --> 01:02:34,219 load delivered on time. You know, mommy is not going to be calling me at 730 to make sure that 674 01:02:34,219 --> 01:02:39,459 I'm up and doing my job. I have to take sole responsibility for that. But what's great is I 675 01:02:39,459 --> 01:02:45,019 kind of get to be my own boss out here. Um, but at the end of the day, I've also got an answer to my 676 01:02:45,019 --> 01:02:49,099 boss, who was my wife. Um, when I bring the paycheck home to her and say, hey, this is this is the 677 01:02:49,100 --> 01:02:55,859 fruits of my labor over the last seven days. What do you think? Um, so it's that 678 01:02:55,859 --> 01:03:02,739 that chest puffing out moment, like I said earlier, that, um, I get to look and say, okay, I, I did what I 679 01:03:02,739 --> 01:03:08,339 did this week. I'm losing weight. You know, I've lost probably 50 plus pounds since I started this 680 01:03:08,340 --> 01:03:12,549 job, 40 of those pounds being since January of this year. Because I also went on the ketogenic 681 01:03:12,549 --> 01:03:16,989 diet, I was having some health issues that, you know, nothing major, anything close to what my life 682 01:03:16,989 --> 01:03:23,269 was. Um, but I just loved it because I get to go out, I get to see the open road. I've been to 683 01:03:23,310 --> 01:03:30,228 29 states, plus Washington, D.C., since I started this job. Wow. Um, and I get to 684 01:03:30,229 --> 01:03:36,710 see, um, you know, the wildlife and and nature and get to stay active. Flat betting is 685 01:03:36,710 --> 01:03:43,549 no. No joke. Um, it definitely keeps you active. Um, and I, I just get to go out and be 686 01:03:43,550 --> 01:03:49,549 proud of what I do in a way that can support my family and and do the best for a company that I 687 01:03:49,590 --> 01:03:56,590 absolutely love. That's so well said, man. So well said. You know, it's so strange to me sometimes how 688 01:03:56,590 --> 01:04:03,349 life can completely fall apart. And it's not necessarily the end of the story. It's the it's 689 01:04:03,350 --> 01:04:10,148 the brand new opening of not just a new chapter, but maybe even a new book. Um, it's 690 01:04:10,149 --> 01:04:15,349 it's amazing to me that it can almost completely fall apart and still end up somewhere good, if not 691 01:04:15,350 --> 01:04:20,789 even better than where it was before. Do you feel better off now that your wife's made the full 692 01:04:20,790 --> 01:04:26,428 recovery, and you're where you are today versus where you were just four short years ago? Stephen? 693 01:04:27,190 --> 01:04:33,510 Uh, without a doubt. There's no question in my mind on that. Um, I had a sales manager one time. Tell me 694 01:04:33,510 --> 01:04:40,508 if you think the grass is greener on the other side, then water your own grass. And so I came 695 01:04:40,509 --> 01:04:44,949 to a company that's that's got good family, Christian based values to it. And I said, I'm going 696 01:04:44,949 --> 01:04:48,869 to give it my all. I'm going to water my own grass while I'm here. I was only supposed to be here for 697 01:04:48,870 --> 01:04:54,989 a year, and here I am four years later, and I can honestly say that I love Cypress lines. I love 698 01:04:54,990 --> 01:04:59,509 everything they stand for. I love everything that they're about. And I am without a doubt. And we are 699 01:04:59,509 --> 01:05:04,388 without a doubt. And she is without a doubt in a better position because of it. That's amazing. 700 01:05:04,389 --> 01:05:08,589 That's amazing. Stephen Henderson I can't thank you enough for coming on here and telling the 701 01:05:08,589 --> 01:05:14,469 story today, man, you wouldn't believe it if I told you, but the clock just clicked over one hour. 702 01:05:14,469 --> 01:05:18,510 We've been sitting here talking. It feels like it's been ten minutes to me. And I know that 703 01:05:18,510 --> 01:05:23,869 there's probably so much more to this story. And. And that's because you're still writing this 704 01:05:23,870 --> 01:05:30,109 story. This story is so far from finished. Um, but I want to thank you not only for just coming on and 705 01:05:30,109 --> 01:05:35,749 and being as open as you have been here. Um, but a lot of times, this type of tragedy when it strikes, 706 01:05:35,750 --> 01:05:41,869 especially when it hits so close to home and especially when it hits, uh, 3 or 4 times over, so 707 01:05:41,869 --> 01:05:47,549 close to home, it's very hard for a lot of people to ever get back and and talk about it from a 708 01:05:47,549 --> 01:05:53,668 standpoint of success. And I can tell that, um, you have you have talked to yourself about this, 709 01:05:53,709 --> 01:05:58,789 you've talked to your wife about this. You know, that where you're at is better now. And it's just 710 01:05:58,790 --> 01:06:03,749 a it's an absolute miracle to know that everything turned out as good as it did for you 711 01:06:03,790 --> 01:06:09,880 through all your hard work and dedication, man. Um, congratulations on this, Stephen. I know that 712 01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:14,880 there's for every story like yours out there, there's probably ten stories where it didn't work 713 01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:21,639 out as good or even at all for somebody. And, um, I think that you are the proof that 714 01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:27,319 you are in control of that as the person that's going through these things, whatever you're going 715 01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:34,320 through out there. And listen, um, while I've been fortunate and I haven't had, um, a lot of health 716 01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:39,399 problems myself, I do have a lot of family members and friends and loved ones that have been 717 01:06:39,399 --> 01:06:44,879 stricken with cancer. Um, I've got a lot of friends that have dealt with addiction. Um, my wife has 718 01:06:44,879 --> 01:06:50,399 dealt with addiction. None of those things are easy. And when you add to it, a cornerstone of the 719 01:06:50,399 --> 01:06:57,158 family, uh, passing away, it it just twists you into all different directions. And I 720 01:06:57,159 --> 01:07:03,079 can't believe how much success you found, man, I would put you up against anybody to do anything. 721 01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:08,759 It sounds to me like you have found your home, and, uh, we're going to have to pry that steering wheel 722 01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:12,919 out of your fingers if we ever want to take it from you. Because you're in love with this company, 723 01:07:12,919 --> 01:07:16,560 you're in love with this gig, and it kind of sounds like you're in love with the road, too, man. 724 01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:20,959 Yeah, absolutely. You know, I want to get back regional to be able to see the wife a little bit 725 01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:26,158 more on the weekends and help her out with some stuff out in Texas. But, uh, yeah, this is this is 726 01:07:26,159 --> 01:07:31,800 definitely a what I didn't think was going to turn into a career now is. That's amazing. Well, 727 01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:37,879 listen, we always give an area for whoever joins us on this show to share their final thoughts 728 01:07:37,879 --> 01:07:43,399 with us. And this segment is meant to wrap up the entire segment. If there's anything that you 729 01:07:43,399 --> 01:07:48,038 didn't get to talk about, that is part of the story that you want to tell, please, now's the time. 730 01:07:48,039 --> 01:07:52,719 If you want to give a shout out to say that awesome wife of yours or any of the people that 731 01:07:52,719 --> 01:07:58,239 helped you along the way, you can do that too. Or, uh, we can just wrap it up here, Stephen. But the 732 01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:04,010 point is, the floor is yours for these last couple of minutes. And again, I just want to say thank you 733 01:08:04,010 --> 01:08:10,409 for coming on and telling this story. This is a powerful story and a gravitational one that, again, 734 01:08:10,449 --> 01:08:17,089 I think shows that you are in control of your situation. Sometimes you just have to work very, 735 01:08:17,089 --> 01:08:22,289 very hard to pull yourself up off the bottom. You're a shining example of doing that. My friend 736 01:08:22,290 --> 01:08:27,529 Stephen Henderson, thank you so much for joining us today here on the Cypress Truck Lines podcast. 737 01:08:27,529 --> 01:08:33,490 Final thoughts from you, my friend. Before we let you go today. Yes, say it with confidence. Don't say 738 01:08:33,490 --> 01:08:39,168 it with pride that whether you think you can or you think you can't. You're absolutely right. I 739 01:08:39,329 --> 01:08:44,129 believed in myself. And I got to where I am. And, Marcus, I'd have to ask you to not put this thing 740 01:08:44,129 --> 01:08:48,450 on the show if I didn't say. Samantha. I love you, sweetheart. To the moon and back times. Infinity 741 01:08:48,450 --> 01:08:53,369 and cancer. You kicked his butt. And I'm so proud of you. And I love. You. I'm so proud of her, too. I 742 01:08:53,409 --> 01:08:59,689 think she deserves a round of applause once again. Uh, full recovery. Uh. Doesn't matter. Stature does 743 01:08:59,689 --> 01:09:04,049 not matter. You mentioned she's petite. She's as strong as anyone you've ever met. Would be my 744 01:09:04,089 --> 01:09:10,289 guess. Without a doubt. That's amazing. Well, Samantha, from all of us here at the Cypress Truck 745 01:09:10,330 --> 01:09:17,049 Lines podcast, congratulations on your recovery and congratulations to you, Stephen, on finding 746 01:09:17,049 --> 01:09:22,369 this career. Um, I can't wait to have you back on this podcast again. Man, I feel like an hour and 747 01:09:22,369 --> 01:09:26,609 five minutes in. We've still only kind of scratched the surface. You're welcome back here 748 01:09:26,609 --> 01:09:32,369 any time, for any reason. Come join us again. This has been a fantastic conversation, Steve, and I 749 01:09:32,410 --> 01:09:36,369 greatly appreciate the time. We'll do. Thank you so much, Marcus. It's been great. 750 01:09:44,009 --> 01:09:50,129 Hats off to Stephen Henderson. What a fantastic interview. That's the longest one we've done here 751 01:09:50,129 --> 01:09:56,410 on the Cypress Truck Lines podcast and for very good reason. Okay, that one deserved. Like I said in 752 01:09:56,410 --> 01:10:02,528 the intro, every single second, and probably could even deserve more seconds. But you know what? 753 01:10:02,569 --> 01:10:07,689 Stephen was so gracious with his time today when we got off the the actual record with him, and I 754 01:10:07,690 --> 01:10:12,889 was just chatting with him on the phone, he's game. He's going to come back on this podcast at some 755 01:10:12,890 --> 01:10:18,489 point in time. In fact, we happened to find something in common. We're both drummers, okay? We 756 01:10:18,490 --> 01:10:24,329 are both animal from the Muppets. We both like to just get behind the set with a couple of sticks 757 01:10:24,330 --> 01:10:29,970 or weapons, if that's what you want to call them, and just hit stuff. And let me tell you, if we got 758 01:10:29,970 --> 01:10:34,969 other musicians out there, I would love to focus some content on the music that you love, the music 759 01:10:34,970 --> 01:10:39,608 that you play, the music that you make doesn't matter. We can get to that another time, and I'm 760 01:10:39,609 --> 01:10:46,089 sure that Stephen will join us for that. Uh, but I digress from that point, uh, because what a 761 01:10:46,089 --> 01:10:51,369 phenomenal interview we just had. It's not easy to come on here and tell all those stories. You know, 762 01:10:51,370 --> 01:10:56,339 there's one thing that really stuck out to me, Stephen said multiple times in that interview 763 01:10:56,339 --> 01:11:02,419 that he struggles with pride. He struggles with being too proud of a person. And I gotta be honest 764 01:11:02,420 --> 01:11:09,019 with you, if that guy struggles with pride, then I need to have a long conversation in a mirror with 765 01:11:09,019 --> 01:11:15,819 myself, okay? Because, uh, he he came off to me as humble. He came off to me as, um, 766 01:11:15,900 --> 01:11:22,739 as as a success story for one. Um, but as somebody who knew that he had control of his situation 767 01:11:22,740 --> 01:11:28,740 and he had to make things work, and so he did that. And listen, I'm no, I'm not the person. I'm not the 768 01:11:28,740 --> 01:11:33,339 authority here. But I'll tell you, if you're allowed to be proud of something, I would say you 769 01:11:33,339 --> 01:11:39,099 get to be proud of this story right here. Stephen Henderson. And, uh, we are so proud here on the 770 01:11:39,100 --> 01:11:43,619 Cypress Truck Lines podcast to have him be willing to jump on and share that story with us. 771 01:11:43,620 --> 01:11:48,819 As I said, it's not always easy to talk about this stuff. And when you're a guy that struggles with 772 01:11:48,819 --> 01:11:55,579 pride to say multiple times I was at the bottom. I was as far down as I could get to be able 773 01:11:55,580 --> 01:12:01,259 to admit to the fact that he was struggling with some addiction issues. You know, being somebody 774 01:12:01,259 --> 01:12:06,779 that has had loved ones struggle with addiction issues, what I can tell you is there is no helping 775 01:12:06,779 --> 01:12:12,579 yourself with addiction until you decide that you want to help yourself. And you can tell Stephen 776 01:12:12,580 --> 01:12:17,459 made that decision, just like the decision he made that he asked to provide for his wife. Just like 777 01:12:17,460 --> 01:12:23,299 the decision he made that he's got one shot, one opportunity, and he's not going to let it slip. Uh, 778 01:12:23,299 --> 01:12:28,859 just to reference Eminem again there, we have to since it got brought up. But, uh, I can't say thanks 779 01:12:28,860 --> 01:12:33,499 enough. And listen, maybe you're listening to this right now as somebody that's never come on the 780 01:12:33,499 --> 01:12:39,059 show, you're out there driving for Cypress or Sunbelt and you go, you know what? Um, that story 781 01:12:39,059 --> 01:12:44,220 inspires me, and I'm going to make some changes in my life, or I'm going to do things a different way. 782 01:12:44,379 --> 01:12:49,019 Uh, maybe you have a story similar to Stephen's that you would like to come on here and tell. 783 01:12:49,060 --> 01:12:54,859 That's what this podcast is for real stories talking about real things, how people deal with 784 01:12:54,859 --> 01:13:00,339 those real things. We're all just humans, man. And I was talking to somebody that I knew at a young 785 01:13:00,379 --> 01:13:07,060 age and I hadn't talked to him for, I don't know, probably 20 years, um, maybe 15, 20 years. And this 786 01:13:07,060 --> 01:13:13,899 is just recently, maybe a few weeks ago. And what we got to in the conversation was that, hey, you 787 01:13:13,900 --> 01:13:19,179 know, we all when we were kids, we thought that a lot of these adults that we looked up to, they had 788 01:13:19,180 --> 01:13:23,460 it figured out, man, they knew what was going on. They were marching to the beat of their own drum. 789 01:13:23,460 --> 01:13:29,619 They were kicking ass and taking names. And now that I am in my 40s and I look back at that young, 790 01:13:29,620 --> 01:13:35,699 fresh faced Marcus that thought all these adults had it figured out. What you realize is everybody 791 01:13:35,700 --> 01:13:41,459 is getting through it in the best way that they know how. And to a young, impressionable kid that 792 01:13:41,459 --> 01:13:46,979 looks like you've got it figured out. But to an adult, you're same age, or maybe you're senior, uh, 793 01:13:47,019 --> 01:13:52,069 it'll look very similar to them as something that listen, this is a road that you have to navigate 794 01:13:52,069 --> 01:13:57,709 and there's probably a ton of potholes in it. There's probably construction. You might be 795 01:13:57,710 --> 01:14:03,190 stopped for a while before you ever get to move forward again. You might not stop moving forward 796 01:14:03,190 --> 01:14:09,789 for years at a time. The point is, it's about how we navigate these things. It's about the reasons 797 01:14:09,789 --> 01:14:15,750 that we have to continue moving forward, whether that be your significant other at home like it 798 01:14:15,750 --> 01:14:20,910 was in Stephen's case, dealing with an illness, whether that be a bunch of kids that you want to 799 01:14:20,910 --> 01:14:25,989 put through college. You know, we talked to Randy about his kids and all the college that he's paid 800 01:14:25,990 --> 01:14:32,829 for through his work with Cypress. Um, these stories continue to go. And that's because we're 801 01:14:32,829 --> 01:14:37,949 all working for a company here. Uh, that that really takes pride in these stories and takes 802 01:14:37,950 --> 01:14:44,349 pride in having the ability to help out somebody so that they can tell these stories. And I'm sure 803 01:14:44,349 --> 01:14:48,069 that some of you are listening to these stories going, well when, you know, when my significant 804 01:14:48,069 --> 01:14:53,430 other was sick. Cypress, let me go home and be there for them and be at doctor's appointments 805 01:14:53,430 --> 01:14:58,269 and all that. That's great. Those are the stories we want to tell here. This one was a little bit 806 01:14:58,270 --> 01:15:04,309 different. Cypress was there as an opportunity for Stephen before they ever even knew what he was 807 01:15:04,310 --> 01:15:10,629 dealing with in his personal life, and still things worked out as good as they did. So that's 808 01:15:10,629 --> 01:15:15,469 why we're here. Okay. And let me tell you, I told Steven this off the air, but I feel like this 809 01:15:15,470 --> 01:15:20,629 deserves to be said on the air. I don't think you guys understand how much it means to me as the 810 01:15:20,629 --> 01:15:26,029 host of this show, uh, that you guys will come on here and open up like that, and and, you know, 811 01:15:26,069 --> 01:15:30,709 Steven told me, he said you got a way of breaking down walls. You're you're good at that part of it. 812 01:15:30,710 --> 01:15:36,709 And I don't know if that's the case. I will tell you. Thank you to Steven for those kind words. I 813 01:15:36,750 --> 01:15:42,148 greatly appreciate any time that anybody tells me that, but I will tell you that it comes from a 814 01:15:42,350 --> 01:15:47,869 place of privilege. In my heart. I feel so privileged that I get to be the one that sits 815 01:15:47,870 --> 01:15:53,069 here with you while you tell these stories and ask the questions. I'll be honest with you, it just 816 01:15:53,069 --> 01:16:00,029 comes from the curiosity and the sort of student of human nature that I am. That, and I'm a 817 01:16:00,029 --> 01:16:06,108 gum flapper who loves conversation. All right. But all jokes aside, thank you. Not just to Stephen 818 01:16:06,109 --> 01:16:11,990 today, but for all of you Cypress drivers and employees that have come on this show and given 819 01:16:11,990 --> 01:16:17,789 me your time. Been so generous with your time, told your stories. This is I mean, we're still just 820 01:16:17,789 --> 01:16:23,029 scratching the surface here. We've just passed the 20 episode mark. We got a lot more of these to 821 01:16:23,029 --> 01:16:29,949 come every week. We'll do at least an hour. Hey, in today's US, in today's sense, I think 822 01:16:29,950 --> 01:16:35,109 we did what, like hour and ten hour and 15, I don't know, there's probably a lot of ums and us that my, 823 01:16:35,150 --> 01:16:40,549 my audio ninja might can slice out, because I was pretty engrossed in that story. And when I get 824 01:16:40,549 --> 01:16:46,239 engrossed in a story, the broadcast chops just kind of fly out the window. I'm just a storyteller. 825 01:16:46,279 --> 01:16:53,159 Or better yet, a story listener at that point. So we'll be back for you. Next week, we want to talk 826 01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:59,680 to you. Head on over to the website podcast.com. That is where you can get in touch with me. If 827 01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:03,959 this story inspired you and you want to talk about it. Let's talk about it. If you've got a 828 01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:08,479 story of your own that you want to tell, let's talk about it. That's why we're here on the 829 01:17:08,480 --> 01:17:14,399 Cypress Truck Lines podcast. Stay safe out there, drivers. Keep the shiny side up. And until next 830 01:17:14,399 --> 01:17:19,519 week. Uh, yeah. Just, uh, just keep those wheels rolling. I, I think I messed that up. I'm supposed 831 01:17:19,519 --> 01:17:24,599 to say, until next week. Stay safe. Keep the shiny side up. This has been the Cypress Truck Lines 832 01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:25,279 podcast.