Hunting as a Tradition: The Shot That Started It All
Released 10/21/2026
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Episode description
If hunting is in your blood, this one is going to hit different. Clay Hamblen sits down with Marcus Bridges for one of the most relaxed and genuine conversations the Cypress Truck Lines Podcast has ever had, a wide-open campfire chat about what it means to pass hunting traditions down to the next generation. Clay learned from his uncles, and now he’s watching his own kids catch the same fever that turns a weekend in the woods into a lifelong obsession. They went deep on all of it: deer hunting, elk, waterfowl, archery versus rifle, piebald animals, modern hunting tech, and the kind of moments in the field that you never forget no matter how many tags you fill. If you have ever sat in a blind before first light or spent an early morning teaching your kid how to draw back a bow, you already know what this episode is about. This is the conversation you would have around the fire after a big weekend. Pull up a chair and listen now.
Some episodes of the Cypress Truck Lines Podcast are about the miles, but this one is about the memories. Clay Hamblen, a 30-plus year hunting veteran who once guided elk hunters in the mountains of Colorado just northeast of Steamboat Springs, sits down with Marcus for one of the most personal conversations the show has had yet. Clay grew up just west of Indianapolis, where his uncles introduced him to deer hunting around age 8 or 9, and a childhood friend named Jake Powers pulled him into archery shortly after, lighting a fire that never went out. Now Clay is watching that same fire catch in his four kids, and he just came off one of those rare weekends that reminds you exactly why you started: his oldest son harvested his first deer with a bow, his wife Lindsay joined her son for a successful hunt, and his daughter Kenley took down a remarkable buck, all in a single Saturday evening in Georgia. On top of that, Clay and Marcus discovered they had both encountered piebald deer and elk on the exact same day, on completely opposite sides of the country, which is about as close to a Powerball ticket as you can get in the woods. They talk about hunting ethics, the real cost of gearing up four kids, chasing a Canadian moose that keeps slipping away, epic waterfowl trips on the North Platte with the Penland family, and why the greatest thing you bring home from a hunt is rarely the thing you hang on the wall.
EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS
Archery runs in the family: Clay’s path into hunting started with his uncles and took off when a friend introduced him to archery tournaments at age 11. Decades later, his oldest son just killed his first deer with a bow, and all four of his kids are now shooting regularly and asking to skip school for hunting season.
One extraordinary Saturday evening: In a single Georgia evening, Clay’s oldest son got his first archery kill, Clay’s wife Lindsay was on stand with their son when he harvested a doe, and daughter Kenley took down a big buck that most hunters would never even get a look at. Three shot, three recovered, all ethical.
The piebald coincidence: Clay and Marcus each encountered a piebald animal on the same day, in Georgia and northeast Oregon, respectively. Marcus’s father connected with a piebald cow elk while Clay’s group had a piebald doe walk within arm’s reach and never got a shot off. Clay has seen three piebalds in 30-plus years of hunting. Two of them came from the same property.
From the field to the guide stand: After getting cut from the Bengals and watching Arena One fold in 2008, Clay spent a season guiding elk hunters just northeast of Steamboat Springs, Colorado. He called in bulls on horseback, learned to read the rut, and packed out animals at elevation before deciding it was time to get his life in order.
Hunting cradle to grave: Clay’s family does it all themselves, from scouting and pre-season stand prep to processing the meat at home. His kids have butchered more deer than most grown adults, and that hands-on ethic is exactly what Clay is most proud of passing on.
The white whale conversation: Marcus finally drew his Oregon antelope tag after 30 years of applying and tagged out on the last day. Now he is chasing bighorn sheep or mountain goat. Clay’s white whale is a Canadian moose hunt with his kids that keeps getting postponed by a schedule that never slows down.
What Clay said at the end: For those of you grinding it out in trucking, no matter what your role is, you need something that lets you disconnect and feel like yourself again. For Clay it is the woods. Whatever yours is, make time for it.
From The Host
"At some point, the thrill of personal success becomes secondary to the joy of helping someone else experience that personal success. And I think we got a really good picture of that today."— Marcus Bridges, Host
Transcript
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There's something about being in the woods before sunrise. The world hasn't quite woken up yet. The
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air is cold, the ground is quiet. And somewhere out there in the darkness, there's an animal that
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spent its entire life learning how to avoid people like you. You might spend the next ten
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hours looking for it. You might walk ten miles. You might freeze your tail off getting soaking wet,
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and come home without ever laying eyes on the thing you went out there to find. And you know
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what? You'll probably wake up tomorrow and do it all over again. Now, to somebody
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who's never hunted, that might sound like a miserable way to spend a weekend. But to those of
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us who have spent our lives doing it, there's something about that experience that's almost
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impossible to put into words. And sometimes it's not until you've been doing it for 30 or 40 years
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that you really begin to understand why. Because when I think about some of the greatest hunts of
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my life. I don't necessarily remember the size of the animal, the distance of the shot, how many
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miles I walked. I remember my dad. I remember the lessons that he taught me and continues to
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teach me the opportunities he gave me, the times when he stepped aside so that I could have the
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first shot. And I remember the feeling of standing next to him when everything finally came together.
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And my guest today knows that feeling, but he is experiencing it from the other side now. Clay
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Hamblen has spent more than 30 years hunting. He's chased game across the country. He spent a season
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guiding elk hunters in the Colorado mountains, and accumulated the kind of stories that could keep a
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campfire burning until after sunrise. But ask him what makes him the happiest these days.
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It's watching his kids experience the very same things that made him fall in love with the
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outdoors in the first place. And Clay's family just had one of those hunting weekends that
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they'll be talking about for the rest of their lives. We've also got one of the strangest
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coincidences I've ever experienced in the field. Two hunters on opposite sides of the country,
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encountering something so unusual that I still can't quite believe that it happened on the same
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day. We'll get into that, along with the hunts that got away, the ones we're still dreaming about, and
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what it means to pass this tradition on to the next generation. But whether you're a lifelong
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hunter, somebody who's never picked up a rifle or a bow, or just somebody who understands the
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importance of getting away from the daily grind, I think there's something in this conversation for
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you, because sometimes the greatest thing you bring home from a hunt isn't something you can
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hang on the wall. It's a memory that you get to carry for the rest of your life. This is the
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Cypress Truck Lines podcast. Let's get into it. Let's.
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Count down to the Cypress Trunk Lines podcast starts now.
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news directly to your ears. Let's get down to business.
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How's the weather out there? Cypress and Sun belt. Welcome into another episode of the Cypress Truck
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Lines podcast. I'm your host, Marcus. Thank you so much for being here with me today. To all of you
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that went out there and clicked download on your favorite podcast platform, or maybe you went over
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to our website podcast.Cypresstruck.com and click play. You're the reason that we do this and we
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greatly appreciate you doing so. Now I'm going to keep the homework right here, the same as it's
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been for weeks on end now because we do feel it moving the needle. And I know that you guys are
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out there doing the Lord's work for us. So all you gotta do, if you've ever gotten anything out of
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this podcast, maybe we made you laugh. Maybe we taught you something. Maybe you just learned
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something about the lure of the company that you never knew before. If any of those things or any
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other things move the needle for you. Ever tell a friend, tell somebody out there driving a cypress
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are out there that are making that happen for us. So thank you for that and thanks for checking out
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the website once again. podcast.cypresstruck.com. You can send me an email directly there, and I'd love
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to hear from you guys. If you want to hear something on this podcast or you want to come on
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this podcast, you know you're always welcome. Uh, if you're out there working under the Cypress and
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Sun Belt umbrella. So what are we getting into today? Well, in a word, hunting. But I
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think it's a little bit more than that because, you know, I've wanted to do a hunting episode on
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this show for quite some time, and I recognize that not everybody listening to this show is
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going to be a hunter. Uh, some of you have probably spent your whole lives in the woods. Others might
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think that it's a little crazy getting out of a perfectly warm bed at three in the morning to
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walk out into the freezing cold, the snow, the rain, whatever the case may be. And that's fair. I
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totally get it. Uh, sometimes when I think about my hunts kind of zoomed out and I look at what I'm
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going through and the week leading up and all the preparation and a seven and a half to eight hour
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drive just to get where I want to go. Hunting. I can see how somebody that doesn't do this would
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think that that is crazy and I respect it. But one of the things I hope comes through in this
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conversation is that hunting is about a whole lot more than just simply taking down an animal.
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It's about patience. It's about preparation. It's about respecting something that's bigger than you
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are. And for a lot of us, it's about family. Okay, I really can't say that. Uh, Clay Hamblen, somebody
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I've known through Cypress for quite a while now. And while I knew he was an avid outdoorsman. Uh,
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what I didn't fully appreciate until this conversation was just how deeply hunting is woven
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into his family's life, just like it is to mine. And the timing of this interview couldn't have
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been better. Both of us had just come off some pretty extraordinary experiences in the field
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that might even qualify for that once in a lifetime moniker. So today we're
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trading the usual trucking talk for a little campfire conversation. And let me tell you, it's a
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fantastic campfire conversation. And I hope that whether you're a hunter or not, you'll recognize
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something familiar in the reasons that we love doing what we do. It's not necessarily about the
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hunt itself. It's about breaking away from that daily grind. It's about getting away from
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everything that might be causing you stress and getting to somewhere where you don't feel that
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anymore. Maybe that's a hunt, maybe it's a race track, maybe it's the deep ocean blue. It can be
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anything for anybody. But today we're kind of focusing on the hunt. So let's get Clay Hamblen in
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here. Tell some campfire stories.
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All right. Welcome back into the Cypress Truck Lines podcast. Now, this episode, as I told you in
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the open, is very near and dear to my heart and I've been looking forward to it for a while. And,
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uh, the, the guy joining me here actually had sort of a similar experience, and I feel like we should
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buy a lottery ticket because of it here just a couple of weeks ago. But we'll get into that as we
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move forward through this interview. Uh, but please welcome Clay Hamblen back to the show. Clay, it's
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been a while since we've had you on, man, but we always appreciate the time. Thank you so much for
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being back with us today. Appreciate it. Marcus. Looking forward to our discussion today. One of
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the very first things that you and I ended up kind of down a rabbit hole about all the way back
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when I was in Jacksonville, figuring out all the things I could learn about Cypress and Sun Belt. Uh,
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you guys got out some, uh, some hunting pictures, and and you were showing them amongst yourselves.
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And as I am want to do, I kind of eavesdropped on that conversation and became part of it because I
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of course, I'm a big hunter too, myself. Clay. Um, let's talk about it just from kind of the origins
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here, going all the way back. Man hunting always seems to be a thing that is started, uh, with some
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sort of family lineage, and I want to know how it all got started for you. When did you start? Who
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was the first one that put a gun and a bow, or a bow in your hand and sort of taught you how to
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hunt? Yeah. No doubt. So I grew up, um, you know, just west of Indianapolis and
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Indiana and, uh, really it was, uh, my uncles, uh, that really got me into the
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outdoors. Uh, my dad was big into fishing. So did a lot of fishing, you know, from the time I could
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walk on up. But, uh, it was probably, you know, around 8 or 9 years old when I really got into hunting
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with my uncles. So my Oberon, Uncle Steve, I used to spend, you know, a lot of weekends down there,
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deer hunting with them. And, uh, you know, they got me into it. And then I had a good friend of mine
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that, uh, I guess one of I was 11 years old. It was, um, 12 year old all
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Stars, I guess. Uh, and, uh, his name was Jake Powers. I had a bow I kind of dabbled in it,
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but he saw archery tournaments. And so as we got to, you know, playing baseball tournaments together,
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conversation got up. I can't exactly remember. But, uh, long story short, I ended up over at his house
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getting into, um, archery. And next thing you know, I'm, you know, shooting archery tournaments with
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him. Um, you know, join the archery club. And, uh, you know, that was a lot of fun. We spent all night
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long shooting, you know, just hundreds and thousands of shots. And, uh, so archery got in my
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blood, and, uh, the rest is history. And like I said, we we were fortunate enough to, uh, you know, we
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were in the suburbs, so, you know, we were just outside of Indianapolis, so, you know, in the
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country. And so we had hunting property, you know, right around us. And so it wasn't a big, you know,
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it didn't take a lot of travel to get there. Uh, so spent a lot of time in the woods and on the water
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growing up. I bet, man, I bet. And has it always been archery for you, clay? Or have you dabbled in the
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rifle hunting as well? And what's your preference? Oh yeah. No, absolutely. So obviously when I was
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younger, I just, uh, would pretty much always take a bow to the, you know, to the woods with me, but,
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um, you know, I'd still gone hunt gun season. Come in. You know, we we'd take shotguns. When I was
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growing up, there wasn't, uh, rifle season. It was shotguns. Only in Indiana. So, you know, grew up
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shotgun hunting and, uh, and archery hunting. And then, uh, as I got older and had kids, kind of put
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the bow away, um, and, uh, started getting them into hunting and of course, um, you know, pretty much
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only gun hunted. And to be honest with you, just this past weekend, my, my oldest son killed his
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first, uh, horses, his first deer with a bow. Uh, so that was good. And, um, so they're they're all into
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archery, um, now, and and shooting a lot. And so now I'm sure they're, uh, they've got the, the itch
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now. And they're taking the bow, uh, to the stand with them. So it's it's carried on past it down.
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That's so cool. I bet that feels really great as a as a father, to see them get excited about it as a
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young age, just like you did. Absolutely, absolutely. It's, uh, man, it's it's probably my
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most enjoyable pastime. We're heavily involved in sports football, gymnastics, baseball, basketball. So
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we're a big sports family. Uh, but, man, there's not, uh, better memories that we've created, uh, with my
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kids. Um, then than in the outdoors, you know, hunting and fishing. You know, when I was, I
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want to say, about 13 years old, um, was was my first crack at a at a deer. Now, I'd been hunting
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for a couple of years. Uh, but I still remember that, like, it was yesterday. Uh, we didn't get many
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whitetail around the the places that I was hunting at the time. It was mostly mule deer. And
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here's this little three point whitetail out there laying in the field and it would not get up.
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And my very first shot at a live buck with my 243 feather light model
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clay, um, took one of the antlers clean off. I mean like an inch or two above the head. Just shot the
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antler clean off. Obviously. Didn't have a lot of practice at the time, but as I said, when that
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thing jumped up and tried to run off, I was able to I was able to drop it. And I remember it like
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it was yesterday. Tell me about the very first, uh, big game that you harvested clay. Was it a deer?
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And and how did it go? Yeah, yeah. So I was, uh, I guess I was 9 or 10, and, uh, it was
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actually my first one was with a bow. And, uh, that was after, you know, I got to shooting, um, getting
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into the archery tournaments and everything, and it was, uh, my Uncle Ron's property that he had.
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And, uh, back then, you know, you didn't have to have hunters head or anything like that. He'd say, hey,
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here's your stand over here. You know, you're walking in in the dark. And sure enough, a big
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mature doe came in and made it. Made a good shot on it and went and got my uncle. And we tracked it
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and found it. And that was, uh, that was the first one I'd ever harvested. And I bet you can you
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can still almost feel the way that you felt deep down in your stomach when that thing went down, I.
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That's why I say I remember it like it was yesterday. And. And the feeling I don't think
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really changes, right? At least for me, every single time I get out there. And I have the ability to
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harvest something and I, you know, I make a good shot and everything falls into place. The feeling
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that I still get in my stomach is the same feeling that 13 year old Marcus got. And, um, I
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think it's that way for everybody, you know? My dad and I took down, uh, a couple of cow elk on back to
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back days here just a few weeks ago, uh, out here in Oregon. And, you know, of course, the first thing
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we do after that thing goes down and we know it's on the ground is grab each other and give each
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other a big hug, and you can feel the energy coming off of somebody after they're able to. To
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do that because it's so many feelings, it's, hey, I finally beat this thing that beats me every time
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I come out here. I've now got meat in the fridge. When times are tough, I get to do this with my
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family, which is always just so important. Um, you you still get that same feeling deep down inside,
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as it's still just as exciting as it was for nine year old Clay. Oh my gosh. Yeah. It's, uh, it's
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actually ten times better now that I have kids too. So to be honest with you, since my kids, my
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oldest daughter has been old enough to hunt, um, I haven't done as much hunt. I'm hunting vicariously
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through them. So, you know, we, uh, we spend a ton of time in the woods, but with four kids, you know, I'm
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constantly having to juggle. I can only take so many at one time, you know? So. But just, you know,
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teaching them the right way for me. You know, we we live off a deer meat. I mean, we, you know, we
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harvest, uh, you know, a certain amount every year. It makes us through till the next year. And
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there's nothing more healthy, you know, for you than than lean deer meat. And, um, and so we, we, we
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consume a lot. And with a family of six, it, it takes a few to, to make it. Man. Um, but know
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as far as that feeling is, I, I used to get so fired up and excited about it. And like you said,
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you go so many times of weather, you're not seeing anything or you don't get an opportunity. When you
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finally get the opportunity and it all comes together, it's super rewarding. And so now my kids
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are diehard. They love it every chance they get. You know, they're asking me to skip school. Can you
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take off work? Can you do this? I'm like, oh, we're gonna have to wait, you know? But yeah, there was
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multiple times where I'd have them all three in the blind or, you know, doing, you know, whatever we
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can to get them out there. But now they're getting old enough. And my wife, she's a city slicker now.
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So me and her grew up completely different. You know, uh, her family, you know, hunted. But she never
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did. And she's just kind of a was a city slicker. And, um, she's adapted. Uh, so to
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be honest, with this, this last weekend, we had an exceptional weekend, kind of a, uh, epic weekend. It
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was you season in Georgia. We ran up there. The hurricane came through kind of the perfect storm.
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The weather conditions were right. You know, my oldest, you know, harvested his first one with a
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bow. I mean, he's he's shot a lot of deer, but this was his first archery, uh, kill. And then, um, my mil,
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uh, son, uh, went with my wife. Lindsay took her to the stand, and, um, they were
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able to to harvest the doe as well. And so that was the first time she'd been on the hunt, uh, with
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one of our kids and got to actually, um, you know, see it happen and experience that. And then I was
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with my daughter and, um, and my youngest son, uh, so my 15 year old and my nine year old
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and, um, which I know we were going to touch on this, but yeah. Let's talk. We had a piebald doe in
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this area, so my nine year old is like obsessed with, hey, we got to get this piebald doe, you know,
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and we had an opportunity a couple weekends ago at it. And so he's he's been holding out for that.
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And then my daughter she was waiting for, for a, uh, a big buck. And, uh, just so happened the piebald
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doe didn't show out to show up, but the big buck did. And, uh, it was quite the experience. So that
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was all on Saturday evening. So first archery kill Lincoln and Lindsey, and then, uh, Kenley with
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her, her big one that she harvested. So we had a unbelievable Saturday evening and, uh, something
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we're going to remember for the rest of our lives, man. And I saw a picture of that buck. What a
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fantastic looking animal that is. I mean, there's only so many young kids that'll ever get a shot
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to even, uh, set up and and have a look at that thing through binoculars, let alone actually get
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to take a shot at it. So, uh. Fantastic job there is, dad. Uh, bringing her along and, uh, and getting a
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shot at that because it's a lot like you say, um, you're kind of hunting vicariously through your
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kids now. My dad has always been the guy that taught me. Of course, my uncles were very
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instrumental in that as well. Just like yours were. Yeah. Um, but my dad, ever since I can remember. And
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he doesn't owe me this at all. At 42 years old, which I am now, Clay. But he's always been. Ever
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since I started packing a weapon out there. Out there to get me a chance first. And it's only
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on the times when we haven't been together. And he spotted something that he'll shoot first. He
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always wants me to get that opportunity first. And, um, I think that that just kind of illustrates a
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little bit of how good it can feel when your kids are the ones that can go out there and be
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successful. Because just like my dad, you know what it takes to go out there, All these years later,
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you've been beat. You've been beaten down probably a few times. You felt like, man, am I ever going to
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have another shot at this. So when your kids get a shot at it, it's like a double win for you, isn't
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it? No doubt. No, absolutely. And I the same with my dad. My dad actually when I got into it, he got
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into it. Right. And so he's been a, uh, diehard, um, you know, Hunter ever since I
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started hunting. And so that, uh, and that that was, you know, me and me and dad have had a ton of good
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experiences over the years, and he's the same way, uh, you know, he's just put me in in position to, uh,
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you know, whether it's through friends and finding property to hunt and things of that nature and
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getting me my first climber and just, you know, all the archery equipment and hunting equipment. I
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mean, it's expensive. It's not a it's not a cheap thing, you know, to do. Um, but I can't think of a
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better pastime. And, you know, as a kid, you know, reflecting back, I look back and think about how
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much time I spent. You know, um, on the water and in the woods and, you know, it's just another avenue
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to keep you out of trouble, keep you focused. Things of that nature. And so same with my kids,
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you know, and that's, um. I'm so thankful that all of them, uh, enjoy it so much because, like I said,
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every opportunity that we have, which is limited, um, we're out there doing it, and I want them to do
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it the right way, too, you know, because, uh, you want to be ethical about it? Yes. Uh, so they spend a lot
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of time shooting their bows, shooting guns. You know, we go to the range, obviously spend a
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considerable amount of time at our guns. And to make sure that when that opportunity does happen,
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uh, because that's the other part of it, you might get the opportunity, but afterwards, you gotta you
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still gotta find it, you know? And, um, so I was thankful for, for Kenley, you know, we were able to,
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you know, shoot three and we recovered three. And so that's, you know, something I'm proud of, too,
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that all three of them were able to make good ethical, you know, shots. Yeah, it's so important. And
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learning it at such a young age will give them such a respect for the game. And I think that
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that's and when I say the game I don't mean the game of hunting, I mean the wildlife. I think
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that's what's really important is. Yeah. Um, you know, when, when my wife first came out on a hunt
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here, I, it's probably within the last 5 or 6, maybe ten years that she first came out. And she doesn't
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ever pack a, a gun. She just comes out there because she wants to be out in the wilderness. And
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that was one of the biggest things that I wanted to convey to her is, hey, you know, part there's
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parts of this that are, uh, not for the faint of heart, right? What the the taking the shot is the
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easiest part that's going to happen in the next 24 hours. In the case of my dad and I, over these
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last couple of weeks, you know, we've got two multiple hundred pound cow elk that we've got to
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process now. We've got to field dress those. We've got to skin them. We've got to get them to the
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butcher. It's hard work in developing that respect at a young age. I think is really important for
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kids because that's what they pass down when they have kids. Is that respect and and that,
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um, I guess those those ethics that you teach them. Clay, it's just so important I. Every animal I've
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ever, I've ever taken down, I always go over and just have a quick moment with it to say thank you.
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And I know some people think that that's stupid, or some people think that that's, uh, overkill or
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being dramatic. But for me, it helps me remember that this thing has beaten me. I mean, I've been
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hunting elk for 30 plus years. I now have three of them on the ground, and one of them is a cow. And
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that was because we had a damage tag and we needed meat in the fridge. So my my batting
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average with elk is way below the Mendoza Line. I'm getting cut from every triple A team if
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you're looking at that success rate. And so to me, that's always been something that's so important,
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and especially with the youth and my my nephews are hunting now, and it's their conversations that
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we have out there in the woods that are, I think, really valuable and on more stages than just
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hunting. These are lessons that they will learn about life in general. That will help as as time
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goes on. Yeah. No question. I think, uh, you know, there's a right and a wrong way to do everything.
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And it's been important to me to, you know, pass that on the kids. And again, it's, um, you know, even
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when you don't, you're out there more often than not, not harvesting something. Right? It's all those
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times that build up to make that that much more exciting. But, you know, just getting out there, you
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know, it's it's our retreat to get away from the everyday grind. You know, that we're in that I
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can't tell you how many times you know that I've been in a tree stand with my kids or whatever, and
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I'm taking a safety call, you know, or, you know, working from the stand, you know, um, because there
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is no downtime. And what I do personally, you know, you never know when I'm going to need to take a
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phone call or an important phone call. So anyways, uh, the kids, uh, really enjoy it. And, uh, again,
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that's my favorite time is my time in the outdoors with them and just being able to get out
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of the city. You know, we live in, you know, basically downtown Jacksonville. So, you know, any
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chance we get to to get away it's a it's a good time for sure. For sure. Now I know that there's
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been some there's some people listening to this right now that are like, hey, get back to that
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piebald story. I've never heard that word before. I want to know what the heck you guys are talking
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about. And, uh, this connection that Clay and I had here on completely opposite sides of the United
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States is really quite astounding when you really break it down and think about it. So first and
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foremost, what a piebald animal is. You're going to see this, uh, genetic mutation in some ungulates
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like deer and elk. And if you've ever seen an Appaloosa horse or you might know that horse as a
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paint horse, um, that's kind of what it looks like. It looks like somebody threw a bucket of white
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paint just kind of haphazardly on the animal, and it is a pretty rare genetic mutation now. I'll be
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honest with you. I didn't look up the, uh, the numbers for deer clay, but my cousin is a wildlife
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biologist up in Washington state, and he got in touch with us now. My dad killed a piebald
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cow just a couple of weeks ago on a Saturday. We got in touch with my cousin, and he told us that
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one in every 250,000 head of elk will show that genetic mutation. I
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can't imagine it's any more or any less rare for deer. It's probably somewhere right in the same
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wheelhouse there. But Clay and I, my dad shot this cow, uh, on the same
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Saturday that you guys first saw that piebald doe walk in that your son wanted so bad. And you
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want to talk about a lottery ticket day? I was so excited. You know, Matt Penland and Thad Penland
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both told me before I went on my hunt. Hey, we want a rundown of that hunt after you get it. And I was
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given Matt the rundown, and he. He starts laughing and I said, what's so funny? He says, I don't want
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to one up you, man, but I gotta show you this picture Clay sent me, and he shows me the picture
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of the piebald doe that you guys got, which, I mean, you guys were right on top of it. You could have
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reached out and grabbed that thing. From what I understand, you couldn't even draw a bow. Yeah.
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Unbelievable. It came up on the right side of the stand. I'm like you. It's like, is this really
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happening? And so I'm like you, Marcus. I guess we're the same age. But I've been hunting over 30
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years now, and, uh, in my 30 years of hunting, I've seen three, right. Three
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Bibles, which is, which is crazy in itself, but two from the same property. So I'm sure some of that's
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genetic from from where we're at. Um, but yeah, it it caught me off guard because we had
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deer in front of us, and I had Kenley and, uh, and Lincoln in the stand with me and we're
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in a, you know, double stand. Three of us, you know, packed in there. And Lincoln had his bow. Kinley
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had her crossbow. And unfortunately, it came up on the right side. Um, and we had some other deer in
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front of us, so we really couldn't move, and Lincoln couldn't get up. You know, the turn. And it
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was weird. The other deer were, like, freaked out by this deer. I don't know if it was because it was
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piebald or not, but anyways, those other deer watching the piebald deer and you know, they
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spooked and then it, you know, that ended up taking off at it. It was right there within range
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archery range. Uh, for probably five minutes. You know which. Wow. Made me sick. You know, we had that
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opportunity and probably never going to get an opportunity again, you know? Yeah. That's why it's a
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real buy a lottery ticket day. Uh, you were in Georgia. I was out in northeast Oregon. Uh, and we
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were both having the same experience. Now, I will say, I think that we got, uh, you know, we had the
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luck of actually getting to take a shot at that. And my dad in his, in his age, I'll say this about
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him. That guy doesn't miss with that 300 Winchester Magnum that he packs. And he certainly
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didn't miss this one. Um, but, you know, he's been hunting 50 plus years and has never once
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seen one in the wild. I've been hunting for 30 plus years. I've never seen one in the wild. Uh, for
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the fact for it to happen to us on the same day. And then we get to come on this podcast and talk
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about it really feels like we both should have bought a Powerball ticket, huh? No doubt, no doubt. I
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agree it was a cool experience. I really wish, uh, we could have, uh, could have got it. But, uh, kudos
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to you guys for making it happen and then bringing it home with you. Well, I'll tell you this,
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uh, we could have sneezed and farted and and gotten sick to our stomach at 350 yards. She
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probably wouldn't have noticed us. So that's the one advantage that we have out there with the the
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rifle. You know, uh, and this is cool, too. We we never get to hunt elk in the rut over here and in
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the rut. For those of you that are listening, that aren't hunters is just that's when they're
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breeding. And that is when, uh, elk and deer during that time of the year, the the bulls and the bucks,
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they don't care about anything else. You could walk right up to them. They don't care. They're
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looking for a fight and they're looking for something else. And I don't have to be descriptive
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with you on that. You know what it is? Um, this is actually the first time because I had this damage
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tag. It was a cow tag. It's designed to try to haze the elk off of the farmer's property because, uh,
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in the the situation, we were in clay, there's 700 acres of alfalfa, and they've got a bunch of head
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of cattle that they're trying to get back into this field to finish them so they can go to the
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butcher towards the end of the year. Um, and there's a herd of 200 elk out there eating all of
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this very valuable alfalfa. So the hunters would be happy if we drove through the field in an F150
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and hit as many of them as we could. Uh, but we're only able to take one. And, uh, it was really cool
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because we get out there before dark. We're sitting there looking at all 700 acres. You can't
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see anything, but you roll the windows down. And it was just bugle after bugle after bugle
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and cow calls chirping at each other. And as the light starts to come up, you start to see these
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bulls and they're chasing cows all over. And when I say cows, I'm talking cow elk here. Just so
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nobody gets confused. They're chasing these cows all over. They're out there playing around and, uh,
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you know, it's it's a distracting time of the year for them. And I've never gotten to see that before.
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Uh, you know, first hand, because that's archery season. You guys have to get close to them to be
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able to take down an elk with a bow and arrow is a pretty big feat. It's a big animal. Um, have you
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ever gotten to go out and hunt elk with your bow before and get as close to some elk as you were
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those deer over that weekend? Clay. Yeah. So, um, funny thing is, I was, uh, when I came out
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of college, so, again, I was a football player. I, I got cut from the the Bengals, um, finished at
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Georgetown College. So that was another whole thing. You know, where I went to school at, uh, in
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Georgetown. I spent four years and had phenomenal property all around me, right close to campus.
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So, you know, I, I did a lot of hunting through through college to well, I was introduced to a, to
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a gentleman who asked me if I wanted to, uh, come out and be a hunting guide, uh, and just northeast
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of Steamboat Springs, Colorado. And so I ended up pursuing an opportunity professionally. Uh,
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football wise. Well, I got cut from the Bengals, and then I got picked up by the Orlando Predators,
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which is when arena one was was good. Well, arena one folded. So that was 2008. And um, so
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then I was kind of left out in limbo, like my whole plan, you know, when you're young and you're,
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you know, 21, 22 years old, you're thinking, oh, I'm going to go play professionally. Well, then, when it
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doesn't plan out, I wasn't really prepared, uh, to put my college degree to use, you know?
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And so I had this opportunity, uh, with no responsibility to go out to Colorado and be a
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hunting guide. And so I wasn't able to be the hunter, but I was able to guide. So I learned a lot,
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um, you know, with was guiding people, uh, on the mountain that we were on, I mean, horseback and all,
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you know, we take them out. Um, you know, I was really good at Turkey. Call them at the time. So,
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you know, learning how to, you know, uh, call elk was not difficult for me. Um, and
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so, but that elevation and just the work amount of work, I was in the best shape of my life. Uh, but
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I'll tell you what. You know, we were up at 3 a.m. every morning, and we were the last ones to go to
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bed. Sometimes we never went to sleep. It just depends on, you know, what we harvested that day?
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When I say all that to say this, I had a ton of experiences through other people. Archery season,
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gun season. But yeah, I'd call them in and, uh, you know, people from all over the country would come
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in and, you know, it was my job to give them a good experience. And then I made my money through tips.
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That's so cool, man. What a what an awesome job. And what a great experience. Uh, I imagine the first
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time you ever bugle the big bull in for somebody to get a crack at that was pretty exhilarating,
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because they will walk right up to you, uh, during the rut, when they're when they're hearing other
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bugles, they're looking for a fight. So, uh, do you remember that first time you ever got one to come
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in close? Oh, yeah. Yeah. No doubt. Um, we were, um, it was a big six by six, you know, that's how
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you you you judge bulls, you know, depending on how many points on each side. So for those of you that
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don't know, but, you know, big old bull came in, uh, they were coming out of the meadows, so they were
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going up to the dark timber. So, like you said, the sun's coming up. You know, they're going to start
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working their way up into the dark timber. So we got ourselves in position, ended up calling a big
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bull in. And, uh, the guy was able to make a good shot on that. And that was the first experience I
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had. And it was a big six by six. And, you know, I think it was, you know, 320 something like that
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score. And, uh, a pretty cool experience. And of course, I had to act like I've been guiding my
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whole life, you know? So, uh, so I played the part pretty good, but it it came natural to
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me, and, um, and so anyways, we ended up having to pack it out, and we, uh, we had a great,
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I mean, a great season. You know, we we harvested a lot of elk. A lot of people get experience and
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then get people out there that had no clue what they were doing. And that was, you know, a whole
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nother ball game. But, uh, it was a good experience for sure. And, um, I did it for one season and
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then, um, then it was time to get my life in order. Yeah, I hear you. And you might think you're in
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shape. You might think you're ready for the for the challenge. Until somebody straps an elk hind
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quarter on your back. Right. Clay. That's a that's a different experience. If you've spent your life
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packing deer out of the woods, and all of a sudden somebody hands you one quarter of an animal that
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weighs as much as a deer. Uh, it can be a grueling experience, especially if you got to pack them out
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of some of the hell holes that elk can work their way into, man. And I'm sure you got plenty of
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experience up there in the mountains in Colorado with that. Yeah, there's not enough time in the day
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or this podcast to explain all the experiences and stories I had from that one year. So it was, uh,
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it was crazy to say the least. I wonder, uh, Clay, you know, I've I've been very fortunate in my life.
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I spent, um, 30 years applying for an antelope tag over here in Oregon and finally got one a couple
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of years ago, uh, went out for five days to hunt out in the kind of central Oregon where the Great
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Basin range comes up into the state of Oregon. Um, spent five days, didn't see a single bit of
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fur. And finally, on the last day, we had a farmer agree to let us go into his alfalfa field, and I
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was able to tag an antelope. And that up to that point was sort of my white whale when it came to
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hunting. Because at 20 something, you're just applying for this tag and you're not thinking
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about it when you hit 40 and you still haven't drawn the tag yet, you start to wonder if it's
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ever going to happen. And it finally did. And I, I looked at that as sort of my white whale. And now
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that I've accomplished that one, I've got a different white whale, which I'll tell you about.
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But I wonder, as a 30 year experienced hunter with guide experience, you've you've been, you know,
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around the country, hunted a bunch of different stuff. What do you think the white whale is for
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you? Clay? What do you really want? One crack at, uh, before the knees. Don't let you get out there in
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the bush anymore. Man. That's a that's a tough question. I got a lot of, uh,
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things that I still want to pursue, but, um, uh, a guy that I work with, uh, John Denver, a huge
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outdoorsman. Um, he's been asking me to go on this, uh, Canadian trip. Um, you know, moose, elk.
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Uh, they they they harvest big whitetail up there, too. But, um, I missed another opportunity this year.
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He begged me to go, and, uh, you know, I passed on to just me and my. My schedule's so busy, you know, and
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it's tough to get away from the family, and I'm. I'm going to wait till my kids are old enough or,
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you know, to where I can take them on on that trip. Um, but, uh, probably, probably that moose hunt. You
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know, I would really like to, to take advantage of that. It's sitting in my lap and I just hasn't,
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haven't been able to to do it yet. So, uh, you're, you're equal parts excited and nervous about that
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moose hindquarters that might get put on your back. Because we talk about how big elk are, man,
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you could fit three elk inside of a good sized moose. Right. That's right. Yep. Yep. The biggest deer
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in, uh, in the world right there is the main battle. I think that'd be a good experience. Never had the
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opportunity to go up and hunt Canada. But, you know, I've had some incredible experiences with the
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penguins, too. Man, you know I can't leave them out. They've. You know, I've been out there on the North
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Platte. Uh, Matt Penland and and Aaron, uh, Penland. You know, they played for the Nebraska Cornhuskers.
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Well, they fell into some incredible property well before I was even married to Lindsay. Um, and we
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were dating, you know, my brother in law, David Penland, the third. We played football together. Uh,
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they invited me out on a, uh, epic waterfowl trip out there on the North Platte. And, uh,
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I'll tell you what, I, I've done a lot of waterfowl hunting, and I've never experienced anything like
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this. It was absolutely insane. And those were some of the best trips I'd been on. Uh, but,
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uh, again, you know, I've, I've had some really, really good hunting trips with with the penguins,
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too, and, uh, the rabid out outdoorsman as well. Yeah. You know, I got to talking to Matt a little bit
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about waterfowl. Uh, I hunted a lot of ducks and geese as a kid. Uh, back home in enterprise, uh,
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Oregon, up in the mountains. It's kind of right on the migratory path for Canadian geese and
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mallards and all sorts of other ducks out there. And, uh, you know, earlier we talked a little bit
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about, uh, being a dad and kind of having that instinct where it's the kids are going to shoot
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first. We're going to get we're going to get the kids the opportunities. And of course, I had my
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uncles that were, uh, pretty instrumental in my hunting upbringing. And, uh, you know, by the time I
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was 15 or 16, Clay, I had killed so many Canadian geese that I had lost count. I had
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one mounted on the wall, the first one I ever took down. I mean, this was a weekly thing for my dad
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and I in the winter to go out and each get a limit on geese by like 9:00 in the morning.
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Sometimes it was second nature to me. Well, my my dad's youngest brother, uh, lives
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in Maui, and so obviously he doesn't get a crack at any Canadian geese where he's at. And, uh, you
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know, he came out hunting with us this one year and we had not seen any geese. And he was really
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adamant, I want to get a goose on this trip. And I didn't know. But he had never shot a goose before
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year's worth of hunting and had never gotten a crack at a Canadian goose. Probably taken down
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thousands of ducks at this point in time in his life. And he's out here with me and my dad, and
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there's this one lone Canadian goose, and it must have been flying up at about 30,000ft. And we're
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standing around this pond, uh, we're under trees. And so we had a really good blind. We got our
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little heater out there. Just kind of a boring day. Not a lot happening. And my dad starts barking at
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this goose with his goose call, and it starts circling above this pond. And, I mean, it takes like,
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15 minutes to lose altitude and it's finally coming down. And I'm just instinctual when I'm out
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on a hunt, especially as many geese as I had under my belt at that point, I just instinctively or
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instinctually reached over to grab my shotgun, and all of a sudden, out of nowhere, somebody grabbed
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my wrist and it was my uncle. And he in no uncertain terms, I he said some words I won't say
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on this podcast, but he told me, do not touch that gun. And that goose finally came all the way down,
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and he went out there and got it. And that was the first one. And it's the only time I've ever had an
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uncle or a dad. Tell me. Not only do you not shoot first, you don't even get to touch your gun. I'm
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gonna go through all the lead in my pocket until that thing's on the ground. So, yeah, uh, waterfowl
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hunting is just such a different animal. But it is so much fun, and it's, um. You got to be patient
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sometimes. But there's also times, Clay, when, you know, I've. I've gone out at dark and we've laid on
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the bend in the, in the creek where we know they're going to be, and we can hear them, but we
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can't see him. And then when the sun comes up and you sit up, the sky turns black with the amount of
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birds that are there. And I'm sure that's a lot like what you got to experience out there in
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Nebraska with the Penguins. Yeah, it was insane. I'm telling you, I've never experienced anything like
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that to come. You know, from what I come from, you know, we're not in a natural flyway. And, uh, it's
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just it was crazy that they called. They start tornado, and it's just it's overwhelming how many
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birds there are, uh, mallards, you know, and and of course, we we killed some geese, too, but, um, it that
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was another epic experience. And, you know, these aren't hunts that I go on that we were paying for.
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And I mean, these are, you know, finding private land and, you know, you're doing the hunts yourself.
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There's there's people that pay for these big hunts and they go on it and, you know, they they
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guide you and, you know, set up for you. Pretty much all the hunting we've ever done has just been, you
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know, finding the property, doing it ourselves, cradle to grave. And to me, that's really the
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experience. You know, doing it yourself. And, uh, you know, again, just going back to the kids and
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teaching them how to do everything. Cradle to grave, you know, you're you're going out. There's a
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lot of preseason preparation. You're putting checking on stands, you know, uh, doing food plots
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here, you know, um, filling theaters. You know, whatever the case, there's a lot of groundwork
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that is laid. And then, you know, once you do, however, something that reward, I think is tenfold
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compared to just showing up at somebody's property and, you know, harvesting something and
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going home, dropping it off of the processor, because we will we'll still use the processor. But
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man, my kids have, uh, have butchered more deer, you know, and packaged them than
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probably most grown adults, you know. Yep, yep. It's something that you just get used to. You know, that
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was my least favorite part of it. As a kid, I was I kind of had a little bit of a of a light stomach.
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And so some of the stuff that you'll see and have to get your hands in out there was uh, and and
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look, I can make the argument. I still kind of have the light stomach. Like, if dad steps up and says,
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you want me to gut it? Yeah, absolutely. Let me hold a leg here, man. I'm all about that. So. Yeah, I love
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it, man. Well, you know, you kind of walked me to, to the next part of this that I wanted to ask you
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about because you mentioned something earlier in the podcast that is something that's very near
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and dear to me, which is a lot like golf. Hunting can be a very expensive endeavor. And even if
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you're not going on those expensive guided trips where they kind of just take you out there and
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point you in a direction and say, there he is, he's yours if you want him. Um, what type of tech are
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you finding these these days? Is there anything that's got you really excited? Um, I you know, this
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is real simple, but the reason I ask is because for years I looked at a binocular harness and I
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thought, why would I want something on the front of my. Why would I want something right there on
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my chest where, you know I've got to shoot. There's all this stuff. I've already got a backpack on.
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I've got gear. Uh, I bought a binocular harness just to try it out, and I would not trade that
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thing. You would have to pull it from my cold, dead fingers at this point. Clay, it's got my
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rangefinder. It's got my wind. Carter. Right there. You know, my my tag. Um, I can even attach a sidearm
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to it if I want to. Extra rounds, granola bars, you name it. I'm set up now. I feel like my backpack is
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now the obsolete thing in my hunting gear. But is there anything like that that you found recently
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that maybe we could tell the drivers about that you're really excited about? Because as a hunter,
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I'm always looking for the next thing, and I know that most of it's probably too expensive for me.
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But if I can jerry rig something or figure out something that really helps me and advances my
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abilities out there in the wilderness, I'm going to take that opportunity. So what do you liking
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right now out there, man? I know it's a little bit different for you archery hunters. Yeah. Listen, so
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I'd be lying If I could tell you some high tech gadget, uh, to to point you to, um.
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Now you're out west. So rhinos are probably a lot more critical to you, right? You're out. Where? Where
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are you? Out of Marcus. Uh, I was hunting in northeast Oregon, so. Yeah, we're up at elevation
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about 3000 4000ft. And most of the time, you're talking spot and stock, maybe 1000 2000 yards and
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get within, you know, 4 or 500 at the most to get a shot. Well, we were talking about expenses, so I got
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to be real careful where I put my money because I got four kids. Right? So four bows,
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four shotguns. Wow. Four rifles. So my goal over the years, I've been kind of piecing together for each
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one of them. That way when they're out there on their own. Because before when, when they all got
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to a point, we were, hey, one, this gun is for all of you or whatever. So now I've, I've got them set
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up to where they all each have their own stuff. And it's taken a lot of years to get there I say
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a lot of years. But, you know, I tried to get them set up to where they have their own gear and
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everything. So it's binoculars and tech and all that. I'll have to have to wait, you know,
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for us. So, um, because still tree stands and, you know, hunting property and leases and
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things like that, um, it consumes a lot of our financial resources to be able to enjoy
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it, I'm sure. Man. Well, here's here's a piece of advice I'll give you that I learned from my dad.
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And and this you've you've gone out and found private property to hunt on through connections
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and and talking to people. I will tell you right now, I have been blown away by the amount of
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permission we've gotten through. Nothing other than a friendly handshake, a nice conversation, and
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maybe a bottle of whiskey a week later. Um, and and we keep getting the permission to go on these
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places. And it really does come from being a respectful person, just not being afraid to ask.
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Understanding that you're utilizing somebody else's property here. And that could be kind of a
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lift for them in one way, shape or form. But, um, you just never really know with that type of stuff
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until you ask. And I'll tell you a good bottle of Crown Royal, which won't run you 30 bucks, uh, can
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go a long way with some of these landowners out there. They're hard workers, too. Clay. No doubt, no
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doubt. And, you know, going back to that where I was telling you my. So my dad went to school with a
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bunch of the farmers or, you know, around where we grew up at. And so, you know, he he was well
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connected. Uh, when it comes to property and it's coming harder and harder to find those. So, you
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know, now people are leasing out their land to other people, and we're starting to experience
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that. So I think dad's down to his last two properties that he has access to. So he flies down
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from Indiana that he's retired. Um, and he'll come down. And like I said, this past weekend, he was
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along for that trip. And, uh, it was a great memory to have him, you know, be a part of that. But he'll
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still he's going to be planning on going back to Indiana to hunt the rut. So the end of this month,
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he's flying back. He'll hunt through November and then probably be back down. But, um, you know, I
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think dad's 70, 75. Um, so he's got a few more good years left in him, but, uh,
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he's he's in the fourth quarter. Yeah, well, we should all be so lucky to be still hunting and
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and still, you know, uh, getting through at that age, that's kind of where my dad's at to. And I'll tell
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you, uh, he'll beat me up a mountain. No problem with a replaced knee and all of it. So, you know,
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and, uh, let's let's not be, uh, you know, joking around here. Clay, I'm not spending all my free
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time on a treadmill, so, uh, you know, but it's still so much fun, and and, like I said, spending our
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golden years like that. Man, could you imagine anything better? No, I can't, I can't. I'm looking
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forward to. But again, I'm enjoying the stage of, like, all men right now. It's, uh, it's a rat race
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and it's chaotic between professional and personal life. But, uh, you know, again, having
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having four kids that are all immersed in the outdoors, um, you know, I couldn't have been blessed
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with, uh, a better scenario, um, because I can't imagine having a couple that don't like it and a
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couple that do. I'd be I'd be torn there, but, uh, we've been able to, uh, enjoy it as it's been
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enjoyable. Well, Clay, I couldn't imagine being blessed with somebody better to have this
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conversation with today. And I really appreciate your time here and opening up to us, telling us
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how much it means to you that the family is, uh, is involved. And seeing your kids get to, uh, go
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through these things that you remember going through as a kid to congratulations on just an
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epic weekend that you guys had out there. Uh, I think that was last week, you said. Um, yeah, I just
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I can't thank you enough. This has been a lot of fun today. I'll clear some time here for your
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final thoughts. Uh, anything you want. Anything we left on the table, or any message that you might
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want the drivers to to hear, maybe just good luck for those of you that are out there hunting. But
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this episode was sort of meant to kind of show everybody out there that, hey, I've got my years
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under the belt. Clay's got his ears under the belt, and we're happy to have a campfire conversation
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with just about anybody that wants to talk about it. Yeah. No, I, I don't know. My final thoughts are
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it's just, um, for those of you that are out there that have grown up hunting or got up, you know, got
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into it later in life or whatever, you know how enjoyable it is. And, uh, you know, everybody's got
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their retreat and, you know, their way to, to kind of decompress and, you know, whatever that is,
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whether it's hunting, whether it's golf, whether it's fishing, uh, you know, there's number of, of
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avenues to, to decompress, regroup and get that, uh, uh, mental therapy that you need.
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And specifically we're talking trucking, right. It's, uh, it's a grind. And it doesn't matter
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whether you're a driver, whether you're a mechanic, whether you're in safety, whether you're in
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operations. Um, you've got to regroup every now and then. And just for me personally, uh, you know, I, I
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like to spend my time in the woods. Uh, when I get the opportunity. So, uh, I've enjoyed the
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conversation, Mark. Appreciate, uh, the conversation. And, um, you know, for everybody that's out there
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that's hunting this year. Good luck. Good luck. Be safe out there. Uh, remember to respect the game
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and respect the land, uh, because we all want your kids and their kids and everybody else's kids to
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be able to go out there and experience this as well. Clay Hamblen, always a pleasure, my friend.
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We'll get you back in here again soon. Don't work too hard. Uh, in between hunting seasons. Okay, I
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appreciate it. Now I gotta go to, uh, my son's last middle school football game, so we'll finish that
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up tonight. All right. Sounds good. Well, good luck to him, Clay. We'll talk to you again soon. Thanks,
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Marcus. Appreciate it.
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Big thanks to Clay Hamblen for coming on the Cypress Truck Lines podcast with us. He's a very
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busy guy, and he gave us a lot of time today to just sit down and have a real fun and
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insightful chat about why, not necessarily the what. Look, a guy like Clay sitting with a guy like
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me could tell you stories for days about just successful hunts, whether it be deer, elk,
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waterfowl, you name it. Um, we've been doing this for a long time. We have those stories. But today
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was a lot more about the why than it was the what or the how. And I think that with Clay, you know,
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he started hunting with his uncles, he learned archery with a childhood friend and eventually
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shared the experience with his own father. And now he's doing it for his four children. One of the
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things that really stuck with me was listening to Clay talk about how much more exciting hunting
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has become. Now that he's watching his kids do it. Because I realize that's exactly what my dad has
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been doing with me for all of these years, and even well into my 40s. Here we are. It's still the
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same. And maybe that's one of the greatest things about getting older. You get to become the person
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who made those memories possible for you. You know, it's really an extraordinary thing when you think
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about it. At some point, the thrill of personal success becomes secondary to the joy of helping
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someone else experience that personal success. And I think we got a really good picture of that
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today, not only from Clay talking about his experience and his kids, but I kind of
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realized it right here on the air. This is the clay is my dad. Back when I was nine, ten, 11 years
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old, getting through hunter safety, realizing what it actually meant to be out there in the field,
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Fumbling through everything, and somehow the guy's still not so frustrated with me that he he
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wants to leave me at home and go out there on his own. Uh, that's extraordinary when you really think
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about it. And I think it's probably one of the best parts of today's interview, if you really
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want my honest take on it. Clay's family harvested three deer during one extraordinary evening.
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And this this part of it, really, it says to me the the memories outlive the accomplishments. Okay. His
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oldest son got his first with the bow. His wife got to experience a successful hunt with one of
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his other sons, and his daughter harvested a remarkable buck. Now I want to
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imagine what that story is going to turn into 30 years from now, when Clay is the retired guy
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spending his golden years flying back and forth to different hunts all the way across the country
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and watching his kids teach their kids. I suspect he'll remember who was standing next to him more
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vividly than the measurements of any antlers. Someday those kids are going to be grown up.
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They'll have jobs. They'll have families. They'll have responsibilities of their own, just like we
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all do. But I guarantee you that 30 years from now, they'll remember that weekend with their dad. And
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that's a pretty remarkable return on investment of a little time in the woods. When you really
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think about it, something else was the privilege of still being able to go and do this. Um,
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and this one does carry some emotional weight for me and and for clay as well. Uh, Clay mentioned his
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father was around 75. My dad's in that same age group. Um, you know, he's still climbing mountains
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with a replaced knee. We talked about it. There's, I think, subtle awareness in both of our stories,
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um, that these opportunities won't last forever. And it's very important to get out there
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and take advantage of the opportunities when they're still in front of you. I will admit to you
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here on this podcast that I realized that, you know, probably ten years ago is when it really
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started to become real to me. And I don't think that anybody ever wants to admit to themselves
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that it is a very real part of this life that we all live. Um, you know, Clay mentioned his dad's
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getting up there in years, and, and I think about how lucky I am that I can still head into the
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mountains with my dad. Um, I don't know how many more hunting seasons we'll get together. You never
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really do. But I know I'm going to appreciate every single one of them. And hearing Clay talk
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about the appreciation for the moments that he just had with his kids and sort of being on the
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outset of that and, and building those memories upon one another. Um, that's what it's really all
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about, man. That's why we do this. And if you don't hunt, there's something else in your life that
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replaces these feelings. Like I said earlier, it could be a racetrack. It could be a football field,
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could be the deep blue ocean. Whatever you're doing with your kids, whatever traditions you're
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passing down to them, whatever lessons they're going to learn through those traditions won't
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last forever. And so it's important to take every opportunity that you've got and make it happen.
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And that's what good fathers do. That's what Clay's doing. That's what my dad did and has still
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done over all these years. And that's what you guys out there listening as fathers and mothers
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and sons and daughters, yourselves, uncles, aunts. That's what you all do, too. You might
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not take a minute to actually realize that that's what's going on, but that is exactly what's going
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on. And I also want everybody to remember that success is not always tied to what you bring
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home. Um, you know, something Clay said towards the end really resonated with me. Everybody needs
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something that lets them disconnect from the grind. For us, that can be hunting for sure, but it
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doesn't have to be that. Whatever your thing is, whatever thing gets you away from the stress and
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makes you feel like yourself again, make time for it. Because that's not wasted time. That's time
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very well spent. And if you do make that time for those things that take you away from that daily
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grind and make you feel true to yourself, that's when you're going to find that time to pass those
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traditions on to the people you love, like we just talked about. And finally, I think the last thing I
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want to draw attention to here is, is that respect is really the legacy. Uh, we spent some meaningful
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time discussing ethical hunting, properly, preparing for a shot, recovering an animal,
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processing the meat, and teaching younger hunters to respect the wildlife. When Klay talks about
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teaching his kids the right way to hunt, he's talking about a lot more than teaching them how
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to shoot. He's talking about patience, responsibility, respect, preparation, and what it
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means to finish something that you started. And those lessons do not just stay in the woods. Those
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are things his kids can carry with them anywhere that they go. So really important stuff here, I
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think from a zoomed out perspective. Yeah, we came in here talking about hunting today, but as is
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with every single hunt, it's about so much more than that moment that you step out of the truck.
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Now, that happens to be one of my favorite moments. If if my favorite moment is hugging my dad
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moments after a shot rings out, my second favorite moment is that first step out of the truck. You
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get the gloves on, you get the the headgear on whether you gotta go full on beanie or balaclava
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or maybe you got warm enough weather, you just have to wear a hat, but you're getting it on.
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You're getting the coat, the bag, the harness, all of that. The gun. Make sure it's on safety. Make
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sure we've got some, uh, some shells in the magazine. Make sure everything's where it should
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be. You got your scope coat. It might rain later. These are the things that I really love, the
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preparation and what goes into it. Because without all of those things, you're not set up for success.
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And if you don't take every single opportunity to set yourself up for success, when you're going off
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to hunt wild animals in the wilderness, you're probably not going to be successful. So all of
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this kind of comes full circle and lets us know that it's not just about what's hanging on the
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wall. It's not just about the meat and the freezer. It's about so much more than that. The memories,
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the lessons, the traditions, they all last and they all mean so much to all of us. So I just want to
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thank Clay again for such an awesome conversation today, and open this up to some of the rest of you
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guys out there. We know that there's a lot of hunters listening to this right now. We know that
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after listening to this, you might want to come on and talk about what it means to you and what your
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why is and what your white whale out there in the woods is. You know, I never even mentioned that now
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that I took down one of my white whales a couple of years ago, this antelope that I told you guys
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I'd waited 30 years for that tag. Almost. Uh, now, I might have to wait 30 years for another one, but
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I'm looking for a bighorn sheep or a mountain goat. Something that we give very few tags for
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over here because, well, there's not a lot of those animals, and there's even less people that are
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willing to go into the environments that they exist in and try to chase them down. So there you
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have it. I'll leave you with that. My white whale is a bighorn sheep and a full colonel, let me tell
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you. Or one of those white snow white mountain goats that hangs out in the alpine wilderness
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would love to even get to see some of those in the wild, even if I'm not carrying a gun in a tag.
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Um, but this whole this whole episode is meant a lot to me, and I really appreciate you guys for
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coming along. If you want to be on our next hunting episode, all you got to do is go over to,
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uh, podcast.cypresstruck.com and send me an email. I'll put your name on the list. I will reach out
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to you the next time we do this. And hey, we can do as many follow ups to this one as you want,
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because we know that the there's plenty of people at Cypress that are really excited about the hunt,
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and there's a lot more behind it than just walking out there and pulling the trigger or, or
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releasing the catch on your bow. So get in touch with us. Let us know if you want to take part in
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the next one. That's going to put the brakes on today's episode. Thanks again to Clay Hamblen for
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joining me today. We'll be back next week, Wednesday 5 a.m. local time, with another hour of
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content from you, for you and from you. From me as well. Uh, we're all confused here. It's the Cypress
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Truck Lines podcast. Be safe out there, drivers. We'll see you next week.