Some people find trucking because they love the road. Some find it because they need the money. And some find it because everything else fell apart at the same time and the road was the only thing left that made sense. Stephen Henderson is that third kind of driver. In Episode 22 of the Cypress Truck Lines Podcast, Stephen sits down with Marcus to tell his story from start to finish. A career in sales, management, and telecoms that looked solid from the outside. A grandfather-in-law lost. His wife, diagnosed with breast cancer two weeks later. A job and benefits that were gone two weeks after that. Addiction issues make an already impossible situation even harder to navigate. And then somehow through all of it a CDL, a truck, and Cypress Truck Lines waiting on the other side. His wife made a full recovery. Stephen found a career he loves. And the relentlessly positive attitude he brings to this conversation will make you rethink whatever you are dealing with right now. This is not a sad episode. It is one of the most hopeful ones we have ever made. New episodes drop every Wednesday. Subscribe now and listen to this one twice.
Sometimes trucking becomes a job and sometimes it becomes the thing that catches you when life falls apart all at once and Stephen Henderson found it the second way, coming to the road from a career in sales, management, and telecoms after losing his father-in-law, watching his wife receive a breast cancer diagnosis two weeks later, losing his job and benefits two weeks after that, and navigating addiction issues on top of all of it, only to find a CDL, a truck, and Cypress Truck Lines waiting on the other side of the hardest stretch of his life. In Episode 22 of the Cypress Truck Lines Podcast Marcus says he recorded the intro out of order because he would not have been able to sell this episode without having heard it first — and then spent over an hour proving he did not need to sell it at all. His wife made a full recovery. Stephen found a career he loves. And the relentlessly positive attitude he brings to this conversation will make you rethink whatever you are carrying right now.
New episodes drop every Wednesday at podcast.cypresstruck.com
Episode Highlights
The hand Stephen was dealt: Marcus describes it in the intro as a full hand of problems. In the span of about four weeks Stephen lost his father-in-law, watched his wife receive a breast cancer diagnosis, lost his job, lost his benefits, and was actively navigating addiction issues at the same time. Any one of those things alone would have been enough to break most people. All of them at once is the kind of convergence that either defines you or destroys you. For Stephen it defined him.
The decision to get a CDL: Stephen did not come from trucking. He had no background in it, no family connection to it, and no obvious reason to think it was the answer. But when you lose a job with benefits while your wife is going through cancer treatment the calculus changes fast. Stephen needed income. He needed flexibility. He needed something that could give him the ability to provide while still being present for the person who needed him most. The CDL was the answer to a question he had never thought to ask before that moment.
The addiction piece and why it matters that Stephen said it out loud: Marcus addresses this directly in the outro and it is one of the most important moments of the whole episode. Stephen said the word. He did not dance around it or euphemize it or minimize it. He said he was struggling with addiction and he was at the bottom and he decided he wanted to help himself. Marcus notes from personal experience with loved ones that there is no helping yourself with addiction until you decide you want to. Stephen made that decision. Saying it out loud on a podcast in front of thousands of listeners takes a kind of courage that most people do not have.
Eminem and one shot one opportunity: It comes up organically in the conversation and Marcus leans into it in the outro with a genuine laugh. Stephen referenced the Eminem line about one shot and one opportunity in the context of his own life and it fit perfectly. Marcus promises to reference it again every time it comes up because some things are just too good not to. The moment is funny. The point underneath it is not. Stephen had one shot. He took it.
Cypress as the opportunity not the rescuer: Marcus makes a careful and important distinction in the outro that reframes the whole episode. Cypress did not rescue Stephen. Cypress was there as an opportunity before they ever knew what he was dealing with in his personal life. Stephen showed up. Stephen did the work. Stephen made the decisions. What Cypress gave him was a place where those decisions could lead somewhere real. That distinction matters because it puts the credit where it belongs — on Stephen.
We are all just getting through it: Marcus closes Episode 22 with one of the most personal outros the show has produced. He talks about a conversation he had recently with someone he had not spoken to in 15 or 20 years and what they landed on together — that when we were kids we thought the adults had it figured out. And then you become one of those adults and you realize everybody is just navigating in the best way they know how. There are potholes. There is construction. Sometimes you stop moving forward for years at a time. The point is how you navigate it and what keeps you moving. For Stephen it was his wife. For a lot of Cypress drivers it is their families. For Marcus it is the stories that keep coming through the door every single Wednesday.
From The Host
“I told Stephen off the air that this story deserved to be told. And then I got on the air and spent an hour and fifteen minutes proving it. There is something that happens when somebody sits down and just tells you the truth about their life without flinching. Stephen did that. He said the hard words. He talked about the bottom. He talked about what it took to get off it. And he did all of it with this relentless positivity that I cannot fully explain except to say that it is real and you can feel it through the audio. I feel privileged every single week that I get to sit here and listen to these stories. This one is in a different category. I hope you listen to it more than once.” — Marcus Bridges, Host
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Transcript
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How's the weather out there? Cypress and Sun belt. Welcome into the Cypress Truck Lines podcast. I'm
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your host, Marcus. Thank you so much for joining us today. Every single one of you that clicks that
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download or listen button every single day, uh, you're the reason that we're here. And, uh, those of
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you that continue to click and enjoy the content, we greatly appreciate you. Do us a favor out there.
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Just tell a friend, you can tell a friend from Cypress. You can tell a friend from Sun Belt. You
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can tell a friend from outside of the company altogether. We just like it that people are
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enjoying the content, and we want to bring you more content that you want to hear. So when you're
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over at our website, which is podcast.cypresstruck.com, make sure you make use of that button
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where you can send me a message if you want to talk about anything. And I do mean anything as
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this episode that we're about to bring you will prove we can make it happen. That's what we're all
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about. Real stories, real experience. What's going on out there? What are you dealing with? Um, and
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and also, sometimes we get to have a little bit of fun. We get to get a little bit outside the
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trucking box on this episode or on this podcast. And that's something that this episode today is
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going to do. Now, I won't say that we're in here having fun today. We're about to tell you a very
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powerful story, uh, a story that will move you, especially if you can relate to any different
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part of it. And let me tell you, there's a lot to it. Um, I actually, before, uh, getting on with our
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driver that we're bringing on here in just a few minutes, I had no idea the layers to this story,
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and we got to peel it back like the layers of an onion. And, uh, I'll tell you right now, this intro
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is going to be really short. Our conversation went over an hour. It's not necessarily something that
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I tried to do here on the show. I like to keep the conversations, uh, under an hour so that we can
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have a little bit of time to take up any homework or, you know, wrap the show up at the end, but I
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don't care. We're going to run long on this one because this is such a good story. It warrants
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every single second that we spent on the phone together. And to be honest with you, I could
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probably dedicate 2 to 3 more episodes to just telling more about this story, digging in deeper.
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But as it sits right here, I just finished the interview and like I've said before, sometimes
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I'll record these segments out of order, and today is a perfect, shining example of why I
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record them out of order. I would not have been able to sell this episode to you in the intro
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without having known what the story entails, and, um, I, I don't need to sell it to you, to
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be honest with you. If you if you listen past the little musical interlude and into the intro,
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you're going to be hooked and you're going to sit here for an entire hour listening, I promise you
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that. So I don't want to give a bunch away about what's coming up. Okay. I'll tell you. I've got a
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driver. He's here to tell a story. It's a story that he experienced personally, and it's big.
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That's all I'll say. As you're listening to it, though, I want you to think about your own life.
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And I want you to think about a time when you didn't think you had control, but you really did. I
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want you to think about the time when you were at rock bottom, and you didn't think you were coming
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off rock bottom, but you did. I want you to think about a time where a loved one that meant so much
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to you was stricken with something, um, almost unthinkable, and how you would go
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about supporting that person. Maybe it's already happened to you. Maybe you already have these
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answers in your head. That's great. You're going to be able to relate to this next story better than
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most. But for those of you that haven't been through some of these things, think about how you
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would go about it. Think about what you would do in this situation, and that's where you're really
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going to get the meat of this episode. That's where you're going to be able to take something
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from it. And um, aside from that, I can just say, sit back, buckle up, man, if you've got some
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windshield time in front of you right now, you have found the best episode to listen to today, uh,
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of the Cypress Truck Lines podcast. So buckle up, strap in, make sure you got some X's in your
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straps. Make sure your corners are protected. Um, we're not going to shift the load at all here
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today. We're going right down the middle with a human interest story. All right, a true story right
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from the mouth of the guy who lived it. So let's bring him in here right now. Without any further
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ado. Count down to the
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Cypress Truck Lines podcast starts now. Your number one
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professional flatbed podcast here to deliver stories, safety updates and company news directly
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to your ears. Let's get down to business.
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All right. Welcome back into the Cypress Truck Lines podcast here. Uh, this segment is going to be
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a very special one. You heard me say in the open, we got a really cool story to tell here. And, um,
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you know, I think that this story kind of highlights that sometimes trucking just doesn't
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become a job. Sometimes it becomes the thing that catches somebody when life falls apart in one way,
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shape or form. And, uh, this next guest that we have to bring on here, I'm tripping over my tongue
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because I'm so excited to get him on to tell this story. Uh, let's welcome to the show, Stephen
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Henderson. He's a Cypress driver. Stephen, thank you so much for being here today, my friend. Thank you
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so much, Marcus. Glad to be here. Hey, I can tell. Man. And I'm so excited for you to come on and tell
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your story here real quick. I always like to get a little bit of background for my drivers when we
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have them on, so that the drivers listening can, uh, maybe put a name to a voice or, uh, maybe find
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somebody that they want to meet later on down the road. Uh, so, Stephen, how long have you been driving
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for Cypress and, uh, which lane are you in? You regional OTR? So I've been with Cypress for just
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shy of four years. September will be my four year mark and I am currently over the road. I started
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as a South East Regional driver after about a year and a half, maybe a year, year and a half went
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over the road and we are just about to turn a corner to go be a Texas regional driver. Oh wow.
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Okay. Very nice. So you've got a lot of experience out there running the different lanes. And and I
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know that's kind of par for the course with most guys that join Cypress, right. They kind of start
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out in that regional and can move to OTR later on if, if everything goes well. Right. Yeah, absolutely.
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It's kind of you, you prove yourself to make sure that you don't need a whole lot of assistance out
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on the road, because there's times that you may be in Michigan or Iowa, Ohio, and you're the only
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Cypress driver and maybe a 4 or 500 mile radius. So you've got to be able to know what you're doing
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in order to not get stuck in a precarious situation. Yeah. That's interesting. I didn't know
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that you might be the only guy for that big of a radius. I guess if I ever see any of you out here
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in Oregon, I'll assume you're the only one on this side of the Mississippi. Is actually probably the
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way I would think of it. Right. Fairly close. You know, we do have a Texas regional area where
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there's, I don't know, 2025 drivers sometimes. You know, I was out in Colorado. I think that's as of
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right now, probably the furthest west we go. Okay. Is uh, I was in southwest Colorado just a few
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months ago, and I guarantee I was the only one in Colorado or New Mexico at the time. Okay, gotcha. So
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maybe we'll say this side of the Rockies is a better way to put it. Yeah. If you find one of us
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that side of the Rockies, um, you should be giving all of us a call because we're going to be
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jealous if someone got to go out that far. I hear you, okay. All right, well, I'll keep my eyes peeled,
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man. I always do whenever I'm out on the road. I'm looking because that's going to be like a like a
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needle in the haystack moment, right? If I were to get that lucky to see a cypress truck in the wild.
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Uh, man, I'm throwing a party, and we're definitely doing an episode about it, that's for sure. So
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absolutely, a live episode in Oregon would be great. Yeah, for sure, for sure. And and listen, I
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tell I've told drivers on here before, if you are cruising up and down the I-5 corridor and you're
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going to be in the central part of Oregon on I-5 when you hit Eugene, take a 10 to 15 minute break.
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I'll come out and buy you a cup of coffee, I promise you. But again, we know that that's pretty
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rare if it ever happens. Uh, we'll try to make something happen with it, but that's not why we're
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here today. I digress, as I do, I find these tangents and rabbit holes. Steven, welcome to the
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show. Uh, that's just part of it. But we have a very focused reason for bringing you on the show today.
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And, uh, I want to let you tell this story from the word go? Um, so maybe talk to me a little bit about,
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uh, before trucking entered the picture. Uh, where were you at in life? What were you doing? And, uh.
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And what happened? Yeah. So I won't throw any names out there, but, uh, I was working for a couple of, uh,
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telecom giants. We've all heard of them. We know who they are. And, uh, I kind of know a lot of
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things in the sales background. I've been, uh, either in sales, direct sales, uh, sales management
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or general management and restaurants even kind of, uh, for the better part of about two decades. Um,
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but most recently before, um, before trucking, I was working for a telecom giant. And, uh, I'll take you
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back about four years ago this summer. Matter of fact, almost four years ago to the day, um, my wife
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and I were living in Florida and living in the Panhandle. You know, we're a stone's throw from
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both Alabama and Georgia. So it's not the typical Florida like people. Think about it. The woods. Um,
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you know, we're we're 50 to 60 miles from the beach. Um, so it's kind of the backwoods area, and
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we're living on property that we had gained from her grandparents. We were living out there to help
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them. You know, they were we were the only family members within about a six hour range from from
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the grandparents. So, um, we were living in Texas at the time. We decided, hey, the job is allowing me to
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transfer out there. I was able to get a promotion and get a different job. And so we're living the
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high life. We got a brand new house. Everything is going great. Um, and in the summer of
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2022, my wife's grandfather passed away. And, um, it was it was really difficult, you know,
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that she'd cut her teeth on this property, so to speak. Um, grew up out there, and, um, and grandpa was
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gone. Yeah. Um, on top of all that, within just a few weeks of that happening, we
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got we got the call. Um, there was something unusual going on, so we went to the doctor to get
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it checked out. And after biopsy, my wife at 34 years old, was diagnosed with breast cancer. Oh, God.
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I can't even imagine. Man 34. That's really young for breast cancer. It is. It was she. She was a rare
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case. And, um, it it kind of hit us really hard. We went and got the biopsy results. She
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actually told me after I'd come home, she wanted to tell me face to face and, um, you know, again, one
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of the, the places I was working had really good insurance, and she made me make her a promise,
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Marcus. And it was to not lose my job. And, uh, within another few weeks,
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you know, grandpa's funeral had passed, and we're trying to get things in line to figure out what
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to do with her job. I'm sorry. With her, with her diagnosis. And then my job.
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The one thing that I promised her. I broke my promise, and I lost my job, and we're in a brand
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new house. My wife is very dependent right now on me to be able to provide her insurance. And
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and we lost the only income that we had didn't know what to do. And that is so
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tough, man. I can't imagine those, you know, it's hard enough when it's one thing. It's hard enough
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when it's grandpa. We're losing. We're losing kind of the cornerstone of the family here. Somebody
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that we've known for so long. But to pile on top of that, you know, your wife's diagnosis, which is
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just absolutely gutting. I can't imagine how you felt when you got that phone call. Uh, and then on
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top of that, we talk about a life event, like the loss of not just a job, Stephen, but a career. What
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was going through your mind during all of this? I mean, how are you keeping yourself on the level?
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You know, I'm going to add a little bit more fuel to this fire. Marcus. Um, at the time, I was also
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battling some addiction issues. It wasn't it wasn't, uh, drugs or alcohol. And to be sensitive to
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the listeners, I was going places on the internet that a married man should go. I. Hear you. And so I
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was trying to be the one to dictate my happiness. I said, you know what? I'm in the driver's seat. I
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could do this. Well, God humbled me really, really fast and made me realize I'm not in control. And
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the second I try to control things is the second that things are really going to get messed up. So
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I was kind of just in a state of shock. You know, they say you can't go up until you're at the
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bottom of the barrel. And that's exactly what I felt like. I was at the absolute bottom of the
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barrel. I didn't know what to do or where to go. Wow. And and I'm sure, you know, you're you're
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trying to be your wife's support system. You're trying to be that rock. You know, that's why you
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marry someone. That's why you get into a long term, committed relationship with someone is because
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they offer you that emotional support that makes you a better person. You're trying to be her rock
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right now, but you're also going through some things that make it really tough to be your rock.
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Um, I assume that your wife kind of stepped up and helped you pull yourself off the bottom of the
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barrel as well. Can you talk about that a little bit? My wife is a saint. She. She
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is put up with my stuff. Um, in June 9th. I know you test everybody on the podcast, so here's here's
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the answer to your test before you even answer the question. June 9th will be 15 years married.
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Wow. And so, um, we've gone through a separation a couple of times. You know, we've been through some
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rocky spots, but at the end of the day, we hit our knees in prayer and we take everything to God. And
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God is the one that's been the glue to keep us together. So, um, she's had to put up with it. And
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and if I had to describe her in one word, she would be a saint. She's. She's an absolute miracle
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of a wine. Hey, it sounds like it, man. Well, congratulations on 15 years coming up here. Uh, you
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said June 9th. June 9th? Yes, sir. That's very cool, man. So much can happen in 15 years. And you never
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really stopped to think about it while it's happening, you always look back on it, right? Kind
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of like we are today. We're telling the story. But, uh, being in the thick of it, I can only imagine, uh,
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that you guys being able to lean on each other like that really helped out because she's got all
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that. I mean, I can't even imagine what it must be like to get that diagnosis for your wife, but then
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again, to get it for herself. Like you have to deal with what emotions you're going through, thinking
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about what she's going through. She's got to go through those same emotions about herself. It's
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just, I'm I'm starting to sweat, to be honest with you. We've only been talking here for about ten
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minutes, and I'm I'm starting to feel the pressure. This story make me sweat a little bit, and that's
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a good thing. That means that I'm feeling the feelings here. Um, but, Stephen, I just can't even
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imagine how. So how do you want to talk about how you lost the job? Or just do you want to talk
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about from losing the job forward and how you dealt with all the rest of this stuff? Because
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this is your story. I'm only wanting you to tell the parts of it that that you think you need to
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tell. So I I'm not I don't want to ask any questions that might go over a line or anything.
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No, I think it's actually a great way to tie in in in the way this all works. So I was not doing
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anything. Uh, you know, obviously, obviously I'm bad enough to get my, uh, to lose my job, but it was I
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got really tied up with busy work. I was in line for a giant promotion. Uh, the job that I was
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doing is I was a business sales rep, and I was also in charge of about 30 or 40 retail stores
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for their business sales. And I got really good at being really busy doing other things for other
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people that weren't necessarily in my line of work. Ah, so building Excel spreadsheets or, um,
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you know, they basically don't, don't get paralysis by analysis. And that man, that was my that was my
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lane. I, I'm an ops guy. I loved that kind of stuff. And that's where I thrived. But, uh, I got so busy
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doing that that I wasn't focusing in on sales targets and those things. Um, so it wasn't
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necessarily a performance related issue as much as it was. Um, I kind of just became disconnected.
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Which nobody's really surprised when that happens to somebody that goes through what you and your
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wife went through, right? I mean, I think that's a story as old as time. You can always, uh, put on a
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good face when you go to do your job. But let's face it, at the end of the day, what's at home
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comes first. And it's really hard to take yourself out of that for eight, ten, 12 hours a day each day
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just to go back and think about it for the free time that you have, and then try to take yourself
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out of it again the next day. Uh, do you think that that was part of kind of becoming disconnected,
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Steven? Oh, absolutely. And I'm also I was a big person on having
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accountability except for myself. This is a job where I was working from home. I was in a home
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office, and I squandered it. And I, uh, I just got too, too comfortable.
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That's one of the things I struggle with is complacency. Um, and it was just one of those
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things where I was caught spinning my gears, and I should have been more accountable and I wasn't,
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and I dropped the ball. So what was it like trying to balance the shock of losing the job with
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the shock of the diagnosis? Um, it was a whole lot of scrambling.
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Uh, I got the call early in the morning that the separation had happened. And later that afternoon,
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I was out on the road, feed on the street, trying to find a job. I bet in about two weeks time I put
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in no less than 100 applications. I was sleeping for very, very little amounts of time at night
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because I had to be able to get something that the insurance was gone from the subsidized cost.
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So we then had to pay out of pocket cost. And, uh, the thing that nobody ever wants to do, the
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401 had to get cashed in as well. So it was scrambling to find jobs, trying to find money to
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be able to keep the bills paid. We have a brand new house. We got to be able to pay for that on
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top of the medical stuff. So it was a lot. There was a lot of running around like a chicken
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without a head, a lot of sleepless nights and a lot of a lot of prayer. What do we do next? And I
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mean, I hear you say, like, within a couple of days you had 100 plus applications in the dedications.
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Obviously there you know why you're doing this. Your reasons have kind of been laid out for you.
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Um, but was there ever a point where you thought, I don't know if I'm going to be able to get us out
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at this point? Like, I don't know if this has gone too far because you talk about medical bills, man.
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Without that subsidized health insurance, like, sometimes you can get on whatever they call it,
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Cobra or something like that after you've lost your job. And there's kind of a a bridge there. But
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that stuff, I think when it was offered to me, it was four times more expensive than what I was
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paying when I had my job. So that's not always an option either. Um, how close did it get to
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where you you guys were going to have to make a real tough decision, like sell the house or maybe
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file bankruptcy or anything like that before you. You found another opportunity. Well, we were
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blessed. We. We had a decent amount saved up for 401 K. Unfortunately, you have to pay all the
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penalties and everything for that that's associated with it. But I was offered a couple of
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smaller jobs and I was offered to work for the Florida prisons and, you know, things that would at
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least get money rolling. Um, I had a friend that I was going to be able to get a little bit of part
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time work just doing small jobs here or there, but at the end of the day, I need a place that's going
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to be able to offer insurance if that's an option that we just had to take, and it has to be a place
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that would work with my wife's doctors. Um, or there was going to be more medical bills and
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everything associated with it. So, um, yeah, it was it was it was kind of utter chaos. So I think we
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had probably about 2 to 3 months where things were going to get really, really ugly. Sure, sure.
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And and what was going through your mind when those 2 to 3 months were on the doorstep? Were you,
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uh, were you to a point where you were looking outside of your normal scope of of skills and
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experience for work? I mean, you mentioned the the prison system. That's quite a bit outside of what
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you've mentioned here. You did a lot of management. You had a lot of, uh, of retail experience and a
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lot of sales side experience. Were you ever kind of thinking, hey, man, throw this whole thing to the
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wind. If I can get a job turning wrenches or swinging hammers or anything like that, I'll take
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it. Yeah, I was I was willing to put my my name out there on anything that stuck. So,
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um, it was just a few days after it all happened. My, my wife's mom was in town, uh, from Texas. We
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were living in Florida at the time. She came in from Texas to be able to help my wife focus on
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the medical stuff. Because I was supposed to be working. I made that promise that I wasn't
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supposed to lose my job. Well, we all, uh, kind of went our separate ways that night to kind of pray
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and figure out what was the right thing that we needed to do, what's the right move. And believe it
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or not, all three of us came together within about 10 to 15 minutes of each other and we said, what
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about truck driver? What about driving a truck? We know those guys can make some money. Yes, it's a
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way to be away for a long time. But look. What what's out there? Let's see. Let's see what there
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is. And so that's that's kind of how it all started, so to speak, to to shift gears to the
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trucking. Um, is is all three heads come together at one time? And when you did, that was divine
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intervention that all three of us came up with the same answer at the same time. Wow. Yeah, I guess
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so, man. Because, listen, I, I've been making podcasts for truck drivers. Actually, you and I share a
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little bit of an anniversary. It will be four years for me in September, making podcasts
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specifically for truck drivers. And with the amount of drivers that I've talked to in the last
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four years, um, that's one thing that is a, a just a standard thing that I ask guys,
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what did your wife think when you decided that hay trucking was the way to go? It is not often. In
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fact, this is the first time I've ever heard it that three people came into the same room from
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different rooms and said, hey, how about this as an idea? But to have your wife, a person who not only
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you know, depends on you for emotional and support and all the rest of it, financial support? Uh, this
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is somebody who's going through a really wild illness that could be fatal. Uh, and of course, you
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don't want to think about it that way, but talk to me a little bit about her thoughts behind it,
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because, yeah, truck driving entails you being gone for significant period of time. Uh, how did she
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kind of manage that? Where the the I guess the reticence of having you gone all the time versus
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the, uh, the good news about having a solid paycheck that's going to continue roll in and
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benefits and everything like that, that had to be kind of tough on her. It was. And I think the
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reality of her, uh, of I broke a promise to her. So she has a man that's supposed to love
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her standing in front of her, breaking a promise. Now it's up to me to be able to get everything
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done that needs to be done, to be able to take care of everything on the home front. So I think a
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little bit of it was a little bit of excitement that I'm going to be out of her hair for a little
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while, but at the same time, a little bit of apprehension, because now everything falls on her
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shoulders and she's about to go through something very major that we haven't talked about yet. That
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is really going to change how she operates her day to day life. And do you want to get into that
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next or do you want? Actually, I have a question before we get into that big part real quick,
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because we're sort of in the finding trucking area of your story here. And I have to just
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ask you this. Had you ever considered driving a truck before this at any point in time in your
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professional career? Absolutely not. It was the furthest thing from my thought
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whatsoever. Um, I grew up in kind of a white collar household. Um, and
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everything was kind of you put your your Sunday best on to go to work. And not that trucks were
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necessarily looked down on but that was we weren't a blue collar family. That's not that was
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not us. We maybe had, you know, blue collar ideas. You know, we loved to be out and I we raced
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motorcycles and bicycles and all that kind of stuff. But it was never really, um, never really
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even thought of. I grew up in northwest New Mexico, and it's part of a giant oil field area, and you
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kind of have the oil field group, and then you kind of have everybody else, and unfortunately
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it's segregated that way. But, um, we were never really thinking that the rough and tough, um, way
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of life was, was ever going to be part of our family. But, uh, you know, we have to be held
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accountable to our decisions. And I looked at trucking as some apprehension. Um, but,
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uh, to maybe spoil a little bit of a surprise, I, I love what I'm doing right now. Well, we've already
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spoiled it. We know you're driving for Cypress. Otherwise, what are you even doing here? We're both
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lost if we didn't spoil that a little bit. So I you know, I get that part, but, uh, uh, okay. Well that
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that's a really, I think a really important aspect because, you know, some people that we talk to on
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this podcast and on other podcasts that I do, there's some inkling of truck driving being in
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their blood. Maybe it was grandpa was a driver. Maybe it was, you know, grandma, um, had a little bit
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of experience driving a school bus. That's one of them. Or dad worked in the shop for a trucking
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company or something like that, but that's really not the case for you. This is this is a career. Uh,
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that kind of came out of nowhere at the best possible time for you. It sounds like. Yeah,
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absolutely. We, you know, again, we we you see the trucks all over the road, but, um, the closest thing
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I ever drove to a truck was when I was racing motorcycles. I wanted to learn how to drive the
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big rig, because we had a 30 foot motorhome and a 20 foot pole behind utility trailer. Oh, wow. And I
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wanted to learn how to drive it, so I had a little bit of exposure, but never felt like a quote
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unquote trucker because that was, again, that's just not really something that we we really put a
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whole lot of attention to. Um, not necessarily looked down on, but it was, you know, again, there
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was kind of that separation of your blue collar work and your white collar work. And I, we just
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kind of fell in line with the white collar. Sure, sure. Well, and if somebody ever wanted to quiz you,
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they'd say, well, have you ever driven something that's 53ft long before you could say, I got to 50?
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And then, of course, the next question is going to be how many axles? And you're going to have to
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probably say, not nearly as many as what you guys drive, right? That's exactly right.
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Well, uh, how how did Cypress come into the picture? Was this the first company that you looked at? Had
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you looked through multiple companies? Was it something about maybe CTC, uh, that was attractive
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to you kind of talk to me about now you guys are in the room. You've decided that trucking might be
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the way to go. Where do you go from there? So my wife is a list person and everything that we do,
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she packs a list. When we go on vacation, she makes a list for her list she needs to make to do the
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things. So I love it. Everything that she's so organized, it's the way she, uh. She keeps both of
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us together. There's no doubt about it. Well, but, you know, just from personal experience, I'm sorry
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to interject here, but I. I will tell you that the reason that I have to write everything down is
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because the mind never slows down. It's ripping at 8000 rpms all the time. And, uh, you can you you
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have two options. You can be a tourist there, and you can just kind of look at everything as it
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goes by. Or you can grab little nuggets and put them down on paper, and then you get to remember
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them later. Steve. And that's the cool part about the way I go about it. So I'm sure there's some
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similarities there with your wife. Oh, absolutely. She she loves to write things down. And there's,
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there's notes for notes. So yeah, I, I, I can relate with you. Um, but yeah. So Cypress
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wasn't actually even on the radar in the initial part, which is kind of weird. You think I'm in
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Florida, I'm doing all of these internet searches. It would be something that popped up. But again,
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without naming too many names, um, I was offered um and had orientation date
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set for the Swifts of the world. And, and, you know, some of the other, um, truck companies out in Texas
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because, you know, they, they're, they're hiring by the masses. And so I had orientations date set. I
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actually had one ready to go. I was, um, about ready to get details, to get a bus ticket, to get out to
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a company out in the Midwest somewhere. And that night I found Cypress, and I don't even know
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how I can't cross it again. I'm putting in applications left and right because on top of all
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these trucking applications, I'm still trying to put in these other lanes that I'm familiar with.
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I've been doing sales for, again, almost two decades. I know that really well. I'm really good
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at it. But, um, I, I don't I don't even know how it came up, but it did And
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again, I put all these things on paper and I. I had the two top companies on the list. One, I was going
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to be out for three weeks at a time. But Cypress, they they were the only ones that said I could be
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home on the weekends, but still make the amount of money that I needed to make and even more than I
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was making in my previous sales position. So I told my I told my wife we did a pros and cons, and
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at the end of the day, Cypress is the one that won out because of the schooling was paid for at CTC,
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which I didn't have a CDL, so I needed to get my CDL right. Um, so not only was the schooling paid
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for with a year long commitment, but um, they offered a marginal difference, more of not
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necessarily just the dollars, but being able to be there for my wife. Um, such an important thing with
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what you're going through. I'm sure that home every week thing, uh, in your mind is like, hey,
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that's so much better checking in after five days out rather than having to do 15 days out and
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getting to check in only on the phone. Uh, you need to see your wife and make sure that. Because,
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listen, if your wife's anything like mine, uh, it might take a couple of really well thought out
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questions to actually get to what might be bothering her. She would rather not put it on my
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plate. Uh, sometimes she would rather figure it out on her own. And I can only imagine that the life
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of a truck driver being gone for a long stretch. Maybe it's three weeks. Maybe it's three months.
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Who knows? Um, that that, you know, face to face connection is one thing that you really start to
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lose. And I'm sure for you, during this diagnosis, that was a very important part of it.
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Yeah, it absolutely was. Again, my wife's mom was in town to be able to help out with some of the
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essential things, but we're living on property that needs the grass. Cut it. It's a brand new
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house and I don't care if it's a new house or a 60 year old house. There's regular maintenance
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things that need to be taken care of. So I saw this as a golden opportunity for me to be able to
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get a job that I can go out. Um, you know, Sunday through Friday or Monday through Friday, dependent
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upon how things work out, and be home on the weekends to take care of the chores that need to
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be taken care of, as well as anything for her, whether it be cooking groceries, anything like
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that to be able to help out and, um. Yeah. Cypress. Cypress just clicked. It just worked. So here's a
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big question for you. How long was it from the loss of the job that you'd had for a while and
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you were secure in, and it was going to provide what you needed in terms of insurance and income?
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How long was it from losing that job to where it clicked that Cypress was going to be the place? Uh,
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and you went off to to try to make that happen. From the time that the job was lost. That was on
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August 8th, I want to say early early August of the first 3rd of August. And I was in um,
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CTC orientation On August 22nd to 23rd. So less than 20 days. Wow.
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That's amazing. And I just wanted to I wanted to ask that for very specific reason, Steven, is you'd
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already told us that you were beating the pavement, which is something that you know of when
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somebody describes themselves as beating the pavement. That's a little bit, uh, that's a degree
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more than I'm out there hitting the road. That's that means that you are really doubling down.
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You're not sleeping. You've already told us that. You're not getting a lot of rest. You're just
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focused on this. That dedication paid off for you in very quick order. And I just want to
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pause the whole thing and say, I hope that you pat yourself on the back for that, because given the
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situation, given all of these things happening at once, the the loss of, of grandpa, your wife's
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diagnosis, the loss of the job, battling with the addiction, you were a prime example of somebody
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who can just, uh, throw it all to the wind and let life take them over and lose it all. Stephen. And
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you very clearly have been on the exact opposite end of of that coin, and I think that you owe
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yourself a pat on the back for that before we even go any further. Man, that timeline blows my
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mind. You ever get you ever get your mind blown by it just by looking back at it? Now that you're all
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these years removed from this. You know, I try not to think about it too much just because, um, there
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another thing that I sometimes struggle with are not sometimes all the time is pride. I'm a very,
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very prideful person, so much to the point where it's a little bit detrimental. I looked at the
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whole situation of something I had to do. I had I had the option to roll over and just give up, or I
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had the opportunity to dig my heel in and I was already at the bottom of the barrel. You couldn't
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go any further lower than what? I was. Right? And I put my, my, my knuckles in the dirt and I said,
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forward, the only way to go. And and I bet you've been doing that your whole life. That sounds like
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a personality trait to me. Um, a little bit there. There's been some high times in some old times,
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but, uh, there's been a lot of adversity. Um, you know, another podcast, another day to maybe get
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into some of those details. But at that moment, I had to provide for someone who desperately needed
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my help because I'd already let them down. And it was time to really prove that. That I was, uh, I was
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the husband that I had promised her to be 15 years ago. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. So now we're sitting in
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day one, CTC, the big one. That's. I mean, listen, when you talk about trucking in Florida,
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everybody knows Cypress. It's a well-established name. It's been doing it for so long, it's grown to
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such a size that if you knew how it started under a bridge with just a few trucks to where it is
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today, that in and of itself is sort of mind blowing. What was going through your mind, uh, the
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first time that, uh, class started there at CTC. Was, was can your guy back then. Yeah,
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absolutely. So. So day one, week one in CTC school you actually spend the first half of the day with
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Blaine and Randy, and you go through some of the, the legal stuff. You got to go down and get your,
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your either dot follicle test or those that hadn't gotten their physicals done, get all that
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stuff completed. So, you know, we were with 7 or 8 other men who were there in the same boat. We all
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wherever, you know, you could see a lot of fear and trepidation on a lot of people. You could see
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maybe some some cockiness in some others. And I feel like I said just a little bit somewhere in
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the middle where I was intimidated. But at the same time, I've got to make this work. I don't have
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a choice that pride has no place here, and even today, pride has no place. That's how you're going
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to end up upside down in a ditch, right? So absolutely, I, I put this on with a probably the
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most level head that I had ever been in any other job, because everything was about to get real
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crazy. I've got to make this work. So, um. Yeah, Blaine and Randy, uh, the first half of day one, and
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then Ken and Lawrence on the second half of day one. And then you're in the truck moving that
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sucker. Day two, week one. Wow, wow. So the, uh, the, um, a little bit of of, uh,
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fear in people's eyes, a little bit of the, uh, the unknown, maybe not just understanding exactly
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what's going to happen. You know, we spend a lot of time on this show, uh, giving the flowers to the
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people that deserve them in these roles. We just had Randy and Blaine on a few weeks ago. We've had
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Ken on before. Um, you know, Lawrence no longer with, uh, with the company. But Lawrence came on before,
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of course, Cecil Clark and load security. And there's a reason we wanted to talk to those guys
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because they do a really good job, which that translates to really good drivers. So before we go
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any further here, let's talk about those first couple of days. How did those guys impact this
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process that you were going on. Uh, Stephen? Well, I Kenneth Lawrence. You know,
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they were. They were definitely the characters. I definitely saw them as no BS guys. Yep. They've got
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to teach someone who's, you know, I had a guy in my class. The only thing he'd ever driven his whole
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life was a Honda Fit. And so when we're going backwards in these trucks. Yeah. If you don't know
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what a Honda Fit is, you gotta just go and Google it, because it's the smallest thing Honda ever
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made. And Honda makes some small cars. That's why I'm laughing. That's a Honda Fit. Literally takes
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up half a parking spot. You know how many Honda fits I've seen? I thought I had a parking spot and
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there's a dang Honda Fit in. It happens all the time. Stephen. So that's funny. Yeah. Um, you know,
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in the concept of of a truck, if you're thinking about it logistically to make the trailer, when
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you're going backwards to go left, you gotta turn right. Right. You got to go left. It's completely
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opposite. And your whole first week in CTC, we're doing straight backs. You pull forward, you go
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straight back, you pull forward, you go straight back to get those basic, um, you know, easy, easy
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maneuvers out of the way before you start stepping up to a little bit more difficult
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maneuvers. And this, this kid love him to death. Um, we're trying to go straight backwards, and we're
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facing 90 degrees to the left sometimes and 90 degrees to the right. And we're in there trying to
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coach him as much as possible. But at the end of the day, you got to put up or shut up, because when
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that that state examiner comes by to give you that test to be able to get that CDL, you are the
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one that's responsible for it. Nobody's going to be there coaching. Right. So, um, kin kin tells us, uh,
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you know, as the weeks go on or the days go on throughout the week, hey, make sure you guys are
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backing off a little bit. He's got to be able to get this. He's got to be able to get this. And you
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know, he made it through. He was and ended up getting his license. But yeah, there was there was
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a lot of um, timidity but yet respect for what I was doing at the same time. Sure. Um, you know,
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I, I wanted to learn how to pull trailers when I was 16 years old and when dad wasn't around to be
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able to pull stuff around. I'd be on the lawn mower with the lawn tractor behind it, trying to
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figure out how, you know, to back a single axle lawn trailer just to get the basics down. So I
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already kind of had the the basics down, but I was in for a real treat as I went on through the rest
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of it, because it was not as easy as backing up a lawn mower with a garden trailer behind it. Yeah,
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absolutely. And listen, that's no treat either. Okay. A single axle trailer that pivots super quick
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like that. Those would make you pull your hair out fast, too. You just can't do quite as much damage
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with them if you back it into something that you shouldn't have. Right. So that's exactly. Right.
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That's a good that's a really good way to learn. Um, I want to ask you something just to kind of
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tie this into other podcasts that we've had, most notably the last time that Ken joined us. Ken is
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so big. On one statement, Ken says trust the process. How did that how did that touch you
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during the process? You know that every day at 1115. For 45
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minutes, we are required to lower the landing gears. Check the glide hands, look at your fifth
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wheel kingpins and I. The whole time I'm like, why in the world are we doing this 45 minutes a day
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for four weeks straight, right before lunch, too. You're you're wearing yourself out. But at the end
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of the day, I've been doing this for four years now. I've never had an issue with dropping a
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trailer. I've never had an issue with lowering or raising the landing gears. Never had an issue with
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my airline. Because you go through these rudimentary what seems to be ridiculous steps, but
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it just works. You trust the process. And when it's 7:00 and, you know, in the wintertime and it's
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dark and there's only one spot left at the truck stop and you've got a very, very tight, uh,
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parking spot to get into, you have to go back to some of the rudimentary steps that you were
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taught in school. Um, so I can trust the process four years later because it was drilled into you
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at such an early age that it just works. Yep, yep, it really does. And, uh, we've
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got those, uh, those numbers to back it up. Right. They've got a really, really high, in fact, better
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than the state required, uh, benchmark that they keep their CTC. And, uh, I don't know, this is
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probably the 20th time we've mentioned it here on the show. And what, we're 20 episodes in ish 21. So,
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um, you know, hats off to those guys out there. Stephen, you might know a better than any of us
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that are that have come on this show. Um, those guys can take somebody that's used to sitting
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behind a desk and turned them into a successful truck driver. If that person that's making that
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transition can dedicate themselves to the process. Yeah, exactly. I, I started with, I believe eight
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people and a few, uh, were weeded out for one reason or another. And I think there were four of
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us that went into, uh, day one orientation. So, uh, about 50% of the people that started there,
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but those that made it to the CDL test. Every single one of them passed, I bet. I bet so. Were you
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nervous when that, uh, state, uh, test proctor came in and put that test down in front of you? I was,
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because, again, I had to make this work. This is my one shot. It. Mind you, I'm in this class for four
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weeks with no paycheck, right? We have a per diem that's coming in. Sure. And it's basically covering
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my fuel back and forth because I lived about 3.5 hours from Jacksonville, so it covered my fuel to
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get back and forth from home for four weeks. But I had one shot. You know, to quote Eminem, this is my
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one opportunity. I didn't have anything else that was going to work. Yeah. So, um, I, I'm
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pretty sure I filled my boots with sweat because I was just so nervous, but, uh, it came, uh, to test
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day, and I passed with flying colors. I was able to call my wife, and we were able to rejoice at the
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CDL. Um, license was acquired, and orientation was just a few days later. What was that phone call
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like? Can you talk me through that? I mean, how did your wife react when you called her and said, I am
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an official, uh, federal CDL license holder? Well, to be completely honest, I sent her a text
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message that apparently was a little bit cryptic, and she called me in a friendly because I thought
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that my text message, uh, because she. I don't want to wake her up when she was sleeping because I
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tested fairly early in the morning, and I'm an hour ahead of time because we live in Central
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Time in Florida. And so apparently my text message was a little bit cryptic. So she called me
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panicked. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, I've got the license. I'm heading home. So, um, there was a
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I'm sure several skipped heartbeats on her end. Um, but after that there was, uh, it was excitement
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that, hey, this is this is finally about to start going. Um, but the next chapter in holding this
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story is orientation was on Thursday, and my wife was scheduled for a double mastectomy on
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Wednesday. Oh my goodness, that is such a big surgery. I know multiple people that have gone
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through double mastectomies and listen, notwithstanding what it does to you as a woman.
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Okay. Because that's something I can't speak to. I can only call on the experience of my friends and
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loved ones that have been through this. Um, but the women going through that are
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emotionally just beat to a pulp by the time they even get to that surgery. What was going
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through your mind? How did you think what what am I going to do here? I've got to be there for that
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double mastectomy. Can I even. I mean, how mentally would you even be able to start on Thursday
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morning first thing when your wife's probably still in recovery at this point? Uh, probably still
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at the hospital. Stephen. What? Walk me through it, man. Yeah. So, uh, again, I got this job by
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divine intervention, and my wife was not going to try to schedule that surgery in any other time
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than what the doctors could do, because she was ready to get the cancer out. It's ready. She's
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ready to be done with it. Right. And so whenever it's scheduled for whether I'm there or not, it's
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coming out. So, um, again, I passed the CDL test on Friday. Um, we knew what
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the dates were going to be. A couple of weeks ahead of time, you know, so she can go in for a
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pre-op stuff and all these kind of things. And, um, I, I knew that God was looking out for us
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because I was able to be there for the surgery. And believe it or not, she was out of a hospital
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about two hours after surgery and back home in bed, and I was able to make sure that she got home
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in bed and I this was probably about 6 or 7:00 at night, and I drove straight to Jacksonville, was
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there at midnight and in orientation class a little bit before 8:00 on Thursday morning. So, um,
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I knew that, uh, she was going to be better. The doctor said that everything went well on the
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surgery. Her mom was there to take care of her in the immediate. And, um, the one thing that we had
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said before the surgery happened is the fastest I can start making real boy money instead of the
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money that I'm making through training. Just let it happen. And so I was in orientation on Thursday
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and Friday. I went back home that weekend, and two days later I was out on the road for a month
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straight with my trainer so I could get my own truck and start turning my own miles. Wow. What an
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amazing, uh, just an amazing week. I mean, the you stack up all the emotion, all of
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the worry, all of the excitement, everything that goes into starting a new job, especially one that
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entails so much detail, like hauling flatbed. Uh, and then you're going to mix into that cocktail.
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All of the fear, all of the emotion, all of the stress that comes from such a huge diagnosis that
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your wife is going through, um, to be able to even focus for that drive. I, I would like to ask you,
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do you remember the drive after you left your wife home recovering from a successful operation?
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Uh, and then between there and Jacksonville, I would imagine that's just a blur. I would say if
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you could take heavy metal and the fastest punk rock that you could ever imagine and slam them
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together, that's what would be going through my head. Just chaos. Stephen, what was it like for you
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on that drive? If I if I could remember, I would tell you you're exactly right. Um, I
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remember getting her to bed and making sure that she was okay and talking to her mom. Um, you know,
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telling her kind of what the schedule was supposed to look like. And I was going to be
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communicating with her mom, because obviously, my wife is, uh, definitely under heavy anesthesia. Um,
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and I don't even. I don't remember the hotel. I don't remember that night. I remember getting in
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the car to go to orientation to be on time because it's first day at a new job. It's time to,
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um, you know, start making money. And I, I barely remember showing up, but I was there. You were
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there? Yeah. Yeah. That was. That's all I could have given was my presence at that moment. Absolutely.
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And and and you did, man. And you're you deserve a huge pat on the back for that, because there's a
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lot of people that wouldn't be able to just handle all of that. And that's a big part of it.
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You know, the mind works in mysterious ways, and sometimes just blocking things out for three
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hours and giving your mind a second to try to catch up, um, is probably what it was doing there.
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And how awesome that just a few short days later you were out for a month with your trainer.
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Something that we always do on this podcast. Whenever somebody mentions a trainer, I always say,
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you gotta call out your trainer, because I know we've got some fantastic trainers here at Cypress,
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and everybody that I talk to is always more than happy to give their trainers some flowers, because
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it normally goes very well. So who was your guy? My, my trainer was Nathan Desmarais. He's a Texas
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driver. He was over the road for a while. He left and came back. So we're we're also glad to welcome
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him back with open arms. Awesome. Well. Big shout out to Nathan for that first month that you spent.
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And I know you're going to walk us through that here. And, uh, as you do kind of talk to me about
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the the experience itself, you know, figuring out what this job's all about. You've got the CDL now,
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you've gone through the training. You are confident in the fact that you can do the job, but
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now you're really going to get kicked into the deep end of the pool, because these trainers are
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out there to make sure that you can handle it on your own. So, uh, how did that first month go?
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Well, I'll tell you about the first day. So, um, it's, I believe a Tuesday or Wednesday morning. We're in
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low, secure, um, class. And at the time, Cecil was not doing it, so it was, uh, Randy and Blaine or or
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whomever they could have gotten their hands on to be able to help teach these lots of classes. And,
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um, my trainer gets out of his train, the trainer class because he wants to become a trainer. And
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Randy comes over and says, hey, this is the guy that we want you to train with. We know everything
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that's going on with your wife. Are you okay with going out for a month? And I said, I am. We've
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already talked about it. Let's go. And so he is one that likes to get up at midnight on
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2:00. And at the time, man, I'm doing cushy sales jobs. I like to get up at 6 or 7:00 in the morning,
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have some coffee. Stretch my legs. You know, all these things. And I said, wait, like midnight is in,
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like after 11:59 p.m.. What are we talking about? And so I left that day to go catch some
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sleep in the hotel room and get the last of my things. And I meet him at the yard around 10 or
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11:00 that night, and he tosses me the keys and he says, let's drive to Texas. And I said, wait, wait,
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hold on. I mean, I have to drive this thing out there. I don't get a crash course first, and I'm
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trial by fire, so to speak. I'm glad that he did that, because I was able to work the nerves out
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early in the morning. There was no traffic out on the road. Um, and it was it was a great experience
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because, um, my goal when I was going through CTC was to never have Ken
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raise his voice at me because, you know, you do stuff wrong sometimes. We're we're men. We're we're
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we're a little bit thick headed, and we need things drilled into our head a little bit. Well, I
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went through the whole four week process, um, getting nothing but praise in minor corrections.
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Never, never a. Hey, what do you think you're doing? Um, you know, you need to go stand in the corner
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and think about your thoughts before you think this is a job for you or not. So I was I was very,
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very bound and determined to never let that happen. Um, so a lot of that kind of already gotten
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worked out. Um, but then when I, you know, realized, hey, we've got 50,000 pounds worth of product that
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we're about to be hauling halfway across the country. Um, I'm glad that it happened the way it
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did, because from that day forward, um, it's it's far from easy. This job is is nothing in the realm
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of easy. But, um, it was able to let allow me to, uh, put myself to the test because,
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again, I've got the license. This job has to work. And so just made it work. And after that first
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trip to Texas, when you first pull in there to Texas, uh, did you kind of know is that when it
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clicked for you? Is that when you thought, man, once you've shaken off the nerves a little bit, you you
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understand that this is something that you can do. You've got a really experienced guy in the seat
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right there next to you that's helping you along the way. Uh, is that when you knew that this was
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going to work out and your one shot was one that you completed? Uh, for the most part, um, you know,
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the the whole process with your trainer is a totally different experience with them than CTC.
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Because though you're being judged every day, you know, I've listened to the show several times and
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you're you're living with this person, so you're building a relationship with them. You're you're
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going through, um, the whole processes. And so life out on the road, though hard because it's
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something that I've never done before. Um, it really just kind of started to click and I was
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under. Understanding the process, you know. When I first started, I was going to be a Southeast
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Regional driver. So I was kind of getting my bearings. Um, but it, it, I don't know, it was, it was
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kind of just it just made sense. You know, there wasn't anything about it that was daunting, other
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than, I've got to fold and roll these tarps by myself. Yeah, I'll tell you, those things are
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intimidating to look at, man. I when I first saw one of them sitting on the back of the truck, I
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thought, wait, this is something you guys will do by yourself. That's wild. How could I even squat
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that thing up there on the back of the truck? So, uh, that I. I totally understand that, but, uh, it all
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starts to kind of fall into place after just a few days. A few weeks, I assume. Yeah, absolutely. Um,
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again, we were we were out on the road for a month straight, so there wasn't a whole lot of, um, time
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to really contemplate, um, how things work. Because it's just time to put your head down and go to
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work, you know? I've been doing this for four years. And it's not that I don't want to make friends,
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but I've just put my head down and I've gone to work. A lot of guys like to congregate around and
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talk, and I just want to get to bed so I can get up earlier than they do the next day to get the
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miles, get down the road. Ever since I've been here for the last four years, I've been in the top ten
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on the top dog list. Wow. I just want to go to work. I don't want to to play games again. I've got
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to make this work. So I'm going to. That's amazing man. Now you've mentioned some of the names that
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Cypress who kind of helped you pull through your trainer Nathan. We've talked about Ken, of course,
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Randy and Blaine and orientation. Uh, one thing I want to ask you is, from a personal standpoint
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here, Steven. Um, did did trucking restore your confidence in yourself after everything you had
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gone through? We talked about you kind of being at the bottom of the barrel. Um, how did you start
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feeling about Stephen once you really started to get your feet wet in that first month out on the
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road, start to really understand the job. When did that confidence in yourself and confidence in
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your situation start to turn around for you? Um, so I want to say probably around the 6 to 9 month
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mark. So, um, I had talked to somebody about trucking before I got in with the works for a
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completely different company, and he said that you're going to have this kind of puff your chest
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out moment like I just did a man's job type deal. Um, when you get home at the end of the week and
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I'm like, yeah, okay, sure. Whatever. This guy's blowing smoke. He has no idea what he's talking
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about. And in that 6 to 9 month mark, I became a trainer and I got the brand new truck. So I had
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proven myself to the company because I'm a nobody. They have no idea who I am. You know, from the
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outside, of course they do now. But at that time, I'm just as a young, young guy who's trying to
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make a name for himself in the company. Um, and I had proven to, uh, somebody who a company who knows
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what they're doing, they've been doing this for multiple, multiple decades that, hey, this guy kind
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of knows what he's doing. So at that point, there was, um, uh, the puff your chest out, mama. Not so
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much as the chip on the shoulder, so to speak, because, again, I, uh, pride is something I've long
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dealt with, but I could stand confidently at the end of the day and say I put in a hard day's work.
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I'd done what I'm supposed to do that day, everything within my capability. And I'm proud and
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accomplishing what I did. Yeah. You know, it brings me back to, uh. And I know that this is such a
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funny place to pull an inspirational quote from, but it's a quote from the office. Uh, when when the
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Michael Scott Paper Company breaks away and is trying to hire new salespeople and steal all of
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the business from Dunder Mifflin and one of their prospective employees says confidence is the food
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of the wise man, but the liquor of the fool. And that's always really stuck to me. And I wonder, I
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wonder how you take that statement, because there is a fine line between confidence and arrogance.
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There's a fine line between being prideful and being Overly prideful. Um, and it sounds to me
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like you kind of toed that line just perfectly over this transition. Stephen. Yeah. So I worked for
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a company, and I'm not going to do it, quote unquote, because we trademarked it. I don't think
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we have the money to pay for those trademarks on this podcast. So, um, but I'm going to do everything
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that I do, and I'm going to do it better than anybody else. So again, I told you, I'm going to be
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in some of these places, that I'm the only person within hundreds of miles. Right? So I'm going to
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act with integrity. I define integrity as doing the right thing, even when people aren't looking.
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That's a good. Way. So I'm going to throw that pork strap. I'm going to throw that extra out. I'm going
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to do what I'm supposed to do. Because though this company, they want us to be as perfect as we can,
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the family of four that's on their way to Disneyland, it's in the car next to you. They know.
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They don't know it. They need you to be perfect. Yep. Absolutely. So you've got that obligation to
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the motoring public, right? That's exactly right. It's something that I have to. I have to have
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pride in what I do and be confident in what I do. But yeah, the arrogance. Arrogance has no
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place in this industry. If you're going to be an arrogant, cocky driver, you might as well just stay
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in bed that day. Yeah, because. Super truckers, right? Those super truckers, nobody likes them out there.
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That's exactly right. Um, I can't stress enough. You know, when I was a trainer, I'm not a trainer
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anymore. I stopped after a couple of years. Um, my, my, that was my biggest stress is we could be
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friends at the end of the day. But right now, my job is to make sure that you, me and everybody
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around us get home safely. Yes, sir. So, um, there has to be a respect for what we do.
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Um. And, yeah, you could be prideful after you pull those breaks. Right. You can boast all you want to
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after you pull those breaks. Until then, let's be confident and, um, and proud of what we do
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in a in a proud sort of way. Not a pride. Way. Absolutely. Chinh wagon is for after the truck is
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shut down. Right. That's when you can go out there and talk about your exploits. That's exactly right.
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You know, Steven, when we left your wife, uh, she had just been, uh, put down to bed after a
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successful operation. Uh, you're off for a month with your trainer. Her mom's at home helping out.
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Um, talk to me about the recovery. Obviously, we're telling this story here because we got some good
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news. Um, how did the whole thing end up for your wife? Uh, we're we're way down the road now, so talk
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to me a little bit about the process in her recovery. Being without you for that month. How did
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that affect her? How did it affect you? And and how did you guys, uh, extend that recovery through and
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make it as successful as it was? So the biggest thing is the type of cancer and really any type
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of cancer, but specifically the type of cancer that my wife had. Thankfully, she was stage one. Um,
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but it fed on, uh, on sugar. Uh, cancer loves sugar. So, uh, it was also a
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complete diet change for her. Um, my my wife has always been a very, very petite, uh, very petite
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woman. And so she went on a complete diet change where no sugar, no carbs, went on a ketogenic diet.
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Um, and it was, it was kind of kind of crazy that literally one day, out
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of the blue, you're diagnosed with cancer. Um, you know, you have to have this life altering surgery,
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and now you got to change your comfort foods. Yeah. So it was it was a little bit of a culture
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shock, but, um, you know, we're three and a half, almost four years down the road now. Um, and with
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no chemo and no radiation, I am glad and proud to say that she's still cancer free. We're going to
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give that a round of applause here on the Cypress Truck Lines podcast. That's amazing. That is
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amazing. It's an absolute blessing. A miracle really, if you if you want to look at it, there are
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there are so many stories of this not turning out that way. Um, and I'm so glad that we get to tell
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one of the one of the good stories, the success stories here on the show. Um, your wife is is
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living a normal life now. Aside from the diet changes and things like that, everything is back
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to normal for her. I assume at this point. Yeah, 100%. So, uh, along with the surgery, there was some
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reconstructive stuff, but my wife is a horseman, and at 120 pounds, she can throw a 75 pound saddle
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on the back of a horse. Um, and life is just normal. And you would have never thought that anything
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like that had ever happened to her. Um, she she looks great. She feels great. Um. Or, you know, faith
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brought us through, and faith will continue to guide us. And, um, I tell you, she's a saint. She's
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the strongest woman I know. Um, and she has to put up with me, so God bless her. Wise enough
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to say, because, you know, she might she might listen to this podcast. And I always give guys a
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second to, uh, mention their wives, call them out, let them know how much they mean to him here on
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the show. And you've obviously done that just there, Stephen. And what a fantastic story. I'm so
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happy for her. Please give her all of our best from the Cypress Truck Lines podcast. Um, the next
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time you talk to her. But, uh, one part of this story that you mentioned a little bit, you touched
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on it. But, uh, now that we're kind of fast forwarded here towards where we are today, uh,
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there's one thing that stuck out to me when we were putting this episode together, I was talking
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to some of the guys in management about doing this episode, and one of them spoke up and told me,
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he said, that guy loves trucking. And he was very, very sincere about it.
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And I just wanted to put that out in front of you because you've already told me in this podcast, I
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love trucking, but talk to me a little bit about that. When did that love really bubble up and when
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did you know that, hey, this isn't just a stopgap to get my wife back to 100% and make the money we
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need to make. When did you know that this was a career that you had fallen in love with? Stephen. I
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would say fairly early on, um, what's what's great about this job is, uh, though I had an issue with
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accountability before I said I had to make this job work. And, you know, though, I've got to get the
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load delivered on time. You know, mommy is not going to be calling me at 730 to make sure that
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I'm up and doing my job. I have to take sole responsibility for that. But what's great is I
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kind of get to be my own boss out here. Um, but at the end of the day, I've also got an answer to my
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boss, who was my wife. Um, when I bring the paycheck home to her and say, hey, this is this is the
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fruits of my labor over the last seven days. What do you think? Um, so it's that
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that chest puffing out moment, like I said earlier, that, um, I get to look and say, okay, I, I did what I
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did this week. I'm losing weight. You know, I've lost probably 50 plus pounds since I started this
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job, 40 of those pounds being since January of this year. Because I also went on the ketogenic
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diet, I was having some health issues that, you know, nothing major, anything close to what my life
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was. Um, but I just loved it because I get to go out, I get to see the open road. I've been to
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29 states, plus Washington, D.C., since I started this job. Wow. Um, and I get to
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see, um, you know, the wildlife and and nature and get to stay active. Flat betting is
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no. No joke. Um, it definitely keeps you active. Um, and I, I just get to go out and be
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proud of what I do in a way that can support my family and and do the best for a company that I
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absolutely love. That's so well said, man. So well said. You know, it's so strange to me sometimes how
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life can completely fall apart. And it's not necessarily the end of the story. It's the it's
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the brand new opening of not just a new chapter, but maybe even a new book. Um, it's
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it's amazing to me that it can almost completely fall apart and still end up somewhere good, if not
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even better than where it was before. Do you feel better off now that your wife's made the full
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recovery, and you're where you are today versus where you were just four short years ago? Stephen?
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Uh, without a doubt. There's no question in my mind on that. Um, I had a sales manager one time. Tell me
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if you think the grass is greener on the other side, then water your own grass. And so I came
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to a company that's that's got good family, Christian based values to it. And I said, I'm going
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to give it my all. I'm going to water my own grass while I'm here. I was only supposed to be here for
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a year, and here I am four years later, and I can honestly say that I love Cypress lines. I love
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everything they stand for. I love everything that they're about. And I am without a doubt. And we are
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without a doubt. And she is without a doubt in a better position because of it. That's amazing.
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That's amazing. Stephen Henderson I can't thank you enough for coming on here and telling the
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story today, man, you wouldn't believe it if I told you, but the clock just clicked over one hour.
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We've been sitting here talking. It feels like it's been ten minutes to me. And I know that
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there's probably so much more to this story. And. And that's because you're still writing this
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story. This story is so far from finished. Um, but I want to thank you not only for just coming on and
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and being as open as you have been here. Um, but a lot of times, this type of tragedy when it strikes,
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especially when it hits so close to home and especially when it hits, uh, 3 or 4 times over, so
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close to home, it's very hard for a lot of people to ever get back and and talk about it from a
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standpoint of success. And I can tell that, um, you have you have talked to yourself about this,
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you've talked to your wife about this. You know, that where you're at is better now. And it's just
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a it's an absolute miracle to know that everything turned out as good as it did for you
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through all your hard work and dedication, man. Um, congratulations on this, Stephen. I know that
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there's for every story like yours out there, there's probably ten stories where it didn't work
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out as good or even at all for somebody. And, um, I think that you are the proof that
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you are in control of that as the person that's going through these things, whatever you're going
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through out there. And listen, um, while I've been fortunate and I haven't had, um, a lot of health
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problems myself, I do have a lot of family members and friends and loved ones that have been
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stricken with cancer. Um, I've got a lot of friends that have dealt with addiction. Um, my wife has
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dealt with addiction. None of those things are easy. And when you add to it, a cornerstone of the
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family, uh, passing away, it it just twists you into all different directions. And I
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can't believe how much success you found, man, I would put you up against anybody to do anything.
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It sounds to me like you have found your home, and, uh, we're going to have to pry that steering wheel
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out of your fingers if we ever want to take it from you. Because you're in love with this company,
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you're in love with this gig, and it kind of sounds like you're in love with the road, too, man.
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Yeah, absolutely. You know, I want to get back regional to be able to see the wife a little bit
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more on the weekends and help her out with some stuff out in Texas. But, uh, yeah, this is this is
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definitely a what I didn't think was going to turn into a career now is. That's amazing. Well,
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listen, we always give an area for whoever joins us on this show to share their final thoughts
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with us. And this segment is meant to wrap up the entire segment. If there's anything that you
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didn't get to talk about, that is part of the story that you want to tell, please, now's the time.
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If you want to give a shout out to say that awesome wife of yours or any of the people that
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helped you along the way, you can do that too. Or, uh, we can just wrap it up here, Stephen. But the
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point is, the floor is yours for these last couple of minutes. And again, I just want to say thank you
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for coming on and telling this story. This is a powerful story and a gravitational one that, again,
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I think shows that you are in control of your situation. Sometimes you just have to work very,
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very hard to pull yourself up off the bottom. You're a shining example of doing that. My friend
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Stephen Henderson, thank you so much for joining us today here on the Cypress Truck Lines podcast.
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Final thoughts from you, my friend. Before we let you go today. Yes, say it with confidence. Don't say
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it with pride that whether you think you can or you think you can't. You're absolutely right. I
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believed in myself. And I got to where I am. And, Marcus, I'd have to ask you to not put this thing
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on the show if I didn't say. Samantha. I love you, sweetheart. To the moon and back times. Infinity
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and cancer. You kicked his butt. And I'm so proud of you. And I love. You. I'm so proud of her, too. I
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think she deserves a round of applause once again. Uh, full recovery. Uh. Doesn't matter. Stature does
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not matter. You mentioned she's petite. She's as strong as anyone you've ever met. Would be my
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guess. Without a doubt. That's amazing. Well, Samantha, from all of us here at the Cypress Truck
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Lines podcast, congratulations on your recovery and congratulations to you, Stephen, on finding
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this career. Um, I can't wait to have you back on this podcast again. Man, I feel like an hour and
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five minutes in. We've still only kind of scratched the surface. You're welcome back here
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any time, for any reason. Come join us again. This has been a fantastic conversation, Steve, and I
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greatly appreciate the time. We'll do. Thank you so much, Marcus. It's been great.
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Hats off to Stephen Henderson. What a fantastic interview. That's the longest one we've done here
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on the Cypress Truck Lines podcast and for very good reason. Okay, that one deserved. Like I said in
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the intro, every single second, and probably could even deserve more seconds. But you know what?
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Stephen was so gracious with his time today when we got off the the actual record with him, and I
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was just chatting with him on the phone, he's game. He's going to come back on this podcast at some
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point in time. In fact, we happened to find something in common. We're both drummers, okay? We
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are both animal from the Muppets. We both like to just get behind the set with a couple of sticks
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or weapons, if that's what you want to call them, and just hit stuff. And let me tell you, if we got
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other musicians out there, I would love to focus some content on the music that you love, the music
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that you play, the music that you make doesn't matter. We can get to that another time, and I'm
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sure that Stephen will join us for that. Uh, but I digress from that point, uh, because what a
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phenomenal interview we just had. It's not easy to come on here and tell all those stories. You know,
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there's one thing that really stuck out to me, Stephen said multiple times in that interview
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that he struggles with pride. He struggles with being too proud of a person. And I gotta be honest
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with you, if that guy struggles with pride, then I need to have a long conversation in a mirror with
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myself, okay? Because, uh, he he came off to me as humble. He came off to me as, um,
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as as a success story for one. Um, but as somebody who knew that he had control of his situation
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and he had to make things work, and so he did that. And listen, I'm no, I'm not the person. I'm not the
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authority here. But I'll tell you, if you're allowed to be proud of something, I would say you
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get to be proud of this story right here. Stephen Henderson. And, uh, we are so proud here on the
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Cypress Truck Lines podcast to have him be willing to jump on and share that story with us.
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As I said, it's not always easy to talk about this stuff. And when you're a guy that struggles with
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pride to say multiple times I was at the bottom. I was as far down as I could get to be able
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to admit to the fact that he was struggling with some addiction issues. You know, being somebody
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that has had loved ones struggle with addiction issues, what I can tell you is there is no helping
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yourself with addiction until you decide that you want to help yourself. And you can tell Stephen
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made that decision, just like the decision he made that he asked to provide for his wife. Just like
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the decision he made that he's got one shot, one opportunity, and he's not going to let it slip. Uh,
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just to reference Eminem again there, we have to since it got brought up. But, uh, I can't say thanks
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enough. And listen, maybe you're listening to this right now as somebody that's never come on the
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show, you're out there driving for Cypress or Sunbelt and you go, you know what? Um, that story
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inspires me, and I'm going to make some changes in my life, or I'm going to do things a different way.
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Uh, maybe you have a story similar to Stephen's that you would like to come on here and tell.
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That's what this podcast is for real stories talking about real things, how people deal with
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those real things. We're all just humans, man. And I was talking to somebody that I knew at a young
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age and I hadn't talked to him for, I don't know, probably 20 years, um, maybe 15, 20 years. And this
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is just recently, maybe a few weeks ago. And what we got to in the conversation was that, hey, you
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know, we all when we were kids, we thought that a lot of these adults that we looked up to, they had
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it figured out, man, they knew what was going on. They were marching to the beat of their own drum.
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They were kicking ass and taking names. And now that I am in my 40s and I look back at that young,
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fresh faced Marcus that thought all these adults had it figured out. What you realize is everybody
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is getting through it in the best way that they know how. And to a young, impressionable kid that
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looks like you've got it figured out. But to an adult, you're same age, or maybe you're senior, uh,
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it'll look very similar to them as something that listen, this is a road that you have to navigate
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and there's probably a ton of potholes in it. There's probably construction. You might be
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stopped for a while before you ever get to move forward again. You might not stop moving forward
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for years at a time. The point is, it's about how we navigate these things. It's about the reasons
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that we have to continue moving forward, whether that be your significant other at home like it
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was in Stephen's case, dealing with an illness, whether that be a bunch of kids that you want to
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put through college. You know, we talked to Randy about his kids and all the college that he's paid
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for through his work with Cypress. Um, these stories continue to go. And that's because we're
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all working for a company here. Uh, that that really takes pride in these stories and takes
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pride in having the ability to help out somebody so that they can tell these stories. And I'm sure
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that some of you are listening to these stories going, well when, you know, when my significant
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other was sick. Cypress, let me go home and be there for them and be at doctor's appointments
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and all that. That's great. Those are the stories we want to tell here. This one was a little bit
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different. Cypress was there as an opportunity for Stephen before they ever even knew what he was
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dealing with in his personal life, and still things worked out as good as they did. So that's
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why we're here. Okay. And let me tell you, I told Steven this off the air, but I feel like this
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deserves to be said on the air. I don't think you guys understand how much it means to me as the
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host of this show, uh, that you guys will come on here and open up like that, and and, you know,
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Steven told me, he said you got a way of breaking down walls. You're you're good at that part of it.
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And I don't know if that's the case. I will tell you. Thank you to Steven for those kind words. I
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greatly appreciate any time that anybody tells me that, but I will tell you that it comes from a
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place of privilege. In my heart. I feel so privileged that I get to be the one that sits
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here with you while you tell these stories and ask the questions. I'll be honest with you, it just
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comes from the curiosity and the sort of student of human nature that I am. That, and I'm a
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gum flapper who loves conversation. All right. But all jokes aside, thank you. Not just to Stephen
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today, but for all of you Cypress drivers and employees that have come on this show and given
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me your time. Been so generous with your time, told your stories. This is I mean, we're still just
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scratching the surface here. We've just passed the 20 episode mark. We got a lot more of these to
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come every week. We'll do at least an hour. Hey, in today's US, in today's sense, I think
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we did what, like hour and ten hour and 15, I don't know, there's probably a lot of ums and us that my,
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my audio ninja might can slice out, because I was pretty engrossed in that story. And when I get
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engrossed in a story, the broadcast chops just kind of fly out the window. I'm just a storyteller.
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Or better yet, a story listener at that point. So we'll be back for you. Next week, we want to talk
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to you. Head on over to the website podcast.com. That is where you can get in touch with me. If
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this story inspired you and you want to talk about it. Let's talk about it. If you've got a
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story of your own that you want to tell, let's talk about it. That's why we're here on the
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Cypress Truck Lines podcast. Stay safe out there, drivers. Keep the shiny side up. And until next
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week. Uh, yeah. Just, uh, just keep those wheels rolling. I, I think I messed that up. I'm supposed
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to say, until next week. Stay safe. Keep the shiny side up. This has been the Cypress Truck Lines
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podcast.